Hi,

i've made a Mod called ' Oblivion 4ever ' (i've almost finished v1.9) and the statues of mehrunes dagon within this mod all crumble to the ground after the Daedric High-Priest or Priestess is killed. The problem is that some of the statues inside 2 of the 3 Daedric Realms i' ve duplicated and modified by hand, don't return to their former 3Dstate after the game resets. It worked before in v1.8.1 and that's the reason why I don't understand why it fails now. The other statues all function as they should.

Note: I always copy the original stuff before I use them in my Mod to ensure maximum compatibility with Mods made by other people, and to avoid screw ups of the original game.

Examples:

O4EStatueDagonCrumble

O4EDremoraHighPriestessRealm01Shrine03


I use the following scripts to make the whole thing work:


Mehrunes Dagon Statue:

scn O4EStatueDagonCrumbleSCRIPTshort activatedshort busyfloat timerref mySelfref myParentfloat fTrapDamagefloat fTrapPushBackfloat fTrapMinVelocityshort bTrapContinuousBegin onLoad	set mySelf to getSelf	set myParent to getParentRef	set fTrapDamage to 0	set fTrapPushBack to 500	set fTrapMinVelocity to 20	set bTrapContinuous to 0EndBegin onActivate	if isActionRef player == 0 && isActionRef mySelf == 0 && activated == 0		playgroup unequip 0		myParent.activate mySelf 1		set activated to 1		set timer to 7		set fTrapDamage to 20	endifEndBegin gameMode		if activated == 1 && timer <= 0		set activated to 2		set fTrapDamage to 0	endif	if timer >= 0		set timer to timer - getSecondsPassed	endifEndBegin onReset	reset3DState	set busy to 0End

The High-Priests and Priestesses:

ScriptName O4EHighPriestsScriptBegin onDeathO4EStatueDagonCrumble01REF.playgroup unequip 0O4EStatueDagonCrumble02REF.playgroup unequip 0O4EStatueDagonCrumble03REF.playgroup unequip 0O4EStatueDagonCrumble04REF.playgroup unequip 0O4EStatueDagonCrumble05REF.playgroup unequip 0O4EStatueDagonCrumble06REF.playgroup unequip 0End

I've used a clean saved game to test my Mod...


If anyone can help me.. Thanks!


Dutch666

Did you edit the statues' 3D-models, or just their stats? Are they correctly referenced and/or parented?

I've edited only their stats...



I think so, all of the statues have their own High-Priests and Priestesses and the script attached to them will activated the statue's script.

Hmm... I shall see into the problem, and try if it happens to me. You could also upload your .esp to a file sharing site like Mediafire, and I could directly try to fix it.

First I will re-check if everything is properly referenced 'n stuff....


You hear from me agian in about 60 minutes...

By the way, have you tried if the non-working statues respond to Reset3DState -command at all?

How do I do that?


P.S: The rubble from the statues will be deleted by the game when it resets itself.

Update: I've just discovered that v1.8.1 of Oblivion 4ever has exactly the same problem (darn!)...... If you download the .exe from http://planetelderscrolls.gamespy.com/View.php?view=OblivionMods.Detail&id=6120 you can help me by finding the cause of the problem in this earlier version.

Much thanks in advance,

Dutch666

In-game, select the statue you want and write Reset3DState to the console And yes, the rubble vanishes, as it isn't really rubble; It's just the statue's animation which makes it look like it's separate objects (which they are, but if the animation was reverted, the pieces would pile up and form a statue again )

Thnx for the explanation, I will try your suggestion ASAP.


p.s:

if you need help finding your way in Oblivion 4ever v1.8.1 just ask.

The reset3Dstate command worked on both statues!

What does that say to you?

It says that it should work withing the script... Could you explain in detail what the problem is with the statues?

The mod looks nice, by the way

Well, there are two buggy statues:

the smaller one near the Quake Ruin in Realm-01 and the large-one in Realm-02.

Both statues crumble to the ground once the High-Priest or Priestess is dead, but when the game resets, their 3Dstate doesn't reset to its default setting.

Test it in-game and you'll see.




Thank You! It was a lot of work to make it look that way :goodjob:

By "game reset", do you mean when the cell resets? I tested the cell reset anomaly twice; first, by waiting four days (three days = 72 game hours, which is the time in which a cell resets - one extra day to be sure it is reset) in the same cell as the statue at the Quake Ruin. After the four days, the statue was still looking like it was hit the 9/11 plane. On the second attempt, I waited at the Shrine in Tamriel. After four days, I coc'd back to O4EQuakeRuinEntrance, and the statue was reset to it's wholly self So, if the "cell reset" is what you mean, I tell you; it works, but you can't be in the same cell (possibly not even near it, or at least as long as it is visible), or it will not be reset.

Yes, all the interior and exterior cells reset when the game resets.




I always wait in front of the Haunted Farm. Maybey the Oblivion files on my PC are corrupted.

I will do another test.... plz, stand by

I will - I am working on my own mod till morning to the late night, so I will be here, that's for sure

I've completely uninstalled / reinstalled Oblivion and retested Oblivion 4ever, but the statues will not reset to their former state when the game resets itself.

Conclusion: the cause of the problem has nothing to do with a corrupt Oblivion install on my computer.


Well, I've run out of idea's....


Do one final thing for me if you will, give the large Mehrunes Dagon statue inside Realm-02 the full 9/11 treatment, wait at least 4 days in a far away cell and return to see if the statue has been reset.

If that works it means two things:


1. the Mod works as it should work.

2. my PC is cursed.


dutch666

Hate to break it to you, but; After four days from "breaking" the statue, I went back to O4EStatueMehrunesDagon01 and - It was standing again, healthy as ever. That darned Dagon, he just can't be killed, can he?

Thank you for your trouble! Now I can be fairly sure my Mod works just fine!


I'll go to bed now, good night and good luck with finishing your own Mod! :goodjob:


dutch666

Thanks, and good night. I should go to bed some time soon too; it's already half-past midnight

Before I forget;

you'll be mentioned and thanked in the credits of the README of v1.9 of Oblivion 4ever B)


dutch666

Nah, that's nothing, really. I just felt the urge to help a fellow modder, I don't need any credit for it

You get it anyway..