You know we have had a few discussions about imerssion. And I have heard the argument, about using someone's imagination to immerse oneself in the game. I already got a thread about how much is it the player's imagination and how much effort the DEV puts in the game for immersion.

I've stumbled across something that to me, is the ultimate immersion breaking. I just....

Some of the Nordic ruins are undiscovered or newly discovered by some intrepid explorer. One of them near Riften, I just....I give up on this game. I seriously....wth.

We have Ancient Nordic weapons, Ancient Nordic armor, the draugr are ancient nords.

And I find two draugr body with Imperial Armor on their corpses. They were the dead, don't get up kind. I seriously had to turn off my system off after that. How am I suppose to imagine that away?

This is an ancient tomb, that hasn't been touched by people for centuries. And...they had brand new, non ancient imperial armor on their body. I cannot even....omg. Seriously. I just...*throws hands up in air and walks away from thread* I give up. This game is perfect and not flawed in any way. My apologies for so many threads pointing out the flaws.

I can honestly say that I've never run across draugr dressed in anything but draugr stuff. And if they're not draugr weapons, they're generic (i.e. Iron Axe).

These were dead draugrs, the kind that don't get up, that aren't in the ancient nordic gear, just naked.

With Non Ancient Imperial Armor, in their dead corpse inventory, in a Nordic Ruin Just Discovered. And No one Had Entered the Chambers from what I assume of the journal entry and the way the dialogue went.

So they had no contact with the outside world for centuries. So, how the hell did they get imperial armor in their inventory at all?

Did you see some imperial soldiers running about naked?

Random loot! Granted they always seem to have the legion armor now that I think of it, so it's not really random loot.

Magic! Or someone actually broke in without telling anyone they did, it happens.

I've never encountered it either, but maybe... A few Imperials happened upon the ruins a few years ago, got killed by the draugr and had their bodies put in place, maybe because they can be used to create new draugr later?

When you read the journal. She just started mining down there. It wasn't like it was opened. This place had been blocked by rock and debri for centuries. That's how it sounded in the journal entry and the way her dialogue said.

Not I discovered this place already discovered. I discovered this place finally at last and can begun exuming it.

Well I've never come across that issue. I check every corpse for lockpicks and loose change too, heh. I have several loot mods though, so I concede that some of them might have made the distribution a little less random.

Yeah, that would kind of ruin that theory, haha. I don't recall the ruin myself, so... At least with some it's probably workable-- like say bleak falls barrow, I can imagine people going up there now and again, and disappearing, and so there'd be a steady-ish supply of 'newer' weapons showing up for a while, and then periods of isolation until the disappearances became 'just silly stories' again.

Where did you find them? Inside or out?

Inside the very locked, very sealed door that required a key.

It had a dark elf lady.

It's just random loot. There is an imperial bow in Ysgramor's tomb but that is fixed loot.

I have no problem with finding elven, orcish, dwarven and imperial stuff in Nordic ruins because it is how the radiant system works. sure it is wierd finding that stuff but it's not enough to make me quit.

I actually had a response to this. And decided to give up halfway.

Imperial armor troubles you yet having septims (or fresh food or books written recently) in equally ancient tombs or other places which were locked down?

if you have so many issues with the game, maybe TES is just not your type of game

I have problems with that too.

I've made fun of it before.

Oblivion was even worse...

I have played

Arena and Daggerfall

I have played Morrowind and Oblivion

All which I like.

In Skyrim. I tend to have a love hate relationship. I have explained this before. When I love it I love it. But when it makes me mad I hate it.

Haha, that's why I just "go with the flow" there's probably an explanation, but I don't really care for that matter.

It was! The leveling loot was pretty bad, level 20 and everyone and their mother was wearing a full set of deadric armor.

For what purpose, exactly ? Bethesda has moved on - they've finished with Skyrim.

Most of the issues I have with Skyrim have been addressed via mods. I still enjoy it, warts and all. If a game gives me grief, I play something else.

Nobody's forcing you to play it

Errr, don't know how many people care or if I have to copy.

I was diagnosed with Aspergers, when it was Aspergers. Now it's all squashed into one diagnosis, either way.

For me, there are some contigencies that have to be followed. Because of my specific literal way of thinking.

Barrows= Nords. Because of the lore and things. I don't mind ghost, skeletons or that sort of thing. But for contigency, for lore, for what I read. And for the perimeters of the quest this was not something I expected and it bothers me.

I personally never had a problem with levelled system of Oblivion, tbh it made more sense than Skyrims. Skyrims is just way to random for me, in one area I'm quicking butt in another area I'm getting my butt handed to me. It's ridiculous. I rather the world level with me, than have levels all over the place. but preference.

Suggestions for the next game belong in the Elder Scrolls series forum, in the next game thread.

Hope you can find a game you can enjoy with the level of detail you want. Skyrim isn't going to change at this point. Listing all of the issues you have found won't do much now. The place to post these things would be in the next game thread; there will be a better chance of someone actually taking it into consideration since, if they are working on it at all, its still in the planning stages.

This isn't a suggestion. This isn't even a thread about asking anything. Seriously this is just a rant.

What dungeon was this?? I would like to go and see this for myself. Do you remember??

Errrr....let me see.

It's in the Rift.

Near a mill.

It's starts like Avnu...I think. I cannot exactly remember remember. It may have just been random loot, but it bothered me.