Wow, whatever respect I had for you just faded away.

I don't know where you got "millenium" and "dunmer" and "Goro" from.

I'm not angry either. I'm not actually sixist either, its just this one thing. In my games I can't play a female because it feels unrealistic. In real life I would not say its unrealistic at all. (Unless its one of Michelle Rodriguez's characters, those are [censored]).



Are you serious? :mellow: I truthfully have to say that makes me feel pretty bad.

edit: Just making sure you understand: I know 100% that this is the wrong way of thinking. 100%.

This is the part that gets me.

'Realistic' in life and 'not realistic' in a game with magic spells, elves, and undead vampires.
I would say it was more realistic in a game... we have loads of female heroines in fiction!


Are you just uncomfortable roleplaying as a girl, when you are a guy? Because if that's all it is... nothing wrong with that!

ill have 2 characters, a Warrior Male Nord, and a Rogue/Ranger Female Nord (or possibly redguard, havent really decided which race my female char will be)

No thats not it. I honestly don't know what it is. I'm not sixist in any other sense, just in RPGs.

In Oblivion I dare say I mastered the face gen and was able to make extremely attractive individuals, females included. Just once I started playing with them the guards would say "Good evening ma'am." And I would think "Why is this woman who is as beautiful as Megan Fox walking into the city wearing a full suit of heavy armor and wielding a claymore? She should be doing something else. ANYTHING else.

Im starting to hate this side of me btw.


Edit: And I really want to know, do I sound like a total [censored] with these posts? I can see how I would. And did Gromm sound serious?

I know you know you're wrong for thinking this, but do you know why you think it, or is it just something in your head.

I'm a guy and I'm 100% against sixism, it actually kinda pisses me off, I don't know why. I have some examples of BA and amazing female characters in recent games:

Miranda Lawson from ME (I have a very unatural attraction to her)
Liara T'soni from ME
Leliana from Dragon Age
Lightning from Final Fantasy XIII
Tali Zorah vas Normandy from ME
Trishka Novak from Bulletstorm
Anya Stroud from Gears of War series
Sam Byrne from Gears of War series
Bernadette Mataki from Gears of War series

EPIC actually makes it a point for there female characters to be awesome.

EDIT: Oh, and a FemShep from ME and a female Warden from Deagon Age are amazing as well.

Trishka! :wub:

She is probably second on the unatural attraction list, but I think I'm obssesed with Miranda

There's your problem. I ABSOLUTELY HATE ARMOUR (AND TWO-HANDED WEAPONS) :shakehead:.

Ditch the armour, stick with robes or light clothing. Use your incredible nimbleness to escape from anything magic won't shield you from. Stick a dagger in your hand or a short-sword. Use enchantments or poisons to deal the damage, not strength. Potions can be used to pump your pretty girl full of steroids and magical awe... but that's emergency use only!


The goal is to never get hit so your pretty face will never any bear scars... with intense amounts of magic protecting you from the odd glancing blow. Err towards playing a pacifist, not a tank!

I don't know why I think it, trust me I know its COMPLETELY wrong. But you see, what you posted there... its all video games. Believe me I am 100% against any kind of prejudice. I hate it when my friends do stupid things to girls at school, I can't stand people using "gay" as an adjective and I got so pissed off at my friend's cousin when he told me his cousins in Iran thought of black people as a disease. I hate all that stuff, truly I do. This is the only place where I feel uncomfortable about it. And as I said, I am against my current way of thinking on this matter. Its just the way I think.



Sounds like you are joking but I will reply anyway, for me, it feels almost wrong to be putting the female character in the position of needing to fight for her life willingly.

Every time I post Im just digging my grave even deeper.

Oh, you have no idea...



Depends on the character, it's a possibility for two them, if the right person comes along. The third is more of a "casual acquaintance" type



Nah, i know better than to expect that from an american M-rated game, at most there'll be a fade-to-black and sound effects like in New Vegas.



I can understand that, and somewhat even feel the same way. However that is a reason why i play strong female characters, to challenge that way of thinking. Also why i like Alien as much as i do

Are you me?

Let's keep it appropriate guys (and girls). If whatever you have planned for your heroine wouldn't be broadcast on cartoon network, then it's unlikely we approve of it either.

I don't know........ am I? :blink:

To get in touch with our......................... feminine side :whistling:




It's spelt heroine.

Let's just say Eric Clapton knows a fair bit about heroin

Edit: got it!

Im not that much of a serious RPer and dont really view my characters as an extension or portrait of myself. I dont really try to get in my characters head.

I would say its the people who cant deal with playing as a female in games that are the ones with the issue, not the other way round. Are you afraid to wear a pink shirt?

Looks like it.

I don't for most of my characters, but my first, and main character, I base his personality off of mine. The only game I have a hard time playing a different mindset in is Mass Effect. I just for some reason can't pick Paragon dialouge and actions.

Soon the human race will be entirely androgynous.

We'll all be amorphous blobs injecting ourselves full of TES: XXVII.

Honestly, she will be an ordinary woman, which may or may not fall in love with a NPC...
I've been playing tabletop RPGs for many years and I grew used to my "Girl PCs" getting involved with someone in-game...
So for me, it doesn't feel weird at all...

As of why I play as female, well, on tabletop RPG I find it more amusing to roleplay a female (since the emphasys in in roleplay, roleplaying a female is much more different and much more difficult)...
On Oblivion I played as a female Imperial, which at the end of her journey went to Skyrim in search for a mystical artifact, there she eventually married and had descendants, one of which will be my Dovahkiin. (That's how I intent to roleplay it).

I personaly have no response to the beginning of your post, but I now look to the day I play The Elder Scrolls 27, I hope I'm still alive to see that happen.

IRL I've got three sons, a partner I think is beautiful, and play in a hard drinking Irish band. That's me. My character in a game has nothing to do with me. That's why I play as a woman all the time; same reason I almost always play mages, more interesting to me to role play someone very different to myself. While I identify in a way with the characters, that's all they are, characters in a game. It's like rooting for Ripley when you watch Aliens. Given that, I can't think of any reason why one of my characters marrying a man should make me at all uncomfortable.

Not just sixist (yes, that) but also flat out wrong. History proves this, as does any clear-headed examination of humanity as it stands.

If "Joan of Arc is the only case [you] can think of to the contrary"... you really do need to educate yourself, preferably before holding forth on this topic ever again. As much to save yourself the embarrassment of revealing such amazing ignorance, as anything along more social/selfless lines.

Whilst I'm glad to see that the community is accepting of both female and male players/characters :nod:... I don't need think there's any need to keep attacking him when he's already said his opinion is 'wrong' himself, with regret, many times already!
I would place it anologous to... yes... incist... the person knows it's wrong but cannot hold back their feelings!

Not that I'm advocating for him or anything...

MASS EFFECT 2 SPOILER



So in actual fact, I can definitely see my Skyrim char doing a similar thing.