Security vs. Resistance 5 : Othor Games

» Tue Dec 14, 2010 7:05 am

But, heading out takes away a huge chunk of the few resources they have.
Perhaps only 100 people survive. Maybe no one survives. Should they take that risk or rather stay were they are and hang on as long as possible. That is the big question. That's what they're fighting for.

Stay = Security
Leave = Resistance

You don't know what would happen in either case. It's the same in the real world: conservatives rather "stay" where they are (They don't want huge changes, they dislike change) while progressives try to get forward (They try new things). It's comparable to the resistance and the security.

True. Neither side is really right. But I just stick up for the side that seems to need to be stuck up for.

Another thing is that they apparently only agreed to these harsh conditions temporarily. But now its been going on for 20 years.

» Tue Dec 14, 2010 8:20 am

wrong, it's not that both sides are wrong, both sides are RIGHT!
i'd still say they'd better try and find more room

» Tue Dec 14, 2010 4:19 am

Another thing is that they apparently only agreed to these harsh conditions temporarily. But now its been going on for 20 years.

Good point.

It's a delicate situation. One wrong step could end it for either side, or maybe even for both.

» Tue Dec 14, 2010 2:54 am

Mercenary for the sole purpose "There is no wrong".

This would definitely be my choice but...there's a mercenary faction?

» Tue Dec 14, 2010 3:31 am

This would definitely be my choice but...there's a mercenary faction?

No, he means you'll be playing on both sides, as you see fit.

» Tue Dec 14, 2010 2:00 pm

Alright fine.

But still, the resources are going. In their eyes, they are slowly dying. Eventually, it will all be gone and everyone will be screwed.

They see the other option as go out into the world to see what is left. And see if they can find anything, something for them to live off. Instead of staying on the Ark and dying. And living in poverty while the founders hoard the water.

The Ark was designed at hold and maintance food/energy etc for 5000 and its renewable so its not going anywhere. Do they plan to build a boat and equipt it was enough food and water to get where?

Good point.

It's a delicate situation. One wrong step could end it for either side, or maybe even for both.

That's why things are on the Brink of chaos in Brink. :spotted owl:

» Tue Dec 14, 2010 12:29 am

The Ark was designed at hold and maintance food/energy etc for 5000 and its renewable so its not going anywhere. Do they plan to build a boat and equipt it was enough food and water to get where?

That's why things are on the Brink of chaos in Brink. :spotted owl:

Yeah it is renewable, but it doesn't renew fast enough apparently.

To look for somewhere else, somewhere else in the world that may possibly be there.

» Tue Dec 14, 2010 4:08 am

Yeah it is renewable, but it doesn't renew fast enough apparently.

To look for somewhere else, somewhere else in the world that may possibly be there.

Well yes designed for 5000 and now houses 50,000 kind of hard to make do even with all the additions that have been made by the Security.

» Tue Dec 14, 2010 7:45 am

Well yes designed for 5000 and now houses 50,000 kind of hard to make do even with all the additions that have been made by the Security.

"made by the Security"? the Security is a militia, the additions where made by constructors and scientists, possibly with help from the refugees(most likely the hardest and dirtiest jobs).

don't give those militias all the credit please :wink_smile:

» Tue Dec 14, 2010 2:29 am

"made by the Security"? the Security is a militia, the additions where made by constructors and scientists, possibly with help from the refugees(most likely the hardest and dirtiest jobs).

don't give those militias all the credit please :wink_smile:

Well the founders and hence the Security helped the refugees when they game. It's not like they had unlimited resources to put to the task.

» Tue Dec 14, 2010 4:29 am

Well the founders and hence the Security helped the refugees when they game. It's not like they had unlimited resources to put to the task.

the way i figure it, there wasn't even a Security at that time, perhaps there were some people of the security there, but not the Security faction as it exists in Brink.

and even so, the guys at the top, nor the security would help build, they're either above labour, or busy keeping the workers in check.

» Tue Dec 14, 2010 4:53 am

THe ark was an unfinished green project right? Would this conflict have happened had the island been finished?

» Tue Dec 14, 2010 3:12 am

THe ark was an unfinished green project right? Would this conflict have happened had the island been finished?

Yes.

» Tue Dec 14, 2010 7:10 am

Yes.

How so?

» Tue Dec 14, 2010 4:19 pm

How so?

Despite the fact that it isn't/is unfinished (not sure) it was still made only for 5,000 people, and now holds 50,000. And the refugees would still have lived in those poor conditions that they were told were temporary for 20 years. And still all those people would still eat up many of the resources.

» Tue Dec 14, 2010 5:07 am

Despite the fact that it isn't/is unfinished (not sure) it was still made only for 5,000 people, and now holds 50,000. And the refugees would still have lived in those poor conditions that they were told were temporary for 20 years. And still all those people would still eat up many of the resources.

But they were able to survive this long with the unfinished supplies. I can agree it wouldn't last, but the conflict would have at least been held off to a much further date. By then the waters might reseed and they could find land.

» Tue Dec 14, 2010 6:23 am

I'm a Security guy that thinks THE FOUNDERS are at fault.

» Tue Dec 14, 2010 11:16 am

I'm a Security guy that thinks THE FOUNDERS are at fault.

So you're basically trying to tackle the problem from the inside.

I don't think anyone is at fault, except humanity itself. If they/we didn't cause mother nature so much damage, this might not have happened in the first place. There would be no need to make an ark, there would be no sudden huge scale flood. (except if it's a natural caused climate change)

» Tue Dec 14, 2010 2:34 am

I'm not a fan of those Founders either. They sound like the greedy CEO's that run their companies into the ground, making the workers suffer while giving themselves huge bonuses. Although, on the other hand, even if the Founders did share their resources there most likely still wouldn't be enough to go around. The Founders would lose their stash, and within a week the refugees would be just as hungry and thirsty as before, only now they would complain more since they just had their expectations raised, then brought right back down.

» Tue Dec 14, 2010 4:47 am

When you're an operative in disguise you don't fear no big guy in a hockey mask covered in tattoos, you use SMART and climb over obstacles to get behind him then toss a grenade under his leg to blow his crotch.

Security for the win.

» Tue Dec 14, 2010 12:43 am

When you're an operative in disguise you don't fear no big guy in a hockey mask covered in tattoos, you use SMART and climb over obstacles to get behind him then toss a grenade under his leg to blow his crotch.

Security for the win.

if the big guy himself is an operative, you'd have been killed while trying to get behind him.
or if a pal of him nearby is a operative and he said your a operative in disguise, same scenario

» Tue Dec 14, 2010 2:53 pm

When you're an operative in disguise you don't fear no big guy in a hockey mask covered in tattoos, you use SMART and climb over obstacles to get behind him then toss a grenade under his leg to blow his crotch.

Security for the win.

And what is to stop resistance from doing something like that?

» Tue Dec 14, 2010 1:21 pm

Resistance. They look SO cool in the videos and from what I've seen of the avatars on the official website. Can't wait to be vaulting over roofs and whatnot, taking down any Security in my path in order to reach the objective.

» Tue Dec 14, 2010 3:58 am

me and my 4 team squad are running security, be afraid all ye terrorists, for with our defense the ark shall be safe!!

» Tue Dec 14, 2010 2:54 am

For grizzled mercenaries like me, all i want is money, guns, and a bucketload of missions from either side. Of course, myself, Wraith, Mad Hatter and other grizzled mercenaries or mercenaries with varying levels of grizzeldom are gonna take over everything anyway. It's inevitable.