Scientist plan to create a star

Post » Sun Nov 08, 2009 1:15 pm

It's dangerous...But it could do so much for us...I am personally on the fence.
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Janette Segura
 
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Post » Sun Nov 08, 2009 7:01 pm

Wow, this could be discovery of the century. Lets hope this fuels our countries rather than our wars. Seriously, any scientific breakthrough is often exploited by the military, i dont want them dropping f bombs everywhere. <<< EDIT;thats fusion bombs

Lets hop this can be packaged into a spacecraft for interplanetary travel. Im no scientist but i think teh laser is pretty huge, too big for a spacecraft.

:rofl:

Thank you, SuperMage
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Kathryn Medows
 
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Post » Sun Nov 08, 2009 1:03 pm

You do know what a hydrogen bomb is, right? It is a fission reaction that starts a fusion reaction. So, yeah, We've had bombs that use the power of fusion for over half a century now.


Maybe he means the giant lasers. :hubbahubba:
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Post » Sun Nov 08, 2009 3:37 pm

It's dangerous...But it could do so much for us...I am personally on the fence.


Read the rest of the thread.

If you won't, then allow me to summarize; it's not dangerous, there is no fence to sit on in the first place.

I, for one, tend to let the people who have, you know, kinda, dedicated their lives to this stuff, decide whether or not to proceed, because nobody on this forum, save maybe Dogsbody, is qualified to make that decision.
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Post » Sun Nov 08, 2009 10:04 pm

Do you guys seriously believe oil use is any safer? A lack of it brought us such worlds as Mad Max, which brought us Beyond the Thunderdome.

We've got to stop this haphazard use of oil before we have to LIVE with the Thunderdome and all of its terrible acting and inane plot points!


GARY rule bartertown!


I'm all for nuclear power. The military has had nuclear powered ships and submarines since what, the 50's?
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Post » Sun Nov 08, 2009 7:22 pm

It's an old concept, though. I first heard about a "star in the jar" experiment back around mid-90's.
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Post » Sun Nov 08, 2009 7:31 pm

So let me get this straight, in a h bomb the fission reaction splitting the atom is used to fuse the atoms to create energy. Science hurst my brain :sadvaultboy:


That's it, i've never understood why a fusion reaction releases energy, though. But i don't have to, i'm not a nuclear phycisist, just a simple software developer :D
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Post » Mon Nov 09, 2009 2:07 am

I'm no Scientist, and I sure as hell didn't read the rest of this thread, but they want to create a star on the surface of the Earth????

Won't that like.... burn a little bit? :unsure: A wee bit hot, me thinks?
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Post » Sun Nov 08, 2009 5:52 pm

That's it, i've never understood why a fusion reaction releases energy, though. But i don't have to, i'm not a nuclear phycisist, just a simple software developer :D

When hydrogen fuses with hydrogen you get helium and a neutron or proton (depending on what hydrogen isotopes were fused) This weighs less than the two original hydrogen isotopes. The mass lost is converted to energy due to mass–energy equivalence (that E=mc2 formula)

I'm no Scientist, and I sure as hell didn't read the rest of this thread, but they want to create a star on the surface of the Earth????

Won't that like.... burn a little bit? :unsure: A wee bit hot, me thinks?

As has been said tens upon tens of times in this thread: They are not creating a star on the surface of the earth, it is merely an extremely small fusion reaction, and fusion happens to be the power source of stars, so some idiot decided to claim that they were making a mini-star.

It will burn a wee bit hot, 100 million degrees centigrade, of course we've burned stuff much hotter than that on Earth many times before. Our record is just shy of 2 billion degrees centigrade IIRC. Burning a small thing really hot is a non-issue and quite safe in a lab.
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Post » Sun Nov 08, 2009 3:02 pm

As has been said tens upon tens of times in this thread: They are not creating a star on the surface of the earth, it is merely an extremely small fusion reaction, and fusion happens to be the power source of stars, so some idiot decided to claim that they were making a mini-star.

It will burn a wee bit hot, 100 million degrees centigrade, of course we've burned stuff much hotter than that on Earth many times before. Our record is just shy of 2 billion degrees centigrade IIRC. Burning a small thing really hot is a non-issue and quite safe in a lab.

Good to know.
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Post » Sun Nov 08, 2009 12:58 pm

Scientists also said people will live on mars,have flying cars,time travel,space travel...etc. its all LIES.
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Post » Sun Nov 08, 2009 3:17 pm

Scientists also said people will live on mars,have flying cars,time travel,space travel...etc. its all LIES.

We have all of these things. Flying cars may not be mainstream, for very good reasons, but several different implementations are technically feasable. For time travel, we're already doing it, and could travel into the future more slowly by harnessing relativity, and space travel? Not very far, but still!
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Post » Sun Nov 08, 2009 5:18 pm

First off, 2016 is the end of the world. Why can't scientists leave things alone?

If they left things alone, you wouldn't have anything you have right now.

I think this is cool. It's pretty hilarious how people panic when anything tries to advance. OMG 2012 WTFHAXORZ...
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Post » Sun Nov 08, 2009 10:41 pm

We have all of these things. Flying cars may not be mainstream, for very good reasons, but several different implementations are technically feasable. For time travel, we're already doing it, and could travel into the future more slowly by harnessing relativity, and space travel? Not very far, but still!


True but I doubt that in 20 years or less life would be like Star Wars,Mass effect,etc.
EDIT: I could be wrong though.
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Post » Mon Nov 09, 2009 2:44 am

True but I doubt that in 20 years or less life would be like Star Wars,Mass effect,etc.
EDIT: I could be wrong though.

Yeah :(
90% of the fancy technology in ME is almost entirely Mass Effect powered, though - something we have yet to prove is even possible, never mind exists :'(
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Post » Sun Nov 08, 2009 4:25 pm

If they left things alone, you wouldn't have anything you have right now.

I think this is cool. It's pretty hilarious how people panic when anything tries to advance. OMG 2012 WTFHAXORZ...


I didn't mean inventions or even the fusion thing, I meant screw with things that should be left alone, big example human cloning. One Mr. Oblivion is enough. :P

That 2016 comment was from the TV show 'Flash Forward', it was a joke, not sure if you were reply to me on that.

EDIT: Those who panic will be somewhat prepared just in case. Those that are heroes will scratch their ass and beg for help from someone who was prepared if something happens. Better to not happen, though..
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Post » Sun Nov 08, 2009 8:24 pm

An interesting idea. It can't turn out worse than when they tried to blow a piece of the moon up a few months ago to see if theres water in it, Because that was a massive :facepalm:
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Post » Mon Nov 09, 2009 1:39 am

All i'm saying is that fusion energy is self sustaining. It'd be great to have on this world...and seeing the economy change overnight would make me laugh a bit.

Slightly off-topic Q, but haven't scientist looked at using anti-matter for energy? In my viewpoint, that is MUCH worse that fusion energy...
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Post » Sun Nov 08, 2009 10:49 am

All i'm saying is that fusion energy is self sustaining. It'd be great to have on this world...and seeing the economy change overnight would make me laugh a bit.

Slightly off-topic Q, but haven't scientist looked at using anti-matter for energy? In my viewpoint, that is MUCH worse that fusion energy...

Sure, because we have loads of antimatter to experiment on.

I didn't mean inventions or even the fusion thing, I meant screw with things that should be left alone, big example human cloning. One Mr. Oblivion is enough. :P

When it comes to science, there's no such thing as "should be left alone". Obviously there are moral issues, but that doesn't mean we shouldn't research human cloning, nuclear power, or anything else - scientists should do science, for science's sake. Yes, you can make a nuclear bomb, but that does not mean there are no good ways to use knowledge of nuclear power.
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Post » Sun Nov 08, 2009 12:52 pm

An interesting idea. It can't turn out worse than when they tried to blow a piece of the moon up a few months ago to see if theres water in it, Because that was a massive :facepalm:

They shot something into to moon; they didn't try to blow it up....
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Post » Mon Nov 09, 2009 3:08 am

They shot something into to moon; they didn't try to blow it up....


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Post » Sun Nov 08, 2009 11:55 pm

When it comes to science, there's no such thing as "should be left alone".


Then we see 2 different views. I still agree in what I said but not disagree with you.
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Post » Sun Nov 08, 2009 3:12 pm

No, but using stars as energy source is complete madness.

I can think of only one response to this: :lol:.

Almost every source of energy, from oil to honey to wind, originally come from a star: that one we call 'the Sun'. And given that this planet -and therefore all life on it- is pretty much made from star dust...


:lol:
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Post » Sun Nov 08, 2009 9:17 pm

I wonder if Jiub put the cliff racers on Mars..
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Post » Sun Nov 08, 2009 8:51 pm

The main issue with electricity and planes is that it CAN work just fine for propeller aircraft, but jets fundamentally need a fuel source they can compress and release into the jet engine to create thrust, which electricity can not do.

If helium ends up being a by-product of fusion, then we've got pretty much all the ingredients for airships! :D
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