I agree with this point. With the vast open-ended-ness of Skyrim, it would very difficult to make save points available enough that no matter how you play the game, there's going to be a save point close enough that you can save every 20 minutes or so. I could imagine myself playing through and doing total freelance dungeon-crawling and not having save-points close at hand. I definitely think they should keep the 'save whenever you want' style in the game.

This. Choose where you want to save and exact specifications. Like only saving in major cities and friendly settlements, or saving on major roads, or ANYTHING besides forcing this idea on us.

If no one wants save points then why keep the thread continuing?

No. Not now, not ever.

I like a good challenge, but I like immersion more. I want to spend my game time worrying about things like getting attacked by undead and finding new locations. If I'm worrying about things like save points or controls or any other game mechanic, I am no longer in Skyrim. I'm in my room, playing a video game.

It's a fundamentally different thing - XMB is an overlay, it runs as well as skyrim, alt tab is context switching, things run *instead* of skyrim. This means the game doesn't get a say, it's losing focus and the majority of its say in who gets what resources, some games handle this well, and some are oblivion, which don't handle it very well at all.

Firstly, welcome to the forums- have a http://images.uesp.net//c/c4/Fishystick.jpg!

Now, as to your question. See, "logic" around here works differently than in the real world- just like TES games are different from the real world. Around here we get vague information about Skyrim dribbled out in tiny servings, and occupy ourselves between courses by rehashing the same dozen topics over and over and over and over even though we know how they're going to turn out. Printing out every "Should there be guns in TES" thread alone, for example, would use roughly the same amount of paper as is contained in the Library of Congress. And someone will start another topic about it any time now, knowing the answer to the question will be an overwhelming "no."

So...enjoy your stay here in Bedlam!

I never have played RDR. Can you please explain how thier system works please.

So someone wants save points. I said it once, I will say it agian. Do it yourself. If you don't have the will power to do it, you have no one else to blame but yourself. What is next?
People will be askin for guns in Skyrim now. :flamethrower:

I want save points. :wink_smile:

The standard reasons for it not working dont really hold up.

Saying, "just dont save" doesnt really work as an option, because the difficulty spikes tend to be adjusted so that some areas you pretty much need to quicksave.

Equally, the save on quit option takes care of those who want to be able to stop playing at any time.

In terms of location, theres always the GTA option, that would allow you to only save at houses you own, or pubs.

With all that said, it aint gonna happen, simply because the majority of gamers dont want it.

Save whenever I want, where ever I want, but dying shouldn't always lead to "reload you save -.-", it could for example work like this:

You get guards after you, you resist arrest and try to fight them of, only to get badly wounded "dead". You end up straight in jail, or if you had the money to pay for your crime on you, in addition to assault and resisting arrest, you could be found in the chapel, taken care of by the healers there. This would only be realistic, I mean is there really only to possibilities: To walk and be alive or be dead? Why can't we pass out and awake in a situation that would seem realistic? It would add so much to the game, imagine getting "killed" by bandits, some other explorer could come and rescue you where you are tied down, freeing you and returning you gear to you, some might get lost on the way but hey, that's the fee for dying Getting killed by a hungry greature however would cause your death, permanently. Or if the bandits just feel like it, they could dismember your head, causing you to having to re-load the old fashioned way like in Morrowind and Oblivion.

Well better prefer save outside of combat when go sleep with no enemies around, so safe places like Inns become similar to save points but fearless adventures can still save in dungeon if find place without danger and have bedroll or can make campsite.
Sleep to Save
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Good idea for hardcoe mode option trough.

I dont think thats a good idea, although i like that in some games it doesnt match with my experience of playing tes.
I think it should stay old school with the possibility of saving anywhere as TES is really complex,large and demanding rpg where saving points just wouldnt fit well as in other fps-rpg and co-op games where it is a nice feature

And which of these universal answers solves the problem of losing an hour or more of progress due to the random CTDs that have been a standard Bethesda feature for years, hmmm?

It ain't gonna happen because Bethesda knows better...not because "the majority don't want it." (There are other subjects out there which can be used to prove that Bethesda cares bugger-all about what "the majority" wants.)

I guess the issue is with the reliability of the game. If the game could reliably not crash, would it be ok to implement a new save system, or would you still be against it - and if so....why?

NO NO NO NO NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Am I weird in that I'd like it if Bethesda gave us a mostly crash free game FOR ONCE?

Besides save system and autosaves continue to work for crash situations. Just don't expect to reload a quicksave because you made a mistake unless you are ready to force kill the game to prevent it from erasing your quicksave on death

If reliability was a non-issue, I still wouldn't want it myself. I just don't see the necessity, or what it would add. :shrug:

And before The Inquisition starts- that's called an "opinion," and those don't have to be supported by 6 pages of empirical evidence- I like it that way, and that's all there is to it.





Nope, I'd love to see it myself- but so far their aptitude seems to be...ah..."in the other direction."



Sometimes. Go look around here, and see how often deactivating autosaves is recommended to prevent autosave corruption from the system trying to render the game and write a save fiule simultaneously. Corrupt autosaves induce stress when relied on.