That'll be why he's such a miserable git most of the time

Love him though. RTT remains my favourite companion mod even after all this time

Phoshi
In the Battered Dragon Inn, there was a scripted sequence that delays Ruin's entering. It happens just once, and once when leaving ().

artfact
About 50% of Ruin's dialogue is fully processed, while 66% is voiced (that is to say, not all of performed voice-acting is yet cut into lines and lip-sync'ed). I don't know whether other characters will be voiced, maybe Twilight (ask Simyaz on that).

wrinklyninja
RTT changes weather two, maybe three times. If Enhanced Weather is created in such a way that no other mod can use forceweather command, is that fair?

_Bonk_
It rains around Ruin just once, and only if you spoil his mood. (Other case of weather control was for immersion)

(edit: spelling)

Honestly, I have yet to see a problem with Ruin's special weather powers.

Anyway, he seems to be getting better at following me, but he'll still often wait outside, which is quite odd.

I'm getting a consistent crash upon I can togglescripts before this point and the crash will not occur, but as soon as I toggle them back on after the game will immediately crash.

Placement in the load order doesn't seem to matter. I'm fully patched (both Oblivion and RTT) and have not had any other issues (other than the horse crashing that seemed to mysteriously go away on it's own).

Also this is a very fresh install of oblivion so I know there are no corrupted files or anything like that. The files int he data folder are all hand-picked from the mods I'm running so it's a (relatively) stable install.



Any ideas? For now I'll shelve this character until I can get past this point, I really want to see the rest of the storyline!



EDIT - I fixed it, turns out it was a conflict between RTT and kuertee's "Horse speed Equals Player Speed".

It's been dealt with, I've finished the quest, and I'm just about on the brink of tears.

Thank you Simyaz for an awesome mod, with an amazing and heartfelt story. I can't wait to play through Tears of the Fiend and Malevolent now.

I don't know what else to say... I think I'll just go to bed now...

(Yes, this was my first time ever finishing RTT...)

oh! doh!
sorry, darkdragon.
RTT is one of the quest mods in my list of things to try.
i'll need to find out why these mod conflict and try to find a solution.
not sure when i'll get to this, however.

Kuertee,

Use Tes4Edit to look for the mod conflicts, it might be very easy to fix if you know where the conflicts are.

OT: Progress at 50%, this gives me time to complete Tears of the Fiend before i play with Ruin again
Keep up the good work!

I think it has something to do with the scripts at that point disabling and/or moving a horse the player is given. Not 100% sure about this, but just a guess.

Help please.

The following is from a topic I started:


I have two of the WTF signs on either side of the door, so I'm guessing that some signs are missing or something. FormID says they're from Oblivion.esm, and WryeBash's Bain is not picking up on a bad install of RTT. Any suggestions?

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Any help would be much appreciated!
- Tomlong75210


Edit: Here's a screen shot: http://www.flickr.com/photos/26280669@N03/3568155010/

To the above poster:

If the items are from Oblivion.esm, and are missing meshes, then a mod you have must be changing their default mesh, into something that it can't find (either due to an incorrect mod install or due to deleting the mesh).

RTT does not change any default oblivion item's meshes, so it shouldn't be causing those issues.

AFAIK it doesn't add any items in those locations either.

Not sure if i said it before, but its clear you didnt read the Better Cities ReadMe and or Threads.

You're load order could use some BOSSing, since Better Cities (just an example) needs to be loaded right before the bashed patch.
It will give you missing meshes and problems, like floating stairs for example, if you dont do that.

Finish your load order using BOSS and make sure Better Cities is the last one loaded before the bashed Patch.
Afterwards, rebuild your Bashed Patch (dont forget that in order to fix potential problems)

I've decided what to do with the EW - RTT patch. What I'll do is add a 'disable' variable to the weather script, which will prevent it from running when true, and then I'll write a script to make disable true whenever RTT is at the quest stages where the weather changes. This'll work fine for EW, since it means I don't have to keep altering the patch to keep it up to date like I did with the Gates To Aesgaard 2 patch, and it also shouldn't mess anything up since I think about 1/3 of the time the script doesn't actually do any weather changing anyway, just lets vanilla do it's thing.

AN is a different kettle of fish though, what with it needing complete control of the weather all the time. But I'll try to get something that works in.

can't because that mod (and most of my mods) don't even have an Oblivion.esm dependency. B)

very likely. i picked that method from MD's Saddlebag 3.0. though he uses it to refresh the accessories on the horse, i use to instantly dismount the player so that they don't get stuck mid-animation when combat starts.

i'll need to actually play RTT to see what can be done. (again, not sure when this will happen.)

thanks, lorddammus and dark dragon.

ooh, I say you should play it now

It's a great mod

I have run my load order through BOSS. All of the plugins between BC IC and the bashed patch are self-made patches tailored to my load list. I've removed all conflicts with BC IC that I'm aware of (there is no red when running TES4View.) I've read the BC readme many times. The only reason BC IC loads last is because it needs the IC to be in TamrielWorld2, and that's why I have the patch "Last - Cells" at the very end of my load list.

@DarkDragon: I'll try to chase down the formID then.


Thanks for the replies!
- Tomlong75210

yeah i really should.
its always been touted as the best character-driven mod available for oblivion.
downloading now...need break from debugging.

The missing meshes are the two signs add by RTT, and I found no mods modifying them. I'm going to try redownloading RTT and hope that the problem will be fixed.

UPDATE: It looks like when I switched from OBMM to OBMM and BAIN, I forgot to redownload or convert RTT 3.0. The only thing I had in the Bash Installers folder was the 3.1 update.

I've got a problem, not in this mod but in the equally fantastic Tears of the Fiend. Since I couldn't find that thread, I figured I'd use this one. Love 'em both, gush-gush-gush. In the Redemption part of TotF, when I rest and go back to the abyss for a second time and am confronted with a familiar face, all he'll say to me is "Blow away windbag!" and that-is-that. I am assuming that this is the "no greeting" bug that I have heard about. What is the code for the conversation that I need to add for this character?

And since I'm still pretty inexperienced with the console, I select the target, then hit ~ "addtopic XXXXXXX" where XXXXXXX equal the conversation code that I am finishing for except the first two numbers are replaced with the hexadecimal number that corresponds to where TotF is in the load order, correct?

I love RTT, and everything has worked perfectly so far in the quest. After I exit the ShadowSeeker headquarters in Cheydinhal, the ShadowSeeker party is standing around outside while their horses walk around aimlessly. None of the party ever mounts their horse, thus the quest will not continue

Is there any sort of basic level recommendation at which to begin this mod? Or a general range? I don't want to start it at level 5 if I'm going to be fending off the menagerie of enemies Ruin likely has.

You can start the quest by taking Ruin as a companion early on. In fact, he's a good companion for a starting character. Ruin will warn you when he thinks things are about to get dangerous....and he's not kidding. Some of the combats are pretty tough, especially near the end of the mod. The whole story takes awhile to unfold, so you'll be playing it through many levels.

I bypassed the problem I reported above by using the "TCL" command on the entire Shadowseeker party and their horses, which enabled them to properly path through Cheydinhal and out the proper door into the wilderness. They took a long circuitous route to the Imperial City, though, through tons of nasty FCOM spawns. I should have taken some screenshots of the enormous train of Savage Trolls, Marauders, Frost Giants, and wolves that were chasing us along the road...heh. By the time we reached the Imperial City, only Twilight was left, on foot, since he had lost his horse to a Frost Giant somewhere in the Jeralls. What an adventure... I think a combination of Better Cities and New Roads and Bridges Revised confused Twilight's AI, leading him all over Cyrodiil to get to the Imperial City.

But don't underestimate the ShadowSeekers.

Soo.. i'm having a little problem: when i BAM, CTD even before i get the chance of clicking on the ok button of the message.
I'll be trying to narrow down who exactly is the culprit, it definitely doesn't happen with RTT only loaded so it's a mod conflict, but if anyone can spot any obvious offender, please let me know:

EDIT: It seems there's a little script conflict with Ren's Guard Overhaul, don't know why, don't know how.
Luckily, opening RGO's config and turning off RGO for the test fixed it.

Hi, due to the guide/walkthrough not being able to open on my computer for some reason i was hoping someone could prod me in the right direction.

I have the assassins letter (the one who poisons you) and am trying to decode it. Any hints or tips please?

Thanks

hint:



Answer (no challenge):

I am getting the boom boom shake whenever I mount we mount our horses. This is what is called a script effect sound I think. I use a script effect silencer but it doesn't stop the sound. Every once in a while it causes my game to crash. Has anyone found a fix for this yet?

There is suppose to be an effect when you mount a horse while Ruin is following you. It'll blur the screen and make a lightning sound effect.

If you're getting something different try loading RTT further down in your load order.