Sermon 14 of Vivec

Post » Fri May 24, 2013 5:50 am

So I've heard that this chapter is very sixual, and that "spear" is actually Vivec refering to genetalia (?). Is this correct? it can't be, can it? please tell me it isn't! After reading it and seeing this I feel rather...disturbed. Please shine some light on this for me guys!

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Dan Wright
 
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Post » Fri May 24, 2013 5:30 am

Everything relating to Vivec is sixual in one way or another. So I don't know what sermon you're referring to off the top of my head, but the answer is always "yes." Understand that the entire series is one big double entendre.

I suppose that I should admit that this is the simplified answer. It's a little more complicated than this, but this is the general idea.

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ezra
 
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Post » Fri May 24, 2013 7:37 am

Yup. 14 is not just about six, but it is about six.

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Alyesha Neufeld
 
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Post » Fri May 24, 2013 1:27 am

Huh... I don't think its even very well hidden. Read the sermon. Molag Bal is the King of ____?

There's also this pretty straight forward bit:

And the unambiguous...

This doesn't mean they were cuddling.

And then of course there is the fact that monster-children were born due to this episode.

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Post » Fri May 24, 2013 7:55 am

I know it's supposed to be sixual, but the spear thing just feels too far! I mean, things like this just made me feel a little bit sick:

"Here is why: The Velothi and demons and monsters that were watching all took out their own spears. There was much biting and the earth became wet. And this was the last laugh of Molag Bal:"
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Post » Fri May 24, 2013 9:43 am

Welcome to the 36 Lessons of Vivec. ;)

http://fc06.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2011/205/4/b/nerevar_grab_my_spear_by_lady_nerevar-d41k7jx.jpg

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Post » Thu May 23, 2013 6:42 pm

The author is just continuing a long tradition of mythology and entertainment, The Silent Shadow. Did you ever cringe when hearing about how Zeus, in the form of a bull, copulated with the mortal maiden Europa? Or how Marduk sliced apart Tiamat, using his grissly trophies to construct the world out of her dead body? Or how (King) David slayed one-hundred Philistine men so that he can harvest the foreskins of their pencses?

People have always had guilty fascination with six and violence, so it appears a lot in our earliest stories, and has given them lasting power as cultural artifacts. MK is just gleefully partaking in this tradition.

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Post » Fri May 24, 2013 9:51 am


I've actually been into them for quite a while and have noticed many sixual references. It's just that the spear thing felt a lot more worse than anything else there for me. I've never read it like that before now...
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Sophie Morrell
 
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Post » Fri May 24, 2013 6:21 am

Ah, the Pomegranate Banquet is all in good fun. It's the treatment of Barfok and Azura that gets me queasy. :(

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Sara Lee
 
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Post » Fri May 24, 2013 2:55 am

There's an uncomfortably erotic corner in every myth and religion. The difference here is that the author probably laughed his spear off writing about it. Both the in-universe one and the real-universe one.

The in-universe author weaponized his genitals. He is also Caligula, half a woman, and his head is on fire. Be glad it was just spears.

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Post » Fri May 24, 2013 4:43 am

Ya, talk about that.

Good things happened last time.

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