EDIT: The Septim Bloodline, just felt like posting this up for fun, sorry if someone already did what i did before me!

EDIT: don't know if its supposed to be here but if a moderator can more it to the Elder Scrolls Lore thread it would be great! (Don't know how to contact a moderator) This Topic is for the People that are new to the Elder Scrolls Series and that don't know much about their Emperors and Empresses!

EDIT: if you manage to read all of it feel free to post up a reply and tell me if im missing anyone other then Uriel XII's three sons.


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Thanks for the bloodline. The only question I have is that I don't think Uriel sired Martin as part of a plan; I get the feeling it was accidental. It seems more likely to me that the Emperor didn't foresee his death until his last few months or weeks of life. It was probably just luck (or fate?) that the illegitimate, unplanned Martin existed. Granted, that's only my take on it.

Edit: After rereading the dev Ken Rolston's contribution as Caius Cosades, I'm less sure. Here: http://www.imperial-library.info/obscure_text/cosades_visit.shtml

The Emperor had the mother, Gemile, hidden. But I still don't think he had foreseen his death yet.

that was helpful thanks, if anyone has anymore info on the Septim Family members please post them up on this topic and you will have my thanks

EDIT: did you really read all of it?

I have to admit I skimmed it so far, except for the parts on the first and last emperor(s).

hahahaha i would have done the same thing if you posted it up, if someone can read all of it without skimming along the pages ill send you something through pm

I have a feeling I read this somewhere before, but that might of course, have been because you wrote it wherever I read it.

the grammar is a bit iffy in parts. i'm also not sure how exactly this differs from/improves upon the Brief History of the Empire, which presents essentially the same information.

Hmmm, this seems a good a place as any for a shameless plug of my own attempt to write an elaborate history of the Empire: http://www.gamesas.com/bgsforums/index.php?showtopic=986193. It was a giant 50,000 word look at the Emperors from Pelagius to Katariah, but I think it was probably too wordy. For some reason no one wanted to read ten pages of made up history about Uriel I.

Anyway, I'm obviously one of those who is very interested in the political history of Tamriel and always up for discussing it.

I'd put a thing about TES:II Daggerfall for Uriel Septim VII

Be sure to note the break in the lineage after Pelagius I.

How do it works along with the Dragonfires and the Septim's bloodlines as it is obvious it was broken two or three times?

The Dragonfires is a symbolic ritual, and the ancestry requirement is a simplification/crock.

I know a lot more mostly on Pelagius III if you want to know.

P.S. Bored I actually did read it all.

Damn Septims. :meh: But seriously, Andorak Septim's blood line would have first claim to the throne right, I mean their the only Septims left, post Oblivion crisis. I think the council would pardon his heritage and declare his family and descendants offically of Septim blood and allegable for the throne. Unless Ocato follows in my footsteps. :bowdown: Or the council and majority of Tamriel dosen't agree with it.

Maybe. For the story of Oblivion to work we have to assume that no Septim from Tiber to Uriel VII ever had a sibling that didn't become Emperor, including Uriel VII. This is incredibly unlikely in royal families. More likely there are dozens of legitimate Septims floating around, and maybe hundreds of illegitimate heirs who could claim Septim blood.

Where did Cephorus II come from, for example? Obviously there were other Septim branches floating around. Pelagius III had a sister, Joelethe--odds are her descendants are still alive and kicking. Not to mention any siblings that Kintyra I, Uriel I, Uriel II, or Pelagius II may have had. So there are plenty of Septim heirs to go around, and that's not even taking into consideration the fact that Uriel's kids were all pushing 60--it strains believability that there aren't numerous grandchildren of Uriel floating around.

In real life, it would be unlikely not to have numerous illegitimate and legitimate heirs. I think that through "Oblivion", though, the devs are trying to nail home the idea that the Septim line is finished. I get the feeling that a new bloodline will win the Ruby Throne -- though whether it will be one that has the mandate of the gods or just be started by someone ambitious will be interesting to see.

what? wasn't really paying attention to you guys, this Topic took me 3 months to write everything out! lots of reading, seeing what i missed and missing, went through 34 pens.

There are definitely plenty of descendants of Tiber Septim running around. If I interpret a particular statement by a certain agent of the Underking we encounter in Daggerfall correctly (something about how a "true descendant of Tiber Septim cannot be hidden from the Underking" in reference to the true cause of King Lysandus' death), Daggerfall royalty has blood ties to the Septim line. And they're probably not the only ones.

http://elderscrolls.wikia.com/wiki/Septim_bloodline

anyways, maybe Tamriel has some weird rules about inheritance that prevent more distant relatives from claiming the throne? or maybe the elder council is just making up excuses to seize power? meh, its just not very well thought out.

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