Well I just thought of something unusual from oblivion. In the shivering isles expansion you become sheogorath.(I think it's been a while since I played) Do you think that in skyrim when you go to his statue or somehow meet him you will see one of your old characters from oblivion??? Sort of like mass effect 2 did on consoles? (not sure about on pc since I'm not a pc gamer ) if so would you like or dislike that idea why or why not?

If Oblivion's PC became Sheogorath, he can take on any form he wants to, and any voice. He's a Daedra, he can do that.

No, i think it is a bad idea. That is why i don't like it.

Well, apparently your guy became the new Sheo and for the past two centuries slowly turned into a younger version of Sheo with an Irish accent. And, if I'm not mistaken, he'll actually help you.

I don't mind. I'll be thinking, "I remember you! You're Gregreo! I played you back in Oblivion!"

that would actually be really awesome, but I don't think that will be included

I'm guessing that, as he's a god, he'll take some sort of alternate form - maybe like old-style, maybe totally different.

Plus, will it really matter what he looks like? The Shrine will probably stay intact for 200 years, so they might not have even changed it.

I'm thinking that he will be just like in the other games.

The CoC has probably slowly turned into the old Sheo over time.

No wont happen. All the games make a point of keeping the hero from the previous game a "mystery" and it seems like a lot of trouble for something so small. No, if we encounter Sheogorath's statue, it will still look like him, and if we encounter him in person, he could choose to look like anyone. We don't even know if 200 years from now that your character is still going to be the Mad God, someone else could have taken the mantle.

The feature would be to much work for just that, and if it was in, or there was more content connected to it, I guarantee we would have heard about it in this issue of Game Informer.

True...you gotta admit that would be cool though..

Not really intersested.
I think they should implement one of the other gods or Daedric prince instead.
Mephala would be cool.

Sheogorath really isn't all that impressive anyway.

Sorry to breaking this to you guys,but Sheogorath doesn't exist anymore as Sheogorath.
When you finish the Shivering Isles,it appears that Sheogorath was Jyggalag,and that you (the player) broke his curse and set him free,from not becoming Sheogorath again.
Sheogorath was a forced transformation by the other Deadric Princes to Jyggalag,and since the curse was broken Jyggalag is still Jyggalag,and I don't think he will ever trasform again to Sheogorath.

But we may find statues of Jyggalag at Skyrim...
Who knows ?

Well you didn't BECOME Sheogorath... you just became lord of the isles...

I don't see it happening. If anything, the statue will look just like Sheogorath did before your character took his throne so they don't have to both with searching for old saves to pull character data from. Explanation would be that having become Sheogorath, your old character became Sheogorath or some such. Not really worth the trouble for what amounts to just an amusing easter egg anyway, really. :shrug:

but in the lore on the uesp it says "Jyggalag thanks the player for breaking the cycle and dubs him the "new" Sheogorath, Prince of Madness."
is it true

Yes but you still didn't turn into a Daedric prince... and therefor you won't have the immortality nor true power of Sheogorath, so the title is more of a... well... title... and ingame Sheogorath states himself that even though you'll not become a Daedric prince you'll still become him... or in other words take his place...

I have a wager that Haskill backstabs your character and becomes the new Sheogorath.

I have a theory that the PC only becomes the Champion of Cyrodill and other characters make up the other guild roles and dlc roles that's just a theory

At the end of shivering isles the player is actually referred to AS sheogorath, quote, "you are now sheogorath, prince of madness". This makes me think "sheogorath" is actually more a title which translates in someway to "prince of madness" or something as opposed to an actual name.

This makes sense as sheogorath is actually Jyggalag and under the curse becomes the prince of madness ie. Sheogorath. When the player defeats Jyggalag and breaks the curse they become the prince of madness ie. Sheogorath.

Since the player is also mortal it could be assumed that between oblivion and skyrim whenever the players character dies the mantle of "prince of madness" is passed on to another and that successor becomes the new Sheogorath (ie. Prince of madness). This could also solve the problem of a voice actor for sheogoraths quest, or they just bring haskill back.

Perhaps Sheogorath will come back in various reincarnations after the player character is killed, each one ruling the Isles.


A Sheogoravine as it were.

Imortality isn't that hard to achieve in TES, I'm sure the CoC is now imortal. Also time doesn't flow the same way in oblivion than it does in nirn. 200 hundred years could be an enterity in Oblivion. The CoC might not even remember his true form, maybe he always was Sheogorath.

This isn't Narnia, 200 years is 200 years. If the Champion of Cyrodiil was an elf he could last several thousand years like Divayth Fyr did.

Well, this is what makes sense for me.

COC gets married and has a child (He's not actually a Daedra, right? I'm sure the others won't mind).

COC dies. Child becomes new ruler of Shivering Isles with the title "Sheogorath, Prince of Madness".

So, for all we know, we could be talking about the COC's offspring.

No, i think Sheogorath will look like how Nords imagine him

Well to work around that I was thinking they'd just have Haskill give out the Sheogorath quest, while sighing that his lord was out on one of his or her many adventures.

May I refer everyone to http://www.gamesas.com/index.php?/topic/1096021-arden-sul/page__p__16007026__fromsearch__1#entry16007026 Which I completely agree with. I believe the CoC became Sheogorath and eventually did grow to his station. Thus taking on the form and personality of Sheogorath. This is the end part of what Jyggalag says to you:
"You now hold the mantle of madness, and Jyggalag is free to roam the voids of Oblivion once more. I will take my leave, and you will remain here, mortal. Mortal...? King? God? It seems uncertain. This Realm is yours. Perhaps you will grow to your station. Fare thee well, Sheogorath, Prince of Madness."

They obviously couldn't completely make you a Daedric prince at the end because gameplay wise you would have become completely over powered. And If you remember you did get all kinds of powers to control the Isles. So, I think we will see Sheogorath just as he always was and hopefully we will see Jyggalag as well.

Plus, turning the CoC into Sheograth is the perfect way to get around ever having to talk about him really. His gender/race no longer matter because he has taken on the form and personality of his station and as far as the people of Tamriel know he went into the portal and never returned. Same as how the Nerevarine went to Akavir.
I think it's quite amazing and ironic to think the same (wo)man who defeated the hordes of Mehrunes Dagon and closed shut the jaws of Oblivion ended up becoming a Daedric Prince.