When Bethesda can actually make a game that isn't prone to crashes, glitches, and freezing, then I would say No. I want to save when I want when I want.

As I said in the last 3 threads we had on this topic the last 2 days, if you don't have any self control, that speakes of you not of us. If you want this, then go play
Diablo II. I actually hate what they did in Diablo II. I play for 4 hours, then have to leave and then quit. Then I have to restart all over again, not my way of having fun.
While some games it might be ok to have, like Diablo series, not in a TES game.

Also, it is already in every TES game. It is called self controll and setting limits on yourself. If you can't do it, then you are cheating yourself. What is next? You
need help going to the bathroom?

I find it funny how nearly 90% of the people that voted "don't have a clue as to what they want" and are blinded by their "conservative bias."

Don't think you will always be able to differentiate between fun and annoyance so easily. Things won't always be so black and white.

Remember cliff racers?

So do I, my friend. So do I...

not to mention a bit depressing at times

Sometimes it is fun to quicksave just before you try and steal a shiny sword from a shop, then get caught by the guards without enough money to pay the fine, then end up going on a huge rampage throughout the town, killing everything in your path, only to reload and undo all the carnage you did a few moments ago.

But does anyone else ever get annoyed by this save "cheat", where you simply save before trying something or making a decision and then reload over and over again, "testing" all the potential outcomes? My problem with this is that it is quite unrealistic in a sense that it robs your decisions of some of their finality and consequences, unlike in the real world where time is linear and irreversible. That is why I think some of us may like to see a limited save system in order to prevent such abuse of the quicksave function. What do you guys think?

Yes, I realize that you can always mod something like this in easily, but that isn't the point. The point is to have a system implemented across the entire board for every Skyrim player, thus giving everyone an equal formula by which to judge each other's characters, achievements, and letting everyone know that whoever played Skyrim made decisive actions rather than "testing" every path their character could have taken.


Basically it's this:

"I've just joined the Dark Brotherhood and I'm carefully sneaking behind this man, about to assassinate him, knowing that whatever happens is final and absolute. This is it - there is no turning back now."

VS

"Well I'll just stroll up to this guy and stab a couple times, see what happens. If it doesn't go my way, not a big deal, I'll just reload"

What do you think is more thrilling?

Some people are abusing the difficulty options by setting it to Easy, so it should be taken out too!

But creating a more dramatic consequence will force people to think harder about how to approach and deal with such problems, leaving them with a greater sense of satisfaction in the end. But gods forbid anyone ever having to actually think while playing a game, eh?

Anyway, by having limited saves I don't mean for people to do the same tedious things over and over again. I don't know why anyone would do that, unless they are so imperceptive to the degree that they are unable to anticipate or recognize an impending problem, maybe even after having encountered it once before. Save smartly with limited saves and this won't be a concern

I'm not being selfish. There is a high chance that many people here will be radically opposed to this simply because of a previous conservative bias. They may not think this is best, but I am convinced that, given the chance to actually test this, they will understand and enjoy it more. People might think they know what they want, but honestly most of the time they haven't a clue. If we all knew what was truly fun, then we would all be successful game designers ages ago.

Sometimes it is fun to quicksave just before you try and steal a shiny sword from a shop, then get caught by the guards without enough money to pay the fine, then end up going on a huge rampage throughout the town, killing everything in your path, only to reload and undo all the carnage you did a few moments ago.

Don't be insulting, 2+2 does not get harder if my life depended on the the right answer, you would not have to think harder about the solution. It does not take a rocket scientist to figure out that not dying is generally the right thing to do. Whether I die and can apply the solution instantly by reloading, or after 15min of redoing stuff, the solution does not change, one is just more annoying than the other.

If saving smartly is gives the same scenario as having unlimited saves, and you can't comprehend why someone would be in a scenario of not saving smartly, then why not just have unlimited saves? Limit yourself with unlimited saves, and you won't have problem, at least not one you wouldn't have created yourself.

As I've previously mentioned, the self control argument doesn't cut it here.

To summarize, yes, you do have the option to limit your own saves whenever you wish, but did you ever have to option to have that option? What if that option degrades my game experience in the first place? What if I don't want that choice? Greater choice = being able to choose whether you want to be able to choose

Hmm, the more i think about it the more i realize i don't like the title, save cheating. How exactly do you save cheat, or cheat at all in a single player game? Who are you cheating exactly? i doubt the game cares that you reloaded or saved two seconds ago. i mean who loses out on save freedom?

I used save "cheating" simply for lack of a better term. But it kind of is cheating in some cases. A cheating of the game itself

What would happen if you completed a long quest and your autosave got corrupted? What then? I'd be pretty upset having to restart.

A minor technical hiccup that could easily be overcome. Create a continuous backup save system which can be restored in case of catastrophic failure