Either that or the cells include a portion of the outside before they transition into another cell.

It could be similar to Oblivion when Rocks fell in the dungeons.

Likely, i still hope they arent cells though. I mean, im no game expert, but wouldnt it be impossible to have that many caves and them not be cells? and wouldnt that say that buildings dont have to be either (and i think its confirmed they are)

The only interesting thing of this video is one of the guy's hair.

Really, it doesn't show anything new.

The caves and buildings in TES have to be individual cells really because of our beloved clutter items that make the world so much more real. The amount of clutter items in a single town in Oblivion is several thousands and trying to render them all at once would be an issue. Individual cells is basically a must to make it easier on all computers. But on most computers it's a very fast load going into a cell. Frankly I don't even notice the load times and just think of myself just walking in the door because it's instantaneous on my computer but that's me, some peoples computers may take several seconds (older computers, average computers today should do it pretty quickly.)

five seconds = 100+ screenshots...

200 actually..

Assuming that the games averaging at least 40fps

Doesn't matter what the game is putting out, video capture is rarely greater than 30fps.

Oh that was much higher than 40 fps, looked like their projector ran at 120Hz, so that's about 600 frames. That's just a guess, otherwise it's probably locked at 60Hz.

I hope that was a vampire breaking out of that coffin :tes:

I just want the next book to be leaked or just released would be good.

We have a winner! :thumbsup:


And how exactly can you tell this? Magic? The framerate of the video is 29.969811, so 30FPS according to VLC. Even if the projector is 120/240/480Hz the game is at most 60FPS, possibly capped at 30FPS. That's all the data there could possibly be.

this is pretty awesome. I was off for a day and I come back to see some leaked footage, awesome

Sweet.

Can you ever go into a thread without starting a conflict? I can tell by eye that the game was running on more than 40FPS because I constantly run at over 200 FPS on all games no matter what their graphics settings and I frequently flip between 120Hz monitor and 60Hz monitor, so you start to get an eye for framerate after awhile. Like I said, it's fluidity suggested either 60Hz or 120Hz. The framerate cap is normally that for the 360 but the framerate cap can be removed to fit more with your monitor as I've seen people do before and I'm sure BGS would have no issue with doing...

Wow, you all really liked those 5 seconds, lol.

If by conflict you mean I do my best to repair the damage caused by people who continually make things up, then I guess not. You continually and baselessly make up information in order to "confirm" things, or correct other people (like your "No this is about 600 frames"). "About 600 frames" of information is not possible since the video is at 30FPS. I'm sorry you see this as me "starting a conflict". I'm just trying to keep other people from latching onto incorrect information, as a service to the community.


You couldn't possibly tell from a 30FPS video at what FPS another video inside the video is at. You are only receiving 30FPS of information. You could only say whether or not the video is above or below 30FPS, and it's definitely not below 30FPS, that much is true. "Getting an eye" for framerate only matters if you were there in person viewing the projector. I assume you were not. Our eyes don't have a framerate, and this is the reason we can "get an eye" for whether something is 30, 60, or 120 FPS.. but it has to be in person. The only case in which this is not true is if the video you're watching is the same FPS as your monitor. Most monitors are 60Hz. If you're watching a 30FPS video of a game on a projector on a 60Hz monitor the game is essentially... 30FPS! Only if the video were 60FPS would you be able to make out this "fluidity" of which you speak. I'm sorry you don't understand this. But think about it.... If I took the leaked footage and showed it to you at 15FPS, the game would look choppy no? How do you tell it's 30 or 60FPS then?

But honestly... who gives a sh*t

Of coarse we did. It's EVERYONE'S first 5 seconds of Skyrim gameplay that hasn't been tweaked (like the trailer). Yes, the trailer was "gameplay" but it was done cinematically to make it look cool. So this is the first real gameplay.
Pretty exciting stuff.

We have a winner! :thumbsup:

Well, it matters when console players read his comments and expect a fluid 60FPS, and end up disappointed when they find the game usually runs at 30FPS. I'm pretty certain Oblivion was targeted to 30FPS on consoles... and it still had its dips into the teens.

I don't know why anyone would expect both a massive visual upgrade and a doubling of the FPS, either. It's more likely they kept the same FPS target, and worked on fitting more polygons onto the screen.

Well, it IS possible that Skyrim could have better FPS than Oblivion. It's all about prioritization regarding the engine. A badly prioritized engine = low FPS. A perfectly prioritized engine = great FPS.
How they use their new engine will denote the FPS of Skyrim, plain and simple. It can be either good, bad, or somewhere in between depending.

The variations in FPS relative to your enjoyment while playing the game is minimal. They aren't going to release a game that runs <20 FPS standard... so it doesn't matter.

Yes, if the visual quality of Skyrim were kept the same as its predecessor. This obviously isn't the case, so it seems to me they've taken every bit of optimization and used it to fit more detail into the same target FPS as Oblivion. Doing both that AND doubling the FPS would take considerable effort. 60FPS gives you 16.6ms to do everything. This is generally unattainable for most graphically intensive games (or CPU intensive for that matter). Almost all of the console games I've studied target around 30ms frame times, which equates to 30FPS. Even faster-paced games like FPSes often target 30ms frame times. Crysis 2 is one of them.

Wow, it's 5 pages again? I don't think there's anything new I could see in those vids.