I would think that I would inform my child well of the legal system and what is and is not illegal that they can do on the Internet. Teach, not dictate. No one loves a dictator. Now if I ever felt that they didn't grasp it I would confront them about it to absolve my fears.


I hope you at least told them about it before implementing it.


You know, in the modern world, he is more likely to get such pictures sent via MMS than on his computer. On a computer he is vastly more likely to see older women.

Teens usually refers to girls that have just turned 18, or are much older but look young enough to pass for 18 in the porm industry. Make no mistake, it is an industry, like any other. And professional operators are perfectly legal in what they do.

I agree with you that if a kid watches something illegal then that will affect everyone. I assume the US monitors internet traffic then, as otherwise they'd have no way of finding out, that's not the case in Norway. I can do pretty much whatever I want online with nobody knowing, but I don't. You know why? I don't see the need to. Kids aren't going to look up illegal material if you explain to them just why they shouldn't.

Allthough, apparently it's illegal to watch porm when your under 18 in some countries, which makes absolutlely no sense. Take Norway. I can have six legally at 16 but not watch it untill I'm 18? Yeah, sound logic.

Underage porm is A LOT harder to find then you'd think, trust me, they're not going to innocently stumble across it, and if they're trying to find it, they'll fail epicly unless they has srs underground internet knowledge and credz. i.e the government has been working to stamp out such things for a long time, and they've been sucessful.

My parents got me a Laptop for Christmas '09, the one im using now, because I used our family Desktop alot but it was worthless, im going into 5th year now (i dont know what American Grade that is).
You should get a Laptop instead of a Desktop, It would help you in school, and you could game on it. but if you are buying a laptop for gaming, save up and buy a good laptop, like an Alienware one.

Well, I tell you what, when you have kids, raise em the way you want. My kids are not your kids, nor will I take [censored] from you about raising them. You have no say so in their discipline, nor their upbringing.
Of course they know why this was implemented, my son himself went out looking for porm. Some of it was of teens. We found it.
It was on teh report.
He's also brought to our attention, activity of his classmates which he got via text message. Said acitivity we alerted their parents to, to be dealt with on their terms.
I don't give a fat rat's ass about what they did to their kids, or what you plan to do with yours.
As for mine, they will follow my rules, and they damn for sure know why.


Twas a shame really, we expected better of him, and use of more common sense.
He also lost complete use of his laptop for two m onths. That taught him to underestimate his parents.

You can do it, just don't look while you're doing it! Think of the children!

I think I remember you talking about that, wasn't it because he'd looked stuff up on your computer?

He had his computer taken away, so he looked up stuff on my computer. WHich the hubs and I then password protected.
He had the audacity to go in my stuff, he's lucky he didn't get his ass kicked. Oh were we pissed. We learned a lesson though.He didn't respect us. So it was time to put the fear of god into him. OR more appropriately, goddess of hellfire.
I have never wanted to beat the living hell out of someone so bad, but I had self discipline.

Instead, he got two more months of restriction.
Which was four months in succession, four months of internet restriction.
And it's worked like a charm.

I didn't mean to come off as saying your child-rearing methods are wrong. I personally see nothing wrong with security/surveillance so long as the children are made aware of it before it is implemented (you know, just like real laws, you are made aware of them before they go in effect). It has been the sinister methods (ie looking up their browser history behind their backs) that have been mentioned in this thread that I find appalling (not to mention how ineffective these methods are).

Thing was, we explained to them why we made them users, and why we were admins, why certain protocols were in place before their laptops were entrusted to them.
He was caught, and he'd been warned. That didn't hurt at all, we expected him to frell up. What really hurt us was him going in our private areas, in our own home, on my pc, too look at things we'd expressly forbidden and explained to him why were forbidden. He didn't care. My husband and I had a huge fight about him viewing women as mere objects.
So until he can control his hormones, he's limited to Instyle and the sunday underwear ads from JC Penny and Belk.

I have no issues with normal, runof the mill porm, the hubs doesnt either. I have issues with someone who cannot control themselves viewing it, someone who is neither emotionally or hormonally ready for it. I have issues with some of the content on the internet that goes way beyond a lovely nvde person posing suggestively.

My read on this is the computer is your personal property. The internet connection, however, belongs to the one paying the bill. How useful is a non-connected computer in your room to you?

Suggestions
1- Do more chores on your own
2- If possible, get some income and offer to pay part of the internet bill
3- Offer to upgrade their computer so they can do their thing on their own box

This kind of issue never came up when I was in school. Truely useful PCs came along when I was in my 20's. We had one TV in the house (we got color when I was in high school). I finally got an internet connection 5 years ago.

BTW, I graduated HS with a 3.45 and the dozen college courses I've taken over the years are at 3.89. 3.0 is really nothing to brag about. It's a good foundation for doing better.

Of course you should. Computers are awesome. I gave my previous computer to my 9 year old cousin some months ago, he loves it.

Actually, that is one point that often gets confused, depending on which country one lives in.

Y'see, in Sweden, although children under the age of 15 cannot be punished for a crime, they are still legally capable of committing one. Many people are under the impression that the parents are liable for crimes committed by their children, but at least in Sweden that is simply not the case, unless the parent was personally present at the time and was in a position to prevent the crime, at which point they could at most be charged with assisting it.

Now, in the case of an IP connection, unless someone can prove that it was the parent who handled the computer at that particular time, the parent cannot be charged for the crime in question.

Woah, hold your horses!

You expressly told your child that something was forbidden and that he was to avoid accessing it at all times because it contained content that you deemed inappropriate, and then you're somehow surprised when he doesn't obey?

That's like throwing a steak to a hungry lion, then being shocked when it eats it. I thought everybody knew that the very best way in the world to get a child to do something is to forbid them from doing it because it's not appropriate for them.

I believe it's the same in Norway actually. You guys have IP monitoring don't you?

On another note, I was in Sweden yesterday actually, thanks for selling everything (especially Snus ) at such low prices

No prob :goodjob:

Str?mstad?

Charlettenberg. Me and my friends usually drive out to Svinesund, but we figured Charlettenberg would be quicker...we were wrong, as the roads svck compared to the road to Svinesund which is mostly highway, but it was a good trip regardless, I've got 2 or 3kg of candy next to me, and 15 cans of snus

I don't see why not, I had my first computer back in the late 90s. You'd expect that would make me more computer-literate than most, but I was only interested in the Internet.

Remember everyone, never tell a parent how they should raise their kids.

I'm 16 to and I have my own tv and computer, although my computer is in another separate room, but still. I'm a perfect example for you: I litteraly never have done anything for school and still I have both. Ok, I have to admit I do get my grades, so that's no problem, but I don't show any effort for school, and that's what your parents want? right?
I'd say you should be allowed to get them on your room.

I had my own computer when I was 10, so yeah I think a 16 year old should have his/her own computer.

If I had a child I would give him a computer right away, probably around the age of 10. But I'd take it away again if he cannot take care of it.

Im 16 have a laptop, TV and a Xbox 360 is my room im somewhat social and do get good grades as well but I really dont understand why you shouldnt be able to unless your parents have some legitimate and specific reasons maybe they have been watching Obama speeches too much. Although at the risk of sounding inappropriate i bet your parents are worried about you having private access to a computer in case you would happen upon a pormographic website :shrug:

15? Wow. Here you can go to prison at the age of 10.

I'm 18 and my parents won't let me have my computer in my room. :shrug:

Which I don't really want it in there anyway since I have my own "office" type room.

I feel your pain, man. I'm a 4.165 salutatorian and my parents are still thinking of taking my computer out of my room.

As a matter of fact, they think that BGSF is some kind of wretched hive of scum and villainy. Yeah, I couldn't make this up if I tried.