Separate Mod Esp's Conflicting As One? : IV

» Wed Sep 01, 2010 10:29 am

Hey, I posted this problem in the DR6 thread but it was more of a problem for just me and not a bug from DR6 so I thought I would make a thread for it instead. Basically, I am having a problem with two mods, "Better Blocking" and "DR6 Timed Block". Somehow both mods have merged together or something so that one will not work without the other. I am basically trying to use DR6 Timed Block but it will not work unless I also have Better Blocking active as well. If I remove Better Blocking Timed Block will not work at all. I have thought of a few possibilities like the Better Blocking setting changes such as fBlockMax/SkillMult/etc were saved into the Oblivion.esm or were somehow merged with one of the two mods? I couldn't find anything noticeable opening each mod up.

I loaded my order just in case, but I am pretty sure its just a conflict between these two mods like they somehow merged or something... but that would make no sense because I constantly replaced them and rebashed many times and clean saves.

Here is also just the general list details of both. Looking at it, and the fact both their masters are oblivion.esm, maybe BetterBlocking setting changes is somehow still stuck in the esm? i dunno, just a guess.

DR6 Timed Block

GMST  01000800 fBlockMax  01000803 fBlockSkillBase  01000804 fBlockSkillMultQUST  01000805 SkycaptainsBlockScriptSCPT  01000CEA SkycaptainsBlockTimer

Better Blocking

CLOT  01000ED7 aaaBetterBlockingTokenGLOB  0100235C aadurationMult  0100235E aahandtohandItemMult  0100235B aaitemDegradeMult  01002356 aaitemHoldFatigueBase  01002357 aaitemHoldFatigueWeightMult  01002354 aaitemLiftFatigueBase  01002355 aaitemLiftFatigueWeightMult  01002360 aalateBlockMult  0100235F aaminBlockChance  01002359 aashatterCutoff  0100235A aashatterMult  01002358 aastrikeFatigueDamageMult  0100235D aaweaponItemMultGMST  01000ED3 fBlockAmountHandToHandMult  01000ED4 fBlockAmountWeaponMult  01000ED5 fBlockMax  01000ED6 fBlockScoreNoShieldMultQUST  010015AB aaaBetterBlockingQuestSCPT  010015AC aaaBetterBlockingQuestScript  010015AD aaaBetterBlockingTokenScript

Thanks!

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» Wed Sep 01, 2010 3:19 pm

Both of them modify the same Gameplay Setting (fBlockMax), so which ever one loads last is the one that will show the change.