Then what should they do?
Throw them in a prison?
That worked well for NCR.

If not executing them all cause it's too brutal, and if no putting them in prison, then what?
Leave them alone? So that they can prey on more innocent travelers?

Nipton had to be removed in some way.
Sure enough Legion was brutal but at least they got the job done.

I'm not arguing that their methods don't work for enforcing law and order, I'm just trying to point out the foolishness of attempting to justify what they do from a moral standpoint. Not everyone in Nipton was a Powder Ganger or raider, as I've said before. Not everyone there deserved to die, but Legion didn't discriminate; they just killed everyone.

Saying that all of Nipton deserved to be brutally crucified is saying that you think it's okay for somebody to be crucified for prostitution or gambling. Sure, some of Nipton had it coming, but some didn't and were murdered anyways.

Also consider the fact that Legion's military encroachments are entirely responsible for the revolt at NCR Correctional. They enabled the PG escape in the first place.

Not saying that everyone deserved to be crucified, but yet no one resisted, or tried to do anything about it. As Vulpes, said everyone just clutched their ticket hoping they'd win, only caring for themselves. Nipton was a rotten place filled with rotten people. The Legion are never the ones to simply steamroll towns just for the sake of doing it (Primm would be good example of that). But It'd seem Nipton was an exception to that..... I can only wonder why.

And are you seriously saying it's the Legion's fault things went wrong at the NCRCF? Do explain.

BTW- Tun, would you say that the Project Nevada mod is worth checking out? I saw your video and was fairly intrigued.

There were some who did fight back, a couple of dead legionarys and a pile of ash. The only one who really deserved what he got was the one who betrayed the town. The fort itself has enforced prostitution so who are they to criticize.

I agree with the OP. The Legion needs more content. I don't agree with their politics for my day to day life but sometimes it's fun to be a seriously crazy badguy in a game. I'd totally like to see a Legion town and not just a war camp.

Some say that the legion are evil but considering that democracy was a reason that the world became an post apocalyptic wasteland i understand what
Ceasar is trying to do. Some one said that he's a lunatic caused by a tumor but when you talk to him he actually speaks with such an intellictual theory
talking about a thesis (legion) and the antithesis (NCR) . And considering the fact that they don't touch chems and such i can say they they might be the most
cleared minded NPC's in the whole game.Even though crucifying and treating women like meat doesn't sit well with me. Furthermore a dlc with more legion characthers would be awesome we already know that Joshua Graham is coming out but can we really say that he would be in any condition to fight. They did burn him and threw him down the grand canyon. If you would survive that i don't think you would be with out a 3rd degree burns and broken if now decapitated limbs. Maybe be theyll give him prosthethic limbs!!! THE 6 Million Caps Graham!

Im new by the way so happy to be part of the forum!

There is a certain dark appeal however to ending up in Flagstaff Arizona as a slave - Let's see the courier get out of that one.

Are you talking about the house with all the booby traps? And what do you mean by enforced prostitution?

If you were unarmed, faced with a bunch of people who had weapons and knew how to use them, would you be particularly inclined to risk certain death rather than hope you might survive? It's easy for Vulpes and the Legion to sneer down at the "cowardice" of the townspeople, but at the end of the day they were the trained soldiers with the better equipment and fighting ability.

It's definitely worth checking out; although I was reluctant to do it this early, as I think Rebalance is likely to be the most important part of the mod, it already adds some great stuff.

I'd like to see a DLC for Legion and the NCR. It would be cool to visit big NCR cities and, places from the original fallout games.It would also be cool to see Arizona and what life under the Legion is like. maybe the DLC would give players a chance to see what life and government with both factions is like and, make both of the factions karma a little less black and white.

There's a pile of ash near a body with a lazer rifle, if you check the ash it has legion equipment. Armoured men, obviously trained threatening unarmoured civilians with obviously no training its not the people of Nipton who were cowards.

Enforced prostitution, except they don't get paid. I don't really want to go into details. I know that wasn't Vulpes meaning when he said they were a town of [censored]s but the Legion commit crimes too. So they are in no position to judge other people.

I believe it was their corruption that got them killed. They were only loyal to money.

the only crime they've ever really commited is murder since they don't drink or use chems. and even then there at war so killing is pretty much what war is and as we all know, "War...War never changes."

The only crimes they ever really commit has nothing to do with murder. It is war I really wasn't talking about murder at all.

you just totally back handed my comment without giving me examples.

The crimes i'm talking about are the ones they commit towards women. You do know there's not one free women in all of arizona, they're all owned. Some of the officers may have wives, but the wives have owners not husbands. And I do believe upon thinking about the people in Nipton, it is still murder to kill someone who is unarmed and not hostile regardless of weather they are at war or not.

The Legion have their own ideology and practice, their good and bad sides just like any other faction and it's possible to sympathize with them. That's what makes this game amazing, there's no good and bad, it's all the matter of perspective. I'm having emotional conflicts about staying loyal to the Brotherhood. But i digress, back to the legion, beyond Caesar's ideology they're just a bunch of pretentious extremist slavers.

Ave! I agree with you wholeheartedly and I too have wished long for a CL DLC.

HAIL CAESAR!

To explore the East of the Colorado, to own my own slaves, to become a slave and learn more of the culture(slaving and killing). I want to see more of the civilized side of things, not the war mongering stone hearted slavers we have been taught they are.(well ok most of them are.) I'd like to see the civilians and traders of the Legion.

Both sides have cowards and honourables. But the NCR mostly hascowards.

We're talking about a town that would kill you for a handful of caps. Don't act like they were a bunch of saints who'd have done no one harm.

you're absolutely right and you know who told it's ok for them to do that... The New California Republic (gasp!!!) and House is just as bad because he also has
prosttutes in his Dojo ( The Strip) and at least the legion uses women for the good of their survival as a whole ( not that i agree that women should be treated like meat) for reproduction and they dont pass women around they stay with one legionairee. better that than just spreading more disease and belligerent promescuity. And House is not without his crimes either, how many has House stepped over to get to where he is but he says its for the good of new vegas and wherever his power may reach.

Then you obviously don't live in the good old US of A.

Fixed. You could only enslve like 9 people in FO3.

AMERICA.

I wish the black guy from Rocky would come out with James Brown singing and bustin some moves.

I never said the people of Nipton were saints, I said the legion were cowards and murderers for attacking unarmoured citizens of a town.



The slaves in the camp are the camp [censored]s according to Siri. The other factions have nothing to do with the treatment of women by the legion, and [censored] women which is what the Legion do because they've taken away their right to say NO is a crime. Just because an officer who's bought "wife" is not passed around doesn't mean she's there by consent, so the same applies. To ensure the surivial of the species? Well the legion maybe because if they gave the women their rights back they would all run away.



Perhaps we can just stick to Fallout.

I would like Fallout games to get back to equal equality brutality and stop this focus on the one gender being mistreated.