Should a 16yr old be allowed to have HIS OWN computer in his

Post » Tue Feb 16, 2010 9:45 pm

Are they worried about the pr0nz perhaps?
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Jonny
 
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Post » Wed Feb 17, 2010 4:06 am

I'm going to answer first , then read what everyone else says.. then I might reply again.

HELL YES!

The kid is six-effing-teen!! In two years the boy will OUT OF THE HOUSE!! -if all goes according mom and dad's 'ultimate plan'.. Anything, but anything the parents wanted to teach him, has been taught to the kid, or the kid teaches it to himself in life.

I mean, he can drive a car, legally, but no computer in the room?
WTF??!

'kay, lets see what everyone else thinks.. :)
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Post » Wed Feb 17, 2010 6:09 am

Their house, their rules.

If they wish to be reasonable about it, you can attempt to show them that nothing you do now, or would do, on your computer is in any way a risk to you personally or academically, or to anybody in the family. But if the matter is not open to discussion, you have a choice between doing as you are told and doing as you are told.

If you were one of my children and you had a 3.0, I would be very concerned that you were neglecting your studies, and I would be taking whatever actions I needed to remove temptations and distractions. If I believed you were wasting time on a computer, I would bar you from using the computer, except as you needed for your studies. It would be incompatible with my duty to allow you to use a computer in your room, and I would not be willing to negotiate on the subject.

ok and whats wrong with a 3.0. im sorry that ur kid isnt good enough for u cuz he had a 3.0 (say he is ur kid) its called trust and if they screw up then u take away for good not run ur house like stalin because you have the power and since you do ur just going to dike about it. somtimes being a hardass all the time isnt the anwser but agian im not the parent so ohh well i guess plus i agree with another reply the kid can drive but no computer? chance at killing himself over him looking at porm or somthing
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Post » Tue Feb 16, 2010 4:54 pm

Also, if they don't make the mistakes themselves how can they prevent their kids from making them? Then the mistakes just skip a generation but don't actually stop, right?

mistakes will never end its how u learn. u can tell the kid dont touch the stove because its hot but they wont listin and do it anyways. once they burn them selfs they realize hey i cant touch that cuz it hurt me. its how u learn. u learn from ur mistakes
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Post » Tue Feb 16, 2010 7:08 pm

I got a computer in my room when I was 18. I spent too much time on it. Though, I say yes, just know that you'll have to be totally responsible for the time you spend on it. For every bit of entertainment you open with a computer in your room, you close other doors. I'm now trying to catch up on all the reading I missed out on over the past year and a half.
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Post » Wed Feb 17, 2010 1:53 am

I'm pretty sure I had a computer in my room around about then. That said, it's entirely up to the parents.
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Alexandra Ryan
 
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Post » Tue Feb 16, 2010 5:54 pm

It's virtually necessary for school. How are you supposed to get assignments done if the computer is in some noisy lounge room with other people laying about?
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Post » Tue Feb 16, 2010 5:33 pm

They have comandeered this since it runs FarmVille better then their machine can do it.

Obviously, you should be worried about your parents obsession over FarmVille. If they went to these lengths... You had better have them put on the AF program. Like now. Before their souls are devoured.
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Post » Tue Feb 16, 2010 10:15 pm

I got by at school without a computer of my own, because computers were barely used at school then. But my brother and sister could not, because they are used for everything. I don't exactly understand your grading system, but surely you could tell your parents to filter your internet if tehy're worried about what you'd get up to?
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Post » Tue Feb 16, 2010 9:04 pm

I have one in my room...

Ah, seems they just want to play farmville... Did you pay for the PC parts? If so, point this out to them, and if this is the case then they have no right to even be on it without your express permission. If they paid for the parts and then gave them to you, they still have no right to be on it without your permission because it is still yours. You don't give someone a gift and then ask for it back, ya know?

If that fails (Shouldn't do unless they care only about Farmville and not what is actually right) then just block Farmville.
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Post » Wed Feb 17, 2010 4:05 am

'kay, read everything.. here's what you do.. drum roll please. :)


Ask your parents straight up whether they took the computer for the farmsville experience, or because they don't trust you not to love yourself too much (..and why exactly do we need a computer these days to do this? I sure didn't.)

If it's farmville, offer to build them there own gaming rig -give 'em a family discount :D

If it's the latter, offer to route your internet through their machine, so that they can log all of your internet activity. Once they see a log 300 pages long, they'll forgo actually reading them.. skim it once or twice, won't come across anything naughty (be smart, just DL the pron to yer phone or whatever if you're so inclined. I'm assuming here yer not so inclined..)
and trust is yours again.

btw, offering that the internet can be routed though their computer for monitoring will go a long way towards putting the trust their to start with.

Me thinks this the fairest solution to thouest parental problems, my young squire :)
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Post » Tue Feb 16, 2010 3:37 pm

What is with all the mistrust with you people and your kids?

I think its a case of we know what we got up to and we don't want them to.

I had the phone cord running from my room to the lounge room and it was back in the day of no broadband and splitters. You go online and no one can ring in or out. I got in trouble a few times for 'tying up' the phone lines. It was expensive back then, too. Mobile phones weren't as common, plus expensive as well.

Ugh, I wasn't allowed on the internet for more than five minutes at a time until 2005 when we got broadband.
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Post » Tue Feb 16, 2010 2:28 pm

I think its a case of we know what we got up to and we don't want them to.

Well its both a hypocritical and misguided train of thinking imo. You might not want them to do what you did, but if you remember your childhood, your parents didn't want you to do those things either, and you still did them.
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Post » Wed Feb 17, 2010 6:20 am

Well its both a hypocritical and misguided train of thinking imo. You might not want them to do what you did, but if you remember your childhood, your parents didn't want you to do those things either, and you still did them.

Yes, but now I see they were right (well in actual fact they didn't give a [censored], but hypothetically speaking) and I hope to be more efficient at it than they are. Its not hypocritical, because my thinking has changed.
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Post » Wed Feb 17, 2010 3:17 am

I had one in my room when I was around 12, so yeah, I don't see why you shouldn't be allowed one.
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Post » Wed Feb 17, 2010 3:43 am

Exactly. I had a brand-new Gateway computer back when I was in 6th grade, but now they assume I can't handle the "responsibility" of having one now.

How does that make sense? :wacko:
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Post » Wed Feb 17, 2010 5:02 am

ok and whats wrong with a 3.0. im sorry that ur kid isnt good enough for u cuz he had a 3.0 (say he is ur kid) its called trust and if they screw up then u take away for good not run ur house like stalin because you have the power and since you do ur just going to dike about it. somtimes being a hardass all the time isnt the anwser but agian im not the parent so ohh well i guess plus i agree with another reply the kid can drive but no computer? chance at killing himself over him looking at porm or somthing


Wait, are you saying he should take away the kid's computer for good?
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Post » Tue Feb 16, 2010 8:18 pm

Are they worried about the pr0nz perhaps?


Even if they are, who cares? He is old enough to be interested in that sort of stuff.
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Post » Tue Feb 16, 2010 3:33 pm

Exactly. I had a brand-new Gateway computer back when I was in 6th grade, but now they assume I can't handle the "responsibility" of having one now.

Whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat.
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Post » Tue Feb 16, 2010 8:32 pm

It's hard to be fair since so much has changed.

I had a "pc" in my room at an age younger than you, but that was an old Apple II+.

Now, with broadband technology and internet porm, your parents have a very valid reason to not let you have a computer where they can't see what you are doing.

If that is their concern, it would be a good thing to let you have a PC in your room, but no internet access from it. They could always hard-wire a LAN connection for necessary things like software updates, but otherwise force you to use the laptop/PC in the common room for surfing the 'net.

It might be treating you like a child, but internet porm addiction is a real danger and a real epidemic. You're young and curious. You can't say you'll never be tempted to take a peak when you think nobody will find out.
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Post » Tue Feb 16, 2010 4:00 pm

It's hard to be fair since so much has changed.

I had a "pc" in my room at an age younger than you, but that was an old Apple II+.

Now, with broadband technology and internet porm, your parents have a very valid reason to not let you have a computer where they can't see what you are doing.

If that is their concern, it would be a good thing to let you have a PC in your room, but no internet access from it. They could always hard-wire a LAN connection for necessary things like software updates, but otherwise force you to use the laptop/PC in the common room for surfing the 'net.

It might be treating you like a child, but internet porm addiction is a real danger and a real epidemic. You're young and curious. You can't say you'll never be tempted to take a peak when you think nobody will find out.

Wow, really? Internet porm addiction? First of all, watching porm is completely normal, especially at that age, it's part of teens exploring their own sixuality, which believe it or not is important. A sixually confused person will never be as comfortable with him or herself as someone who knows what they like.

pormography is not a drug, it will not make you addicted and force you to watch it constantly. Unless there's an underlying condition present already, such as six addiction. porm really isn't any different from violent games or movies, it does not single handedly corrupt people.
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Post » Wed Feb 17, 2010 12:18 am

I know my offspring, that is why security and content protocols are in place on their laptops. Their father and I are the adminstrators of the laptops, they are the users. With a secure, password/key protected wireless network in the home, they have the option of where ever indoors they want to use it. They do not have the option to surf online wherever they please.
They may own their laptops, but it is my electricity, my internet connection, my house, and my rules. It's also my and my husband's ass if content that law enfocement may deem illegal were traced to my ip connection. You may be a teen, but your parents aren't. Part of maturity is realising ahead of time that the consequences of your actions affect not only you, but others as well.
So, until it is your house, you are paying all the bills, be glad that you have parents that actually care enough to keep you from downloading stuff you shouldn't.
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Post » Wed Feb 17, 2010 2:13 am

Yes, but now I see they were right (well in actual fact they didn't give a [censored], but hypothetically speaking) and I hope to be more efficient at it than they are. Its not hypocritical, because my thinking has changed.

Dang, all this makes me glad my parents respected my privacy. Now if they wanted to put security junk on the network, that'd be a different story (their network after all), but to snoop through a browser history :shakehead: I'd at least give my kid the common courtesy of asking them instead of going behind their backs. Now if I thought they were building bombs or something, it'd be a different story.
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Post » Wed Feb 17, 2010 3:26 am

What exactly do you think your kid would be doing that is so bad that you need to spy on their browsing history? As stated earlier spying like this is just going to create a rift which is not conducive with you being able to be an effective parent. Trust is important to that otherwise they won't come to you with issues due to how untrusting you are.

It has nothing to do with trust, it has to do with parental experience, and my children not getting in over their heads. I prefer to let my kids get themselves out of scraqes they get into. That teaches them self reliance. They are more apt to think about the consequences of their behavior if it is their ass which is responsible for it.
We get a report of every single website they visit, on a daily basis.


Let me put it less delicately,
If my fifteen year old son decides he wants to veiw hot naked teens, and he's found out by law enforcement. Big trouble.
Teenagers are underage, and therefore, even though he himself is a teen, he, my husband, or myself can be labeled, at the discretion of the judicial system, a sixual predator. I ain't down with that.
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Post » Wed Feb 17, 2010 1:22 am

Let me put it less delicately,
If my fifteen year old son decides he wants to veiw hot naked teens, and he's found out by law enforcement. Big trouble.
Teenagers are underage, and therefore, even though he himself is a teen, he, my husband, or myself can be labeled, at the discretion of the judicial system, a sixual predator. I ain't down with that.

Yep, also, by the laws of many countries, letting an underage kid view pormography is a sixual offence in itself.
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