Shocking news about overzealous police

Post » Mon Mar 14, 2011 10:08 pm

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/video/kelowna-man-kicked-in-face-by-rcmp-during-arrest/article1864346/

Another case where over-active out of control RCMP decide it is within their right to abuse their power and assault arrested civilians.

I think the worst part of this story is there was no need for any force to be used. The arrested man was submissive and laid down to his stomach on the ground, and the officer (with steel-toe work boots, part of the uniform they wear) lunged forward with full force, and kicked the man in the face. I am not at all surprised this happened, as the frequency of these types of actions are more commonly caught on video. So this makes me wonder how often this type of stuff also seems to happen?

Realizing his own stupidity, the officer then said it was a response to a "Domestic disturbance", where the man and his ex-wife were fighting. His ex- wife, apparently, said she had no idea what the officer was even talking about. So this also makes me wonder, how many cases in which an officer is making up false stories to cover their own tracks.
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Post » Mon Mar 14, 2011 8:16 pm

Whilst this topic can be discussed please don`t start discussing violent retribution against the officer - that is not for these forums and the members to decide, that is for the justice system
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Post » Mon Mar 14, 2011 4:10 pm

Noted. I removed my last comment.

Ro.: Thanks. :)
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Post » Mon Mar 14, 2011 3:32 pm

Problem is police are people too, which means some are bound to be [censored]. I hope he gets fired though - it's a shame some thuggish officers end up giving the rest of them a bad name.
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Post » Mon Mar 14, 2011 3:47 pm

ahh well. [censored] happens and maybe he got a little to hasty and excited.
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Post » Mon Mar 14, 2011 10:38 pm

ahh well. [censored] happens and maybe he got a little to hasty and excited.


So, you wouldn't be mad if you were asked to step out of your car, and a cop decided to shoot you in the leg because he got "excited"?

These people go through mental and physical training to be able to access situations and handle them legally, and properly. This is no less an act of pure assault than a bar fight. Actually, I understand a bar fight, they are drunk. And not police.
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Post » Mon Mar 14, 2011 4:50 pm

While this is disgusting, I usually find that violence towards police officers tends to get the benefit of being (totally unjustly) glorified. Thus while I am sympathetic to anyone who is the victim of police abuse and absolutely resentful of thuggish police officers, I can't quite find it in my stomach to hold it against police officers in general, most of whom are just ordinary people trying to make sure everyone gets along.
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Post » Mon Mar 14, 2011 8:46 pm

Sure i would be pissed but then again, i wouldn't blame them for being careful for their own wellbeing. He was reprimanded for his actions anyway.
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Post » Mon Mar 14, 2011 3:09 pm

Sure i would be pissed but then again, i wouldn't blame them for being careful for their own wellbeing. He was reprimanded for his actions anyway.

is that you're way of thinking then shooting the man would have been easier i mean putting 1 in the shoulder or in the leg is more careful that trying to hit him in the head with a kick because the man could have grab his leg and throw him in the ground . so might as well shoot him to be even more careful don't you think? :rolleyes:
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Post » Mon Mar 14, 2011 10:24 pm

and i guess your way of thinking is that every single crook out there will just happily go on their merry way with the police?
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Post » Mon Mar 14, 2011 11:14 pm

and i guess your way of thinking is that every single crook out there will just happily go on their merry way with the police?

i'm talking about this one ;) the man was following order putting his hand on the floor like they ask him and yet he get hit in the face ? yea i can see how it was justified :wink_smile: .
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Post » Mon Mar 14, 2011 11:24 pm

Problem is police are people too...


My first reaction as well (minus the quote retraction). I know many people in law enforcement (my father, a few friends) that have been traumatized by the violence they either witness or are involved in. This officer's reactions maybe uncalled for, but I think haste in judgment should be as reserved for both parties, until all the facts are known.

Besides, the commentary and video seem to switch back at the reports convenience.
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Post » Mon Mar 14, 2011 8:15 pm

and i guess your way of thinking is that every single crook out there will just happily go on their merry way with the police?


Good point, if I was a cop I'd probably be terrified for my own wellbeing too when faced with such a serious threat as an unarmed man lying face-down on the ground on his knees before them.

It seems extremely unlikely to me that any evidence which could have been omitted could justify the assault, but I'll acknowledge the possibility.

EDIT: Can't watch the video, and misinterpreted what occurred.
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Post » Mon Mar 14, 2011 7:22 pm

and i guess your way of thinking is that every single crook out there will just happily go on their merry way with the police?


Did you even watch the video? Did you not notice the man kneeling down. Did you not notice the ready step the officer took before booting him in the face?
And at what point did the topic become about every single person breaking the law?

This is about a single person, who submitted to the officers orders, and was then assaulted for complying?
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Post » Mon Mar 14, 2011 6:42 pm

Buddy was on his knees, not laying facedown on the ground. Still, he didn't seem to be violently resisting arrest. WTF. He seemed compliant.
Buddy is damn lucky that the shots he was firing to scare away geese didn't hit any bystanders. Not so lucky that he encountered that officer.
Next time, leave the geese be.
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Post » Mon Mar 14, 2011 11:25 pm

Buddy was on his knees, not laying facedown on the ground. Still, he didn't seem to be violently resisting arrest. WTF. He seemed compliant.
Buddy is damn lucky that the shots he was firing to scare away geese didn't hit any bystanders. Not so lucky that he encountered that officer.
Next time, leave the geese be.


Shots like this are usually just fired into the ground, to avoid the possibility of casualty. Although I do find it odd to use a gun for it. And I don't think he had time to get down all the way. The cop just threw his boot out.
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Post » Mon Mar 14, 2011 2:25 pm

Buddy was on his knees, not laying facedown on the ground. Still, he didn't seem to be violently resisting arrest. WTF. He seemed compliant.
Buddy is damn lucky that the shots he was firing to scare away geese didn't hit any bystanders. Not so lucky that he encountered that officer.
Next time, leave the geese be.

:shrug: From the news report it seems he was in fact employed to shoot at the geese to scare scare them away, seems a little unfair that he's undergone this treatment from an officer of the law for doing his job.

@Sashalon-have you seen the video at all? The cop wasn't looking out for his own wellbeing, he had a handgun pointed straight at the guy who was unarmed and in the act of laying on the ground to comply with police. At the time he was kicked in the face he was on his knees and lowering his torso to the ground. Still, I guess that it's ok if you're doing your job and you're arrested for a crime you may not have commited and could be down to a horrific misunderstanding, kicked in the face with a steel toe capped boot whilst complying with the officer and have a gun pointed at your head and end up in the cells for it.

FYI-he'd recently undergone brain surgery. Not a doctor but I'm pretty sure you should avoid heavy blows to the head after that.
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Post » Mon Mar 14, 2011 2:07 pm

:shrug: From the news report it seems he was in fact employed to shoot at the geese to scare scare them away, seems a little unfair that he's undergone this treatment from an officer of the law for doing his job.

@Sashalon-have you seen the video at all? The cop wasn't looking out for his own wellbeing, he had a handgun pointed straight at the guy who was unarmed and in the act of laying on the ground to comply with police. At the time he was kicked in the face he was on his knees and lowering his torso to the ground. Still, I guess that it's ok if you're doing your job and you're arrested for a crime you may not have commited and could be down to a horrific misunderstanding, kicked in the face with a steel toe capped boot whilst complying with the officer and have a gun pointed at your head and end up in the cells for it.

FYI-he'd recently undergone brain surgery. Not a doctor but I'm pretty sure you should avoid heavy blows to the head after that.


^ This. Basically summed up everything.
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Post » Mon Mar 14, 2011 7:54 pm

Problem is police are people too, which means some are bound to be [censored]. I hope he gets fired though - it's a shame some thuggish officers end up giving the rest of them a bad name.


My thoughts exactly.
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Post » Mon Mar 14, 2011 8:50 pm

yes i saw the video :facepalm:
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Post » Mon Mar 14, 2011 2:19 pm

Shots like this are usually just fired into the ground, to avoid the possibility of casualty. Although I do find it odd to use a gun for it. And I don't think he had time to get down all the way. The cop just threw his boot out.


As far as I know, at least at the PD where I do my police explorers training, "warning shots" are not allowed....ever....I dont know what the heck this officer was thinking :blink: but there are hundreds of thousands of police officers in the counrty and every so often we hear about one or two going crazy or something along these lines. If you ask me, out of thousands and thousands of cops and only a few defect every so often, those aren't bad odds considering the things these men and women see and how they are treated by most of the populace. While I'm not justifying the officer's actions (cops like this piss me off because they bring down the lawmans good name) I am saying that we cant go and assume that every badge and gun wearing protector is a power tripping [censored], and I'm willing to bet that the majority of cop-haters out there have never had physical contact with the Police and instead they hate them purely because its considered "cool" to rebel against authority.

Bear in mind this is just a rant and its not directed at you :P just remember as you do not want to be profiled by the Police, the Police do not want to be profiled by you.
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Post » Mon Mar 14, 2011 10:44 pm

As far as I know, at least at the PD where I do my police explorers training, "warning shots" are not allowed....ever....I dont know what the heck this officer was thinking :blink: but there are hundreds of thousands of police officers in the counrty and every so often we hear about one or two going crazy or something along these lines. If you ask me, out of thousands and thousands of cops and only a few defect every so often, those aren't bad odds considering the things these men and women see and how they are treated by most of the populace. While I'm not justifying the officer's actions (cops like this piss me off because they bring down the lawmans good name) I am saying that we cant go and assume that every badge and gun wearing protector is a power tripping [censored], and I'm willing to bet that the majority of cop-haters out there have never had physical contact with the Police and instead they hate them purely because its considered "cool" to rebel against authority.

Bear in mind this is just a rant and its not directed at you :P just remember as you do not want to be profiled by the Police, the Police do not want to be profiled by you.


Im not saying all cops do this. But you also have to look at it this way. At the alarming rates stories of police like this are being caught on camera, how many more are done off camera?
And I am not a cop-hater. I have had my issues with police brutality though. When I was 17, and being a punk angsty kid, I have a cop dislocate my shoulder after he threw me into a wall. Why? Because he decided to put handcuffs on me when my shoulder doesn't bend in the direction he wanted to do it.

I also understand what police go through. I was in a fit of rage when I was 16, and a cop tried to grab me when I Walked past him, and I grab his arm and threw him into a wall. He didn't press charges, and I apologized, because I wasn't acting rational, and he understood. So I understand both sides of cops, and i'v been on both sides, and I still say this type of thing is [censored].

Keep in mind, that kick could of easily been fatal. I would chalk this up as possible attempted murder had the officer known he had a brain injury prior. However, I will still chalk this up as pure assault for no apparent reason.
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Post » Tue Mar 15, 2011 2:50 am

yes i saw the video :facepalm:

And you still side with the cop and the excuse that "[censored] happens"?
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Post » Mon Mar 14, 2011 3:39 pm

And you still side with the cop and the excuse that "[censored] happens"?

Personally I think it's his type of attitude that perpetuates officers to keep doing this kind of thing. Trigger happy patriots never solve anything.
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Post » Mon Mar 14, 2011 7:56 pm

this doesn't surprise me at all. a couple years ago a few friends of mine were trying to come back into London after doing something they shouldn't have been doing, I'll admit, but a guy was nice enough to give these guys who he didn't know a ride back into the city.

the city was roadblocked all around, and the police were checking everyone, they come up to the vehicle with my friends in it, recognized them and had a team of officers in riot gear rip everyone out of the vehicle, including the innocent driver and a girl who wasn't resisting arrest, and beat them down, cuffed 'em, and didn't read them their rights until try were in the basemant of the cop station.

it seems to me some, not all, officers get a little ahead of themselves and start thinking everyone that gets into trouble is a terrible person. I've met more than my fair share of cops who shouldn't be cops.
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