Scalers : The Elder Scrolls Series Discussion

» Fri May 13, 2011 9:49 am

I was playing around with the scalers in order to improve the pixellation (I could barely read the log file), and found the perfect scaler in case anyone else wants to use it:

Open up DOSBOX.CONF, and in the render part, edit "normal2x" with "advinterp2x".

render

- scaler=advinterp2xYou could also try advinterp3x, but I found that slows down things.

Now everything is very smooth, text is also much more legible!

» Fri May 13, 2011 3:32 pm

Tried it in DOSBox - pretty nice, certainly has more clarity than hq2x or any of the other scalers. Still, I personally prefer to keep Daggerfall in its massive, chunky, pixellated glory and stick with normal#x.

» Fri May 13, 2011 5:18 pm

I would too, but as I said the text is hard to make out. I also play in windowed mode, so that could contribute to it.

» Fri May 13, 2011 10:27 am

Also, if you change the renderer from "surface" to "ddraw" you can use custom resolutions. Using a dosbox frontend GUI like Dfend Reloaded makes everything MUCH easier to tinker with.

My current setup uses

renderer - ddraw
scaler - hq3x

window res 1024x768
fullscreen res 1280x1024

» Fri May 13, 2011 3:17 pm

http://www.dosbox.com/wiki/Scaler.

:)

» Fri May 13, 2011 10:26 am

http://www.dosbox.com/wiki/Scaler.

:)

Wow, this just made daggerfall that much better for me! And I was just messing around with them, and I think I prefer 2xsai the most, considering it's the smoothest. super2xsai also, since it gives it a slight pixelation.

How do you go about changing the render without a frontend? I looked but couldn't find anything in the conf.

» Fri May 13, 2011 4:15 pm

The technical term used in the config and the DOSBox console is "output". So look for that in your config, or if you just want to try it out temporarily and not save it in your DOSBox config, enter "output ddraw/opengl/surface/etc" in the command line before launching Daggerfall.

» Fri May 13, 2011 11:21 am

I've never heard of this. Will try it out when i get home.

» Fri May 13, 2011 4:03 pm

I've never heard of this. Will try it out when i get home.

Yes, it is quite exciting!

Are the samples of the Doom Guy's face using those different scalers representative of the overall changes that will be made? In other words, does the sample accurately depict how the rest of a game (say, Daggerfall) would look using the scaler?

» Fri May 13, 2011 9:00 am

It did for me. Try out the one in the first post, pixellation will basically go away.

» Fri May 13, 2011 10:31 am

I've got a pretty good computer. What are the best settings for graphical quality?

» Fri May 13, 2011 3:54 pm

advinterp3x

I've found to look best.

» Fri May 13, 2011 12:08 pm

advinterp3x

I've found to look best.

thanks

» Fri May 13, 2011 11:12 am

I've got a pretty good computer. What are the best settings for graphical quality?

Try them all and pick the one you like. It only takes five minutes. Some of them make the text easier to read. I didn't find the game looked significantly better with any of them.

» Fri May 13, 2011 4:45 pm

Tried it in DOSBox - pretty nice, certainly has more clarity than hq2x or any of the other scalers. Still, I personally prefer to keep Daggerfall in its massive, chunky, pixellated glory and stick with normal#x.

Same with me

» Fri May 13, 2011 7:25 am

"advinterp3x" seems to look the best to me. I am not getting any slowdown.

» Fri May 13, 2011 8:12 pm

Very nice. I like it and I don't have to strain my eyes anymore.

» Fri May 13, 2011 5:03 pm

"advinterp3x" seems to look the best to me. I am not getting any slowdown.

I don't like 3x because the window gets bigger. I prefer playing in a 640 resolution window, not full screen.

I'm using supersai2x now though.

» Fri May 13, 2011 6:18 pm

I'll probably keep playing with them. Did you use ddraw and change the resolution? I am using 1600x1200 and that seems to help.

» Fri May 13, 2011 7:16 pm

I'm using DDRAW but the rest is like this:

fullscreen=false
fulldouble=false
fullresolution=original
windowresolution=original
output=ddraw
autolock=true
sensitivity=100
waitonerror=true
priority=highest,pause
mapperfile=mapper.txt
usescancodes=true