[REL] Sensual Walks for Female NPCs : IV - Oblivion

» Fri May 20, 2011 8:49 am

Thanks to your help, Surazal, I now can enjoy not one but 4 different walks for my character.
And to think I played disabled Real Walk for over 6 months!

Big Fat Thank you. Kudos, and when you make the Sensual patch for Integration TSL, there is Fish&Chips and Guinnes for you.

Edit: found 2 corean mods tweaking Umpa and Mur_Zik's animations, created Corean Walks Pack but will test later. Too tired today - built my game, tweaked, tested.
Wrye Bash says play time 5:53. Enough is enough.

lol

Very pleased to have helped,

I have done Integration, but am waiting a respectable amount of time for a permission response from the author before releasing - will probably upload on Saturday if I still haven't heard anything.

» Fri May 20, 2011 5:20 pm

If you are using individual TNR race mods (eg TNR - The Redguards) as well as the Unofficial Oblivion Patch (UOP), you may want to take a look at http://www.gamesas.com/bgsforums/index.php?showtopic=1062633&view=findpost&p=15436272 number 3.

» Fri May 20, 2011 7:08 pm

Actually I am using bg2408 version coming with RBP named bgBalancingEVOptionalNPCDiversity, TNR Merge.esp
and would appreciate if you add support for this one too.
Thanks for the great job.
As I mentioned already since I finally saw Umpa and Mur_Zik's walks and your fine job, no way I go back to vanilla walks!

» Fri May 20, 2011 11:50 am

Actually I am using bg2408 version coming with RBP named bgBalancingEVOptionalNPCDiversity, TNR Merge.esp
and would appreciate if you add support for this one too.
Thanks for the great job.
As I mentioned already since I finally saw Umpa and Mur_Zik's walks and your fine job, no way I go back to vanilla walks!

That is quite a big job - especially since it would make sense to do all the NPC Diversity mods - will look into it. Having said that, if you use Wrye Bash, you can get the Sensual Walks with this mod as long as you create a Bashed Patch that includes the Sensual Walks mods with BOSS recommended tags applied (ie it will import the animations into the bashed patch and the RBP faces and inventory from Diversity esp) - assumes you have Oblivion Sensual Walks installed.

Thanks for the nice words.

» Fri May 20, 2011 10:21 pm

Thank you Surazal for your help. I really mean it.

May I ask you a question about Mayu's Animation Overhaul?
This mod turns into library importing all animations into game for all to use.
And in my game all NPC fight with DMC style, and are Seph style hand-to-hand fighting and Seph style acrobatic and walk with your walks.

In his readme Mayu says about recommended load order:
Oscuro's Oblivion Overhaul.esp -> if you use it
Martigen's Monster Mod.esp -> if you use it
AnyPlugins
AnyAnimationPlugins -> if you use any
Mayu's Animation Overhaul.esp
Streamline.esp -> if you use it
Bashed Patch.esp -> if you use it
Deadly Reflex.esp -> if you use it

BOSS places MAO well above this recommended place and above Better Cities.
Which way is more correct - BOSS or Mayu?
I will ask the same question in BOSS tread as well.

Thank you.

» Fri May 20, 2011 5:06 pm

Thank you Surazal for your help. I really mean it.

Which way is more correct - BOSS or Mayu?

Very glad I have been of some help.

Looking at the recommendations, I think that Streamline should be loaded after the bashed batch, so based on that inaccuracy, I would vote for BOSS recommendations unless proven to be incorrect (ie causes a problem) - BOSS load order does represent the wisdom of many contributors and is continually refined and enhanced.

Of course, as the author of BOMM and a big advocate of BOSS, I might be ever so slightly biased

» Sat May 21, 2011 1:38 am

May I ask you a question about Mayu's Animation Overhaul?

May I ask, how did you get this mod? Or have you just had it ages? I tried d'loading it from the site but the registration system fails

PS Also, great news for Integration patched. You da man! :tops:

PPS Guiness is Irish. A pint of Tim Taylor Landlord...now your talking!

» Fri May 20, 2011 2:27 pm

PPS Guiness is Irish. A pint of Tim Taylor Landlord...now your talking!

Actually, a pint of Old Hooky would be even better

Re Mayu: I seem to recall looking into it a while back (somewhere on the Nexus Sensual Walks forum) and found that it was not Sensual Walks compatible

Not 100% sure on this and have not tested with Wrye Bash's animation import feature - but thight it worth mentioning

» Fri May 20, 2011 10:58 am

I have been agonising over whether to...

Create Sensual Walks patches for the RBP NPC Diversity mods
Pros
- Simple to know what is and what isn't covered by Sensual Walks
- No change to the way Sensual Walks is applied to other mods
Cons
- Separate Sensual Walks patches need to be made for each RBP mod
- Permission needs to be granted for the Sensual Walks mods
- Takes time
Include information about Wrye Bash's ability to import the Sensual Walks animations so that they will be applied to any mod that changes Oblivion and Shivering Isles defined NPCs
Pros
- Sensual Walks will be applied to all of the RBP NPC Diversity mods without requiring any additional Sensual Walks mods
- Extends Sensual Walks coverage to any mod that changes standard (Oblivion and Shivering Isles) female NPCs without requiring additional patches
- Wrye Bash usage means that all Sensual Walks mods are merged into the Bashed Patch reducing the number of ESP slots used
Cons
- Requires Wrye Bash
- Requires knowing how to create a Bashed Patch
- Requires correct Bash Tags being applied to all Sensual Walks mod (or using BOSS to apply these changes)

I am leaning towards option 2, but thought I would solicit other opinions before proceeding.

I am very keen to get some feedback on which option I should adopt.

» Fri May 20, 2011 4:19 pm

Sensual Walks Version 5.4 Released

New and updated Sensual Walks Patches

Cyrodiil Travel Services version 2.0.1
Rumple Mod version 0.5
Better Looking Redguards version 1.2
Integration - The Stranded Light version 0.993

Other Changes
Installation script amended to support Cyrodiil Travel Services versions 2.0.1 and 1.3.1
BAIN folder structure reorganised to accommodate Cyrodiil Travel Services version detection
Important additions to the Recommendations section

Important Note for BAIN Users
You need to reselect your sub-packages as a result of the folder structure changes

See http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/readmes/Sensual%20Walks%20for%20Female%20NPCs_readme.txt for more information about changes made since the initial release.

» Fri May 20, 2011 10:07 pm

Hi, Surazal,
Sorry to make you agonize

Do you see my insicere smile?
Hope your agonies end in favor of supporting RBP as it is the ultimate core cosmetic overhaul and is gaining fans as we speak.
Thank you for RBP and all your walk.
Modders like you will keep this game alive for ever!

» Fri May 20, 2011 7:56 pm

Hi, Surazal,
Sorry to make you agonize

Do you see my insicere smile?
Hope your agonies end in favor of supporting RBP as it is the ultimate core cosmetic overhaul and is gaining fans as we speak.
Thank you for RBP and all your walk.
Modders like you will keep this game alive for ever!

Thanks for the kind words - very much appreciated.

It is not a question of whether to support RBP, simply how best to support it. Basically, if you use Wrye Bash and create a bashed patch, then you have RBP with Sensual Walks. So my question is really about whether it is necessary to create Sensual Walks patches for mods that you can apply Sensual Walks to by creating a bashed patch.

Thoughts....

» Fri May 20, 2011 7:04 pm

Thanks for the kind words - very much appreciated.

It is not a question of whether to support RBP, simply how best to support it. Basically, if you use Wrye Bash and create a bashed patch, then you have RBP with Sensual Walks. So my question is really about whether it is necessary to create Sensual Walks patches for mods that you can apply Sensual Walks to by creating a bashed patch.

Thoughts....

I guess not. You are right. One should not fix a thing that works smoothly. Fact.

» Fri May 20, 2011 11:29 am

I guess not. You are right. One should not fix a thing that works smoothly. Fact.

Thanks

For now I will go with the Wrye Bash approach - see http://www.gamesas.com/bgsforums/index.php?showtopic=1062633&view=findpost&p=15436272 number 4.

I am sure you will help me add to the list of mods covered by the bashed patch approach

» Fri May 20, 2011 3:25 pm

For people using Wrye Bash to install Sensual Walks

Wrye Bash v284 unchecks all the Sensual Walks mods when you build the bashed patch. As a result of this wonderful bit of automation, I have gone back to using OBMM to install the Sensual Walks mods - much easier and safer in terms of determining which Sensual walks mods to install and ensuring the correct version is used.

The only exception is "VHBloodlines 1.2 Vwalk.esp", which needs to be handled differently. I use a BOMM override to apply the Deactivate tag for this mod, which means the entire "uncheck" process is automated by building the bashed patch.

For those BAIN only people, I will continue to package the Sensual Walks BAIN ready archive as part of the download.

I hope you find this information useful.

» Fri May 20, 2011 8:33 pm

For people using Wrye Bash to install Sensual Walks

Wrye Bash v284 unchecks all the Sensual Walks mods when you build the bashed patch. As a result of this wonderful bit of automation, I have gone back to using OBMM to install the Sensual Walks mods - much easier and safer in terms of determining which Sensual walks mods to install and ensuring the correct version is used.

The only exception is "VHBloodlines 1.2 Vwalk.esp", which needs to be handled differently. I use a BOMM override to apply the Deactivate tag for this mod, which means the entire "uncheck" process is automated by building the bashed patch.

For those BAIN only people, I will continue to package the Sensual Walks BAIN ready archive as part of the download.

I hope you find this information useful.

What is wronjg with that?
Wrye bash unchecks them and tags them with Import Actor Anims + No Merge and for some patches from mods adding NPC faces it tags them additionally with Import NPC Faces
Is this wrong?
If you mean wthat all patches are unticked in Import Actors Anims, (I found this the hard way), you tick them back once only manually, then click on 'Save' before rebuilding the patch and next time it will be the way you want it.

» Fri May 20, 2011 3:58 pm

I've always used OBMM anyway, and I'm a BAIN-a-holic. Bain is just awesome, but some mods just require that scripted install, Sensual Walks being one of them

I know I'd miss several Vwalk plugins if I didn't use OBMM.

I also think using the Wrye Bash approach to add walks to RBP plugins is best. Especially if its easier for you!

» Fri May 20, 2011 11:56 pm

What is wronjg with that?
Wrye bash unchecks them and tags them with Import Actor Anims + No Merge and for some patches from mods adding NPC faces it tags them additionally with Import NPC Faces
Is this wrong?
If you mean wthat all patches are unticked in Import Actors Anims, (I found this the hard way), you tick them back once only manually, then click on 'Save' before rebuilding the patch and next time it will be the way you want it.

Absolutely nothing wrong - that was my point (obviously not very well explained). In my early days of WB usage, I had to uncheck all the Sensual Walks mods each time I ran the install - now with the latest version, WB does it for me automtically and that was what I was trying to share. Also, with the Select All option on the Bash Rebuild, it is even easier to make sure you have everything imported.

Basically, I was recommending an OBMM install rather than a BAIN one.

Tip: Exit OBMM before building the baahed patch to avoid check marks being reset after WB has unchecked them.

Edit:
@Torrello

Thanks - completely agree about BAIN (although I was using the BAIN installer to avoid the uncheck hassle)

The bashed approach for RBP is easier for me, but more importantly, means that people don't need to apply updates when there are changes to mods like RBP and have the benefit of being able to apply Sensual Walks to all overhaul mods without doing anything more than build a bashed patch - it is almost Sensual

» Fri May 20, 2011 8:41 pm

Absolutely nothing wrong - that was my point (obviously not very well explained). In my early days of WB usage, I had to uncheck all the Sensual Walks mods each time I ran the install - now with the latest version, WB does it for me automtically and that was what I was trying to share. Also, with the Select All option on the Bash Rebuild, it is even easier to make sure you have everything imported.

Basically, I was recommending an OBMM install rather than a BAIN one.

Tip: Exit OBMM before building the baahed patch to avoid check marks being reset after WB has unchecked them.

Edit:
@Torrello

Thanks - completely agree about BAIN (although I was using the BAIN installer to avoid the uncheck hassle)

The bashed approach for RBP is easier for me, but more importantly, means that people don't need to apply updates when there are changes to mods like RBP and have the benefit of being able to apply Sensual Walks to all overhaul mods without doing anything more than build a bashed patch - it is almost Sensual

Hi again. Missed me? With Daedric arrow in the head probably

One thing I know about Sensual Walk and remember it well: Sensual Walk Installer to be installed via OBMM, patches could be either OBMM or WB - no difference except OBMM installation saves you counting on your fingers the patches you need. (Oops, forgot The Ayleid Steps patch, uninstall, reinstall, BOSS. Oops this time I forgot malevolent, start again...)
The other thing - you told me to merge and use virtully active only, works like charm, no complaints, great mod.
You, Mur_Zik, Umpa, Skycaptain, DMC and Seph changed they way my Oblivion lads and lasses move in the world.

» Fri May 20, 2011 4:48 pm

Sensual Walks Version 5.5 Released

New and updated Sensual Walks Patches

Feldscar version 1.0.3
Fort Akatosh Redux version 1.3.2
Guards of Cyrodiil Redux version 1.02
Tamriel Transportation Network version 1.0

Other Changes
Installation script updated to deal with Tamriel Transportation Network variations.

See http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/readmes/Sensual%20Walks%20for%20Female%20NPCs_readme.txt for more information about changes made since the initial release.

» Fri May 20, 2011 12:30 pm

Thank you!
I just remembered that I had forgotten to install this on my new machine. Was waiting for Integration support but I will update when you get permission. EDIT - Okey, I just saw that it was included. That's great. END EDIT

And I will go the Wrye Bash way; it is the only way to fly.

Cheers!

» Fri May 20, 2011 4:40 pm

ooooh, update! Knob on! If only nexus was working :brokencomputer: i could go get it :angry:

» Sat May 21, 2011 4:06 am

Sensual Walks Version 5.6 Released

New and updated Sensual Walks Patches

Mystery of Mausoleum version 1.10.0609
Fireflys Extended Cities Mod version 1.0

Other Changes
None.

See http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/readmes/Sensual%20Walks%20for%20Female%20NPCs_readme.txt for more information about changes made since the initial release.

» Fri May 20, 2011 5:52 pm

Surazal,

I've been using your mod, Sensual Walks, for several months. Great stuff.

However, I've recently added Banana Better Cities to my game. If I load BC (latest version; BloodMudBravil version), and then install Sensual Walks vers 5.5, my game hangs on loading. I'm using Boss list 5/29 to order my load. If I remove Sensual Walks, the game loads fine.

According to your version history, SW 5.5 should have a patch/fix for BC. Do I need to download something else? I see BOSS is at a June version now. Will that fix it? Note that I use OBMM, etc. That is, I don't try and do manual mod installs (used to, but got too lazy : )

Here is my load order (without SW). I'll try and use the quote function to hide it : )

Oblivion.esm
Windfall.esm
TR_OoT_Main.esm
Jog_X_Mod.esm
EnhancedWeather.esm
Francesco's Leveled Creatures-Items Mod.esm
MD_Saddle_Master.esm
Better Cities Resources.esm
CM Partners.esm
Younger Hotter NPC's v1.0.esp
Colourwheels sixy Female NPCs.esp
Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp
UOP Vampire Aging & Face Fix.esp
Oblivion Citadel Door Fix.esp
DLCShiveringIsles.esp
Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp
Better Cities .esp
Natural_Habitat_by_Max_Tael.esp
EnhancedWeather.esp
EnhancedWeather - Darker Nights, 50.esp
Natural_Water_by_Max_Tael.esp
AmbientTownSounds.esp
MIS Low Wind.esp
PCSoundCalisto.esp
Storms & Sound.esp
WindowLightingSystem.esp
Akatosh Mount By Saiden Storm.esp
nmDLTIC-1-6.esp
ChaseCameraMod.esp
Days&Months.esp
DS Time Manager.esp
Luchaire's Neck Seam Concealer.esp
DLCHorseArmor.esp
DLCOrrery.esp
DLCVileLair.esp
DLCMehrunesRazor.esp
MaleBodyReplacerV4.esp
AAbuiesdaqun.esp
Adonnays Elven Weaponry.esp
alllll61-Tiny Demon suit.esp
ALE_Armure_Legere.esp
BisPainBringer.esp
Dancers clothes.esp
DarkIllusionArmor.esp
Diano.esp
Deceiver's Armour.esp
HGEC_Draconic_Armor.esp
EY_AoD.esp
FB_Dark_Crusader_01.esp
Growlfs Hot Clothes.esp
Hentai_Apple.esp
HentaiDarkLilith.esp
IvyArmor_Full.esp
LadyDeath.esp
Lockbreaker.esp
ShadowWatcher_HGEC_v2_b.esp
SG003_Slit.esp
SG005_DHuntress.esp
TreasuresOfTyrV10.esp
Vampirepotions_MRCHAINSAW_.esp
Arctic Gear Improved.esp
ShadowWatcher_HGEC_v2.esp
Velveteen_Armor_HGEC.esp
StockClothingArmorHGECnormalD.esp
sixyKunoichi.esp
Colourwheels sixy Stock Armor & Clothing Replacer.esp
Colourwheels sixy SI Armor & Clothing Replacer.esp
Argent Iron Armor.esp
DianoArmor2.esp
Dark_Mistress.esp
Slof's Horses Base.esp
Command Mount.esp
MD Saddlebags v3.0.esp
DLCThievesDen.esp
Francesco's More Wilderness Life.esp
Francesco's Optional Leveled Guards.esp
Francesco's Optional House Chest Loot.esp
Francesco's Optional New Adventurers.esp
Nightshade_Armor.esp
Halcyon Island.esp
Adventurers farm.esp
Bruma Hunting Lodge.esp
FishermansCottage.esp
GwedenBrothel.esp
GwedenExpansion.esp
Halcyon House.esp
Horse Dreamland.esp
Jeral View Chalet.esp
Kragenir's Death Quest.esp
KDQ - Rural Line Additions.esp
Kragenirs_WhiteStallion_Compat.esp
latexshopstore.esp
Naughty_Joana_01.esp
PrincessImperialCityApartment.esp
runestone.esp
thievery.esp
TR_Stirk.esp
Stirk_Compatibility_Patch.esp
Apachii_Goddess_Store.esp
Villages1.1.esp
Windfall.esp
DLCBattlehornCastle.esp
DLCfrostcrag.esp
Knights.esp
Blood&Mud.esp
Feldscar.esp
MTCThievesGrottoV4.1.esp
xuldarkforest.esp
xulStendarrValley.esp
xulTheHeath.esp
XulEntiusGorge.esp
xulFallenleafEverglade.esp
xulColovianHighlands_EV.esp
ThievesGrotto-ColovianHighlands patch.esp
xulChorrolHinterland.esp
xulBeachesOfCyrodiilLostCoast.esp
KragenirsDeathQuest-LostCoast patch.esp
xulBravilBarrowfields.esp
xulLushWoodlands.esp
xulAncientYews.esp
xulAncientRedwoods.esp
xulCloudtopMountains.esp
KragenirsDeathQuest-CloudtopMountains patch.esp
xulArriusCreek.esp
xulPatch_AY_AC.esp
xulRollingHills_EV_withoutWheat.esp
KragenirsDeathQuest-RollingHills patch.esp
xulPantherRiver.esp
Blood&Mud-PantherRiver patch.esp
xulRiverEthe.esp
xulBrenaRiverRavine.esp
xulImperialIsle.esp
xulBlackwoodForest.esp
xulCheydinhalFalls.esp
Blood&Mud-CheydinhalFalls patch.esp
Villages-CheydinhalFalls patch.esp
xulAspenWood.esp
xulSkingradOutskirts.esp
bartholm.esp
Bartholm-Panther River Patch.esp
Natural_Vegetation_by_Max_Tael.esp
Harvest [Flora].esp
Harvest [Flora] - Shivering Isles.esp
Badmagic - Landscape Fix for 20 -18.esp
Colourwheels sixy Imperial Legion.esp
GP_Lockpicks.esp
Kosai's Welkynd Armor.esp
Oblivifall - Ambiant Dungeon SFX.esp
MCaleb's_Decompose_Corpse_v1.2.esp
Short Grass V3.esp
SkycaptainsBloodTime.esp
Unlimited Amulets and Rings - Shivering Isles.esp
CompanionResurrect.esp
SetEssentialActors.esp
Telekinetic Mastery.esp
SetBody.esp
MidasSpells.esp
ZumbsLockpickingMod - OBSE.esp
BountyReductionOverTime_standard.esp
sycHearNoEvil.esp
Enhanced Grabbing.esp
Denock Arrows.esp
RealisticLeveling.esp
SW01.esp
_darker_dungeons.esp
_Ren_BeautyPack_onlyhairs.esp
CuteElf11.esp
Ahtata Arquamer female got hair.esp
ahtata Ork.esp
CM Partners.esp
CM Partners NPC.esp
KT_CustomRaceFix.esp
Better Cities Full - B&M Edition.esp
BCBravilB&MFULL-Barrowfields patch.esp
BCCheydinhalFULLB&M-CheydinhalFalls patch.esp
BCSkingrad-SkingradOutskirts patch.esp
Better Cities - Thievery.esp
Better Imperial City.esp
Better Cities - No LEYAWIIN Flooding.esp
Better Cities - Halcyon Island.esp
[GFX]_Initial_Glow-self.esp
SWalk.esp
Streamline 3.1.esp
TrawlolsCorinthianPitFighter.esp
SMYB Full.esp
Latexshop7huntress.esp
HGEC_Companionmail.esp
BisBarbLthr.esp
TrawlolsCorinthianGladiator.esp
SN_Skingrad_Villa.esp
Leina Armor.esp
CompanionTracker.esp
FranMWL-TheHeath patch.esp
mECB_Collection.esp
The Dragon Princess.esp
the farm house 4.0.esp
Latexshop4 sixy Chaps.esp
SwordDancer.esp
ANBDraqeTop.esp
ElvenPrincess.esp
ImriSmHouse01.esp

Let me know if I can do something to get it to work.

Thanks,

Tarl

» Sat May 21, 2011 4:24 am

Let me know if I can do something to get it to work.

Thanks for letting me know. I have just done some testing and there does seem to be a problem. I am looking into it now.

btw, if you enclose your LO in spoiler tags ([ spoiler]load ordr[ /spoiler] without the space after the [), it will hide the text unless clicked.

Update

I can't get my saved game to load with the B&M version of Better Cities - CTD when loading my saved game. Sensual Walks not installed. I will have to see why I can't get BC B&M running before I can even look into Sensual Walks - will probably continue looking tomorrow.