Shor son of Shor : The Elder Scrolls Series Discussion

» Wed Apr 06, 2011 10:56 pm

Just write something book-length, and get it published. Lots of people do it. It's, like, almost an industry anymore.

But not many of them could write a story beginning with a conjunction, which is eyed over 180 times in less than 12 hours after its release.

That's a lot of eyes that agree the needs of story outweigh the dicta of grammar.

... Also, I selfishly want more.

A: Plus he has stuff to put on the resume and cover letter. B: Plus most people here would buy a copy just because, so why not?

As for this, I finally had the time and chance to read it. I enjoyed myself immensely, not least because it is very Nordic-sounding filled with shield-thanes and jarls, which I think is good considering the circumstances. Perhaps this will help me in my own mythmaking to remind me of my place and duties.

» Thu Apr 07, 2011 6:39 am

This was the most chilling and moving piece of lore fiction I've ever read. Just wanted to say that.

» Thu Apr 07, 2011 5:54 am

Its the war in the Dawn era, which, if you've read http://imperial-library.info/ForumArchives/World-Eating_101.html, was really the end of the previous kalpa. Its a retelling of the http://www.imperial-library.info/content/morrowind-monomyth, which just happens to be the apocalypse myth, too.

Although a simpler way to boil it down is the Nords http://www.imperial-library.info/content/nords-lack-creation-myth but they still have a perspective of the monomyth.

» Thu Apr 07, 2011 6:47 am

Although a simpler way to boil it down is the Nords http://www.imperial-library.info/content/nords-lack-creation-myth but they still have a perspective of the monomyth.

Living for the moment feels very Nord

This stuff seems to do that more than the Mer who seem to live for the past

» Wed Apr 06, 2011 6:15 pm

Amazing to read this beautiful piece of literature in its completed form. I love how it personalizes the gods from the Dawn Era.

The lore of Skyrim is really exciting to me!

» Wed Apr 06, 2011 6:49 pm

What I find fascinating is that this piece is written in first person. Which begs the question: who is the narrator?

» Wed Apr 06, 2011 5:21 pm

What I find fascinating is that this piece is written in first person. Which begs the question: who is the narrator?

Morgan Freeman, of course.

That guy narrates everything.

» Wed Apr 06, 2011 11:46 pm

It's either Wasabi Bif, a Ysgrimskald unfamiliar to humor, or Snori the Corset, a visionary king, in the habit of wearing woman's underwear to battle.

» Wed Apr 06, 2011 10:56 pm

Morgan Freeman, of course.

That guy narrates everything.

I heard it in Liam Neeson's voice, no lie.

» Thu Apr 07, 2011 12:59 am

I heard it in Liam Neeson's voice, no lie.

Martin Sheen ftw.

» Thu Apr 07, 2011 7:15 am

I loved the line "To live in Skyrim is to change your mind 10 times a day lest it freeze to death"
Also, what is the "Moot"

» Wed Apr 06, 2011 6:20 pm

A moot is a tribal gathering or impromptu court. They had them in Anglo-Saxon England (6th-11th century) and in other places and times.

» Wed Apr 06, 2011 9:10 pm

A Moot is a debate among the kingdom's most irrelevant individuals...

» Thu Apr 07, 2011 8:55 am

...that's the cryptic crossword answer

» Wed Apr 06, 2011 9:52 pm

Or, if you prefer, a collection of Ents.

» Thu Apr 07, 2011 7:14 am

So, after reading a bit of http://imperial-library.info/ForumArchives/World-Eating_101.html This man/mer/beast totally called it:

Posted 05 December 2008 - 04:54 PM

Numerological [censored] is starting to click in my head a lil. Thanks to Ayaan-Si for making me recall the Loveletter some. Once again, rambling. Behold:

I agree with Ayaan's 5th era assertion. If this is true, it's not really suprising: 5 is a number of completeness: five fingers on a hand, 2 arms, 2 legs, and the head of a body et al. Hell, the "way of the fifth" is the Enantiomorph -- Love itself (recall that the fifth Walking Way listed in the Loveletter is the Enantiomorph).

Whenever I see Vivec mention the five corners of the world, I think of the theoretical 5 dimensions of existence. The 4th of these is Time. The 5 of these (can be) all of existence.

Personally I see the number 4 as a "means to an end" type of number. Four Horseman bring about the apocalypse. Four Noble Truths lead to enlightenment.

There is going to be quite a cataclysm in the 4th coming era. Something that will bring some form of completeness in the 5th. I'm more focused on this particular aspect.

Oh Elder Scrolls... You and your pattern/cycles/kalpa ways.

» Thu Apr 07, 2011 5:15 am

Yes. It's unlikely the end of the Fourth will come on the heels of TESV. Maybe VII. However, these are the days of the Prophet:

He has come down from the mountains, the chitin of his belly segments freshly painted in Faith. The suns shine overhead, each uttering his name in their way. The barrens before him distort in the blur of their heat as he climbs the last hill, but his vision is clear. It always has been. His fifth and second arms encircle his staff as his mandibles click out a small prayer. Beyond the barrens lay the Crescent of the Eighty and One Thrones, and all the villages that hang from it like a jeweled belt. They do not know it yet, those millions that work, rule, and commit their countless sins out there in the cradle of all written history, but he will save them. In ones and twos, then in droves, and then their own priests and their own kings will throw down their false idols and take up the New Faith. He would permit himself some pride if that emotion occurred to him; instead, he tests his locust wings on the wind, permitting himself to glide into the first steps of Salvation.

~ The Prophet of Landfall

The Dragonborn is the Prophet of Landfall, Ysgramor Who Returns. Don't let the insectoid motif scare you:

Representations of the chim, and by extension the Psijic Endeavor, are always protean values, such as the anumidi models renowned by the Dwemer, the Scarab of contemporary astrolothurges, and the Striking ("exact egg-cracking") of old Argonia. All of these representations possess an innate and constant aspect of transformation.

~ The Book of Hours

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Then again, the series may continue after Landfall and into the Fifth. Who knows?

» Thu Apr 07, 2011 1:47 am

Okies so likely it's from the Dawn Time etc - but I wonder (given that this is cyclical) how many 'Dawn Times' there have been, eh?

» Wed Apr 06, 2011 10:25 pm

If we accept the theory that the RL universe is but a series of big bangs and big crunches, I don't believe we'd ever be able to tell.

It's clear that this has happened at least twice before, and if we believe the Aldudagga, Alduin was well practiced at it the last time too.

Though if you want an arbitrary number, then I'll say 16 times before.

» Thu Apr 07, 2011 5:03 am

The Scarab-That-Transforms-Into-The-New-Man?

Okies so likely it's from the Dawn Time etc - but I wonder (given that this is cyclical) how many 'Dawn Times' there have been, eh?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iDHBZlSNO6w Don't you remember?

» Thu Apr 07, 2011 6:33 am

The Scarab-That-Transforms-Into-The-New-Man?

Alduin's return will coincide with Ysgramor's. Why? Alduin's own hunger is Shor; a mantle without a King. Dovahkiin will fill the hunger, with his own heart. He'll end the dual between the mad-dragon and walk down the mountains, as Ysgramor.

Going up the Throat, and back; he completes the World's mightiest sigil. They cried for him, and he will save them. He'll show them how to Love, to end the dual. So that's the reference.

» Wed Apr 06, 2011 8:12 pm

But it never really ends, does it? The awful fighting always begins again. (hence no boundaries)

» Thu Apr 07, 2011 8:50 am

But it never really ends, does it? The awful fighting always begins again. (hence no boundaries)

This is clearly attested by ANU and his double, which love knows never really happened.

Lull calls this a refutation of sorts, but the wise may know it as the first appearance of Nu-Mantia, which is Liberty. Rather, the road to Liberty.

The consciousness of mankind is wrapped in the chains of space-time. It will never be boundless, until they're broken.

History is stepped with these conflicts, but at the top is the last; at one point, the conflict will end. Anu and Padomay will not be repeated.

» Thu Apr 07, 2011 4:24 am

The consciousness of mankind is wrapped in the chains of space-time. It will never be boundless, until they're broken.

And once it is boundless, it will no longer be an it. And likely not conscious, until space-time reinstates its dominion.

» Thu Apr 07, 2011 1:06 am

And once it is boundless, it will no longer be an it. And likely not conscious, until space-time reinstates its dominion.

Likely not conscious? so will it dream?