Scientist plan to create a star

Post » Sun Nov 08, 2009 11:00 am

I love how, when the word 'star' is used, people think http://spaceflightnow.com/news/n0211/04soho/sun.jpg is going to hover 20 meters over our heads.

Well, to be fair, they are right in thinking of that, since the definition of a star is:

A self-luminous celestial body consisting of a mass of gas held together by its own gravity in which the energy generated by nuclear reactions in the interior is balanced by the outflow of energy to the surface, and the inward-directed gravitational forces are balanced by the outward-directed gas and radiation pressures.

Of course that means that the fusion reaction in the experiment is MOST DEFINITELY NOT a star.
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Post » Sun Nov 08, 2009 7:25 pm

This is definitely not a massive fusion reaction, it is very small, actually. It also isn't a star.


Yes, true. But as was previously stated, blowing things way out of proportion (no pun intended) is much more entertaining than saying 'oh, fusion power, been there done that. Ho-hum'.

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Can I still hit the 'on' button with my head, oh most excellent production manager? : D
I wanted to do it with the Hadron Collider, but NOOOOOOOO.








I wish a tiny sun would hover 20 meters over MY head. All I ever get are dangling spiders, dust motes, and bees.
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Post » Mon Nov 09, 2009 1:28 am

any time a scientist says "more or less" you should run the other direction.

more, or less, in the other direction? because once you start talking about direction, and speed. Well then you have vectors. And then your a scientist too.



And If a tiny star like that threatened my existence, I'd run up and punch it in the star-face. As it stands it looks like it gets punched in the face by a laser.
'Laser punch'
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Post » Sun Nov 08, 2009 4:07 pm

The fears will probably be about as unfounded as those regarding the LHC before it was turned on.
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Post » Sun Nov 08, 2009 8:00 pm

Gonna get shut down by the ignorant masses.
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Post » Mon Nov 09, 2009 12:07 am

The fears will probably be about as unfounded as those regarding the LHC before it was turned on.


The fears were legit. Especially since we're all really dead and this is just a figment of my non existent imagination.

....it doesn't have to make sense.
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Post » Sun Nov 08, 2009 11:46 pm

Woooo!!! If in charge of this as a democracy, the vast majority of the forum may have just doomed us according to 8 forum members, and the majority don't think it is any more dangerous than any other power plant :woot:

Can I still hit the 'on' button with my head, oh most excellent production manager? : D
I wanted to do it with the Hadron Collider, but NOOOOOOOO.

Sure, but you have to give me 3 tacos now, not just 2.
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Post » Sun Nov 08, 2009 10:37 pm

NOT TRUE BRO just ask Defron, he's lead production manager in charge of this project. He'll know.


This is too funny but I'll put some of my trust in DEFRON's positive side of this and understanding of the matter.

Still I have some worries but not as much.
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Post » Sun Nov 08, 2009 3:57 pm

Oh well it's a win-win situation. If the best happens we get much more insight into a seemingly unlimited power source. If the worst happens we all die instantaniously.
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Post » Mon Nov 09, 2009 12:07 am

I wish a tiny sun would hover 20 meters over MY head. All I ever get are dangling spiders, dust motes, and bees.
Angry, angry bees. ;3;

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Post » Mon Nov 09, 2009 1:43 am

If the worst happens we all die instantaniously.

Oh, there was more to the post? I was just jumping for joy at this one.

If only... :chaos: :nuke: :chaos:
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Post » Mon Nov 09, 2009 12:26 am

Sounds like the same fear mongering that occured from news reports when infomation was released on LHC and the common pleb believed it. At worst which by the way is about as likely as a nuclear meltdown with modern technology and failsafes (1/100000) and cause a atom bomb explosion (Essentially a small sun in its self) versus a protentially great fuel source that not exploiting it would be absurd.
The same thing that is sensationalism causing the masses to think that nuclear energy is more dangerous then all other fuel sources combined when in reality coal mining is far more dangerous for enviromental and health problems and storing coal waste that never decays versus used fission material that does decay overtime. (Which granted does take a long time but can be buried deep in the earth).
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Post » Sun Nov 08, 2009 3:34 pm

Better that some awesome science project kills humanity than something like the http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dead_Hand_(nuclear_war).

I'm more liable to trust the word of people who have devoted their entire lives to studying physics than those who haven't. Oh wait, I don't have to take them by their word because there's thousands of documents of experiments just like this one on a larger scale and have the science to both prove its worth AND its safety!
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Post » Sun Nov 08, 2009 7:27 pm

Sounds like the same fear mongering that occured from news reports when infomation was released on LHC and the common pleb believed it. At worst which by the way is about as likely as a nuclear meltdown with modern technology and failsafes (1/100000) and cause a atom bomb explosion (Essentially a small sun in its self) versus a protentially great fuel source that not exploiting it would be absurd.
The same thing that is sensationalism causing the masses to think that nuclear energy is more dangerous then all other fuel sources combined when in reality coal mining is far more dangerous for enviromental and health problems and storing coal waste that never decays versus used fission material that does decay overtime. (Which granted does take a long time but can be buried deep in the earth).

Speaking about dangerous fuel sources, did you hear about that oil spill?
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Post » Sun Nov 08, 2009 2:42 pm

The idea itself doesn't sound dangerous; but if a chunk of california ASPLODEDED cause an intern made a decimal error, I wouldn't be surprised.


:P
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Post » Sun Nov 08, 2009 9:38 pm

Changing my Christmas wish list:

1. a star

This.
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Post » Sun Nov 08, 2009 6:54 pm

I love how, when the word 'star' is used, people think http://spaceflightnow.com/news/n0211/04soho/sun.jpg is going to hover 20 meters over our heads.

The only thing I love more is the 'scientists have said this procedure is perfectly safe, as do you. You are not a scientist however, so, while I'm not a scientist either, I'm going to claim that http://spaceflightnow.com/news/n0211/04soho/sun.jpg is infact going to hover 20 meters over our heads and potentially kill us', argument.

It's not possible to create a "star" as such. It's kinda like the same thing as when the media and some people were going crazy about the "black hole" to be created on earth. The sun can keep the fusion reaction going thanks to the amount of mass and the resulting gravity keeping it together, and pressure. It's really not possible to create such a scenario on earth, because there is just not enough of any of what makes the sustained reaction possible in the sun. The scientist are trying to trick it, by ways of magnetic confinement or something called laser inertial confinement, which I'll have to read into more.
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Post » Sun Nov 08, 2009 10:09 am

Does a magnetic force really erode, like within a sustained magnet. Or is there some element of an "incredible static" charge to it. As, far as energy, I have always heard there is no 'free lunch' method to use it as electricity. Highly directional magnets to simulate gravity then shooting some hydrogen with a laser. Is the energy level going to be consistent? Is the whole thing just much more convenient and safe?
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Post » Mon Nov 09, 2009 12:02 am

Let's reiterate; the scientists, who have been schooled in this subject for years upon years, and have actually dedicated their lives to designing and building this thing, think it's safe enough to proceed.

Now, whether or not a bunch of gamers who have no schooling in the subject whatsoever and have dedicated their lives to understanding the current season of Lost believe it is safe enough to proceed is entirely irrelevant.

Yes, your opinions on the matter are all completely irrelevant, as are mine, because the people who do know how this works think it's safe enough to proceed, end of story!

You don't understand the risks, I don't understand the risks, our opinions are useless on this matter. Those who do understand the risks think it's fine, and that's what we're gonna go on. It doesn't matter one bit if you think there could be an explosion, or lethal fallout or whatever.

Our opinions on this matter don't matter!

Don't matter!

Are irrelevant!

Am I being unclear and ambiguous here?
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Post » Sun Nov 08, 2009 2:10 pm

They should focus on something like the garbage fusion engine from Back to the Future 2, instead. They could set up rigs in the http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Pacific_Garbage_Patch in the oceans. Which, as it stands, is a very renewable source of fuel.
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Post » Mon Nov 09, 2009 1:53 am

I wonder if Doc Ock will be leading the experiment.. :whistling:
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Post » Sun Nov 08, 2009 12:50 pm

Nothing will happen. Well, Not until 2060 when the Oil Wars start.
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Post » Sun Nov 08, 2009 8:19 pm

Am I being unclear and ambiguous here?

No, but it makes for a good debate on a gaming forum. :P
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Post » Sun Nov 08, 2009 6:40 pm

Can they also make mini black holes?
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Post » Sun Nov 08, 2009 7:51 pm

Nothing will happen. Well, Not until 2060 when the Oil Wars start.


Don't you mean 2077? :wave:
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