Q&A says looking for ways to add to RP community, but... : Othor Games

» Sat Mar 22, 2014 3:44 am

It's inconvenient to sell with /say when there is zone chats

» Sat Mar 22, 2014 3:32 pm

ITT

Chat bubbles = immersion.

:bonk:

» Sat Mar 22, 2014 8:49 am

I can't argue that this has worked for other games, but ESO tries to be different, and more like other ES games. Subtitles have been in both voiced TES games in the past, I think, in my own opinion, that it would work in ESO as well. I was stating "where the health bars are" as a means of saying "at the bottom of the screen", not to say "show the health bars when talking".

my view was that you'd only see the chats of a person you were looking at, unless they were whispering.

then again, my brain is not accustomed to chat bubbles since I haven't read comics in 20 years. Even back then, had little interest for them. I wouldn't feel immersed to walk into a city in first person and have an almost solid ceiling of chat bubbles above my head, blotting out the sun better than any blood-cursed arrow. this may be why they left the whole thing out... too many varying opinions.

» Sat Mar 22, 2014 6:59 am

Talking about full immersion RP, wouldn't it rock if combat showed damage! Like, I swing and hit you with my axe. I see a big gash across your chest and blood dripping down. You don't see anything until you hit me, and then you see damage on me. The damage gets worse and worse until one of us kills the other. Now that would be true RP immersion!

» Sat Mar 22, 2014 2:09 pm

Unfortunetly, ESO also has a need to be an MMORPG with millions of players in the world. Skyrim, Oblivion, Morrowind, whatever, didnt need any chat bubbles *because* they are fully voiced - funny enough, the player character dont speak at all.

You cannot put full game voice on a player character. Or a million player characters. It just doesnt work. We need text and because needing text, we need speech bubbles. With voice, you can determine distance and location. That's what a speech bubble does to text, it replace the actual voice in a 3D space. Without it, its like watching TV with the sound volume off. Good luck determining which person in a crowd that just yelled the subtitle on the screen - assuming the yell is even in the subtitles.

To me, that's exactly what standing in a city in the ESO beta felt like. I was watching a busy, crowded city filled with voices, conversations, yelling... with the volume off. So all I saw was people standing still staring at each other with a blank expression.

It was pretty damn scary if you ask me. Like a quieter version of a zombie apocalypse.

» Sat Mar 22, 2014 5:40 pm

Chat bubbles would have to be limited to /say of course, but I definitely want them. They make RP a lot easier... RP in SWTOR was a nightmare because of their refusal to add speech bubbles.

» Sat Mar 22, 2014 7:39 am

/say and /group, IMO.

And nothing else.

» Sat Mar 22, 2014 12:06 pm

How about a /chat_bubble command? Kind of like a chat bubble channel one can use?

» Sat Mar 22, 2014 4:10 am

No One uses /say to sell things when a zone chat exist

» Sat Mar 22, 2014 12:14 pm

Japanese Goku voice! Shows it works ^^

» Sat Mar 22, 2014 1:20 pm

I'de be disabling them instantly.

I can only imagine going into a city and catching a screenful of chat bubbles. Some people even coloring their text a nice annoying purple to stick out.

» Sat Mar 22, 2014 2:20 pm

I give 100% support for chat bubles when /say is on. Great way to draw peoples attension when someone speaks in vincinity as it would happen in normal life. For those not used to chat bubles those really bring life in to the game.
And of course there should be an option to turn bubles off. But for default would be nice to have them on.

» Sat Mar 22, 2014 10:03 am

This. I'm indifferent about them being in, if they can be turned off. If they are put in, mine will certainly be off. IMO, they are more of a pain than not, but I have no qualms about people who like them using them with each other.

» Sat Mar 22, 2014 6:34 am

Cartoony? It's a computer game :smile:

It's disappointing they don't have chat bubbles. Let's hope somewhere, sometime, they see the light and change their mind. Though I seriously doubt that from what's already been said by them previously. At least give us the 'choice', a word development loves throwing around.

» Sat Mar 22, 2014 9:06 am

May I ask the question what exactly you expect to find in an MMORPG city?

Quests? You are only going to do those once, then you are out of there. A couple of chat bubbles wont destroy your 5 minutes of explaining to a questgiver you just saved the world for the 581st time.
Traders? You are going to spend your time in trading windows, not looking at the actual city so I cant see why you would care as.
Just loitering? You should not have gone into a city if you wanted peace and quiet.

So wait, let me get this straight... you go into a city - out of all the places you could go to, a CITY - and you expect it to be completely quiet and devoid of players so that it it doesnt disturb you?

Just... ugh...

» Sat Mar 22, 2014 2:45 pm

Well you could have a non cartoon type chat bubble. Or even text without a bubble with a mark above the chat host. You could even bind in a '/rpsay' or something. So that only rp's will use it.

» Sat Mar 22, 2014 4:56 am

Offhand, I'd say the person you quoted played SWG, and offhand, I'd say you didn't. Or you might be a little more understanding of his point.

That said, I personally am not against most things like chat bubbles that you would like if I can disable them.

» Sat Mar 22, 2014 4:21 pm

Yes, chatting in this game is completely disconnected. I'm all for this.

» Sat Mar 22, 2014 8:03 am

I could go for scrolls or like a text rounded rectangle.... but white and black comic book type chat bubbles would be a no for me.... and I love RP and I think being able to read what people are saying next to you on screen would be useful.... but so far I haven't had an issue with talking with people.... but its not obvious - you need to know who people are to follow the chat.