Screw off, Delphine, YOU kill Paarthurnax if you want him de

Post » Sun May 27, 2012 12:22 pm

It pisses me off that the two remaining Blades are so insistent that - out of all the dragons flying around - they want me to kill the one that was instrumental in saving the entire freaking planet. They even acknowledge this fact multiple times and STILL refuse to even respect me until I kill Paarthurnax. I went to the [censored] afterlife, talked to legendary heroes of Skyrim, killed the greatest threat to Tamriel since the Oblivion crisis, and came back with a shout to summon the help of one of those great heroes - from the dead. Excuse me for not giving two craps about your "oath' to kill Paarthurnax.

I have no clue why Bethesda would include this in the game. It makes no sense whatsoever that they would be completely blind to EVERYTHING ELSE THAT HAPPENED AROUND THEM. I swear they're more concerned about Paarthurnax than they ever were about Alduin. My accomplishments more than justify a changing of the oaths and the appointment of me to be the new Grandmaster of the Blades.
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Post » Sun May 27, 2012 5:37 pm

I agree i thought it was so cool to have the blades back in remnants and how they hated the thalmor and then i was gona help rebuild them but all of a sudden they ask me to kill the one good dragon in all of tamriel and now their ruined.
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Post » Sun May 27, 2012 9:17 am

What's worse is that Delphine asked me to bring her followers - in an attempt to start building up the Blades again - but won't talk to me unless I kill Paarthurnax. You're kind of shooting yourself in the foot, girl. Go kill Paarthurnax yourself while I go find new recruits. Good luck with your fight against Paarthurnax by the way. Have fun with that.
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Post » Sun May 27, 2012 8:04 am

It can be justified by the fact that he must pay for the blood he has on his hands. Thousands are dead, killed unjustly. Someone must pay the price, punishment must be dealt to a murderer, no matter what his intentions were. He must pay for his past attempt to aid in cleansing Tamriel of the mortal races.
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Post » Sun May 27, 2012 5:24 pm

It can be justified by the fact that he must pay for the blood he has on his hands. Thousands are dead, killed unjustly. Someone must pay the price, punishment must be dealt to a murderer, no matter what his intentions were. He must pay for his past attempt to aid in cleansing Tamriel of the mortal races.
I can forgive his Earlier transgressions considering he helped ensure the future of the entirety of Mortals.

Besides, that was the freakin Mythic Era when the Dragon War happened.
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Post » Sun May 27, 2012 6:07 pm

He has a very cool speech at the end of the MQ. Therefore, he will not die in my game.
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Post » Sun May 27, 2012 1:16 pm

It pisses me off that the two remaining Blades are so insistent that - out of all the dragons flying around - they want me to kill the one that was instrumental in saving the entire freaking planet. They even acknowledge this fact multiple times and STILL refuse to even respect me until I kill Paarthurnax. I went to the [censored] afterlife, talked to legendary heroes of Skyrim, killed the greatest threat to Tamriel since the Oblivion crisis, and came back with a shout to summon the help of one of those great heroes - from the dead. Excuse me for not giving two craps about your "oath' to kill Paarthurnax.

I have no clue why Bethesda would include this in the game. It makes no sense whatsoever that they would be completely blind to EVERYTHING ELSE THAT HAPPENED AROUND THEM. I swear they're more concerned about Paarthurnax than they ever were about Alduin. My accomplishments more than justify a changing of the oaths and the appointment of me to be the new Grandmaster of the Blades.

I need a chat option to flip Delphine the bird and walk away, I also have no intention of killing Paarthurnax. Id rather leave the blades quest incomplete then help the most useful and interesting character in the game.
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Post » Sun May 27, 2012 11:30 pm

I killed him, and regretted it. Believe me, rebuilding the blades isn't as fun as it should be. Its just a waste of followers. [censored] the blades, they svck in this game.
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Post » Sun May 27, 2012 9:57 pm

It can be justified by the fact that he must pay for the blood he has on his hands. Thousands are dead, killed unjustly. Someone must pay the price, punishment must be dealt to a murderer, no matter what his intentions were. He must pay for his past attempt to aid in cleansing Tamriel of the mortal races.

She has sand in her [censored] from something that happened ages and ages ago. She readily admits that without Paarthurnax, Alduin could never have been defeated. He more than makes up for any previous transgressions. Besides, in the beginning, weren't the dragons sort of forced to follow Alduin. After all, Akatosh actually created him. They would have been in trouble if they refused to obey the will of Akatosh.
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Post » Sun May 27, 2012 10:04 pm

There's only one solution:

Stab her.
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Post » Sun May 27, 2012 10:08 am

There's only one solution:

Stab her.

I think there should be an option to just kill the two remaining Blades and start it from scratch with you as the Grandmaster. They are clearly very inept at their job. In fact, the entire Blades organization was wiped out by the Thalmar. The Imperial Legion beat the Thalmar. Why couldn't the Blades resist and defend against them?
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Post » Sun May 27, 2012 8:15 pm

I think there should be an option to just kill the two remaining Blades and start it from scratch with you as the Grandmaster. They are clearly very inept at their job. In fact, the entire Blades organization was wiped out by the Thalmar. The Imperial Legion beat the Thalmar. Why couldn't the Blades resist and defend against them?

That'd be a nice feature, and a good idea for a future mod. The blades now consist of an old man and a very stubborn lady, and they only seem to care about using you to get rid of paarthunax (sp?)


But really..
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stab her.
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Post » Sun May 27, 2012 9:33 pm

Paartharaux+death=A better tamriel

Cheers
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Post » Sun May 27, 2012 5:39 pm

My reaction when the blades cling to their dying order's beliefs and virtues so that you may slay an ancient being who will save mortal kind and teach the voice to future generations.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lsMaBta4SxI
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Post » Sun May 27, 2012 8:22 am

Paartharaux+death=A better tamriel

Cheers

How? He helps you a ton in the main quest and meditates a lot to fight his urges to kill everything
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Post » Sun May 27, 2012 1:34 pm

It can be justified by the fact that he must pay for the blood he has on his hands. Thousands are dead, killed unjustly. Someone must pay the price, punishment must be dealt to a murderer, no matter what his intentions were. He must pay for his past attempt to aid in cleansing Tamriel of the mortal races.
I think his response when you tell him that the Blades want him dead pretty much sums that up:

"Is it better to be born good, or to overcome your evil nature?"
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Post » Sun May 27, 2012 3:30 pm

You are a Dragonborn. You have dragon blood in you, and you can easily choose to be just as evil as any of the dragons you've slain.

.. yet Delphine only seems to care about one dragon -- the same dragon, mind you, that helped save the world (and not just once, but twice -- that we know of, anyway). Great job, Bethesda. I can see your definition of "freedom" refers only to the fact that we can choose to ignore quests rather than completing them in our own way.

TES series is going downhill. Bethesda would rather focus on making money and graphics than a great RPG experience. The Fable games do a better job of allowing the player to make choices that actually matter and reflect how they've chosen to play the game.
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Post » Sun May 27, 2012 5:19 pm

It can be justified by the fact that he must pay for the blood he has on his hands. Thousands are dead, killed unjustly. Someone must pay the price, punishment must be dealt to a murderer, no matter what his intentions were. He must pay for his past attempt to aid in cleansing Tamriel of the mortal races.
I have to say, that kind of mindset is complete nonsense to me. Someone does something. They genuinely regret it and vow to never do it again. They still need to be punished. Why?! The whole point of punishment is to discourage that kind of behavior. What are they "paying the price" for? Killing Paarthurnax will not bring back the people he killed, nor will it accomplish anything whatsoever. As a matter of fact, if he had died in this illogical notion of punishment before the Dragonborn met him, then most likely everyone would have died. He prevented the immediate death of every mortal in existence and of Mundus itself.

Vengeance is not a good thing.
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Post » Sun May 27, 2012 10:59 am

You are a Dragonborn. You have dragon blood in you, and you can easily choose to be just as evil as any of the dragons you've slain.

.. yet Delphine only seems to care about one dragon -- the same dragon, mind you, that helped save the world (and not just once, but twice -- that we know of, anyway). Great job, Bethesda. I can see your definition of "freedom" refers only to the fact that we can choose to ignore quests rather than completing them in our own way.

TES series is going downhill. Bethesda would rather focus on making money and graphics than a great RPG experience. The Fable games do a better job of allowing the player to make choices that actually matter and reflect how they've chosen to play the game.

It's these sort of missteps by Bethesda that tick me off. Skyrim is such a great game even with all the flaws. Just imagine what it'll be like in a year or two with expansion packs and community mods.
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Post » Sun May 27, 2012 4:28 pm

Paartharaux+death=No tamriel

Cheers
Fixed
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Post » Sun May 27, 2012 10:09 am

Guys look at it this way. Bethesda was not making a lame decision, they were making a decision that makes you think. Join the Blades and recruit members? Or keep the dragon alive and get no reward (except moral satisfaction)? The Blades have changed a lot since the Oblivion Crisis and we see what they've become. Just as the Greybeards said, they are rash and don't think things through. This is not a bad decision by Bethesda, it's a way of showing who the Blades have become.
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Post » Sun May 27, 2012 11:10 am

It's these sort of missteps by Bethesda that tick me off. Skyrim is such a great game even with all the flaws. Just imagine what it'll be like in a year or two with expansion packs and community mods.
Community mods don't help people who play Skyrim on a console, so Bethesda needs to stop relying on the community to fix its mistakes and make its games better. As it stands, vanilla Morrowind still has more replay value, even after all these years, than vanilla Skyrim. That's pathetic. Bethesda should be learning from its mistakes and correcting them rather than adding superfluous features that take the place of tools used by those who wish to role-play, such as the journal, and a deep, interactive storyline.

Guys look at it this way. Bethesda was not making a lame decision, they were making a decision that makes you think. Join the Blades and recruit members? Or keep the dragon alive and get no reward (except moral satisfaction)? The Blades have changed a lot since the Oblivion Crisis and we see what they've become. Just as the Greybeards said, they are rash and don't think things through. This is not a bad decision by Bethesda, it's a way of showing who the Blades have become.
That might have been the case if we were given the option to tell Delphine to lick our boots.
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Post » Sun May 27, 2012 1:30 pm

In case you all haven't noticed, Paarthurnax betrayed Alduin so whos to say that he will not end up betraying the mortals in Skyrim from not being able to contain his killing nature? Even though it svcked, it had to be done. Also, lol at the people taking Paarthurnax's death way too seriously claiming that, "Bethesda svcks, they are really dumbing down ES, so on and so forth."
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Post » Sun May 27, 2012 1:28 pm

I am not killing Skyrim's version of Wrex.
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Post » Sun May 27, 2012 5:04 pm

I was considering letting him live until he said something along the lines of needing to meditate every day to control his dominating nature. Every day? Really? So if he skips a day he'll go back to kill all human ways? Sorry Paarthurnax, I couldn't take that chance. What I didn't like was that I took half his health before he even reacted to my attacks.
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