Should a 16yr old be allowed to have HIS OWN computer in his

Post » Wed Feb 17, 2010 4:05 am

As a matter of fact, they think that BGSF is some kind of wretched hive of scum and villainy. Yeah, I couldn't make this up if I tried.

Oh, so they know us well then?
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lauren cleaves
 
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Post » Tue Feb 16, 2010 7:33 pm

No matter how much you keep someone from doing something, they're going to end up doing it anyway. Restricting their access as anything beyond a punishment just seems like a breach of trust to me, and if it had happened to me when I was 15/16 I wouldn't have any inclination to share important things with the people restricting me. Although most of those monitoring programs are incredibly easy to bypass and are a total waste of money.
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Jonathan Braz
 
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As a matter of fact, they think that BGSF is some kind of wretched hive of scum and villainy. Yeah, I couldn't make this up if I tried.

Hey, same here.

My mom used to call it the "Dark site"

Lol.
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Post » Wed Feb 17, 2010 5:36 am

As a matter of fact, they think that BGSF is some kind of wretched hive of scum and villainy. Yeah, I couldn't make this up if I tried.

I tried to explain to my parents that it wasn't full of little kids, so they decided it was full of paedophiles instead. :facepalm:

My brother, who occasionally browses the forums, says "they're all as bad as him".
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Isabell Hoffmann
 
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Post » Tue Feb 16, 2010 5:57 pm

Woah, hold your horses!

You expressly told your child that something was forbidden and that he was to avoid accessing it at all times because it contained content that you deemed inappropriate, and then you're somehow surprised when he doesn't obey?

That's like throwing a steak to a hungry lion, then being shocked when it eats it. I thought everybody knew that the very best way in the world to get a child to do something is to forbid them from doing it because it's not appropriate for them.

"Son, why did you smash your had with the hammer?"
- "well, you told me not to, then you explained why."
"http://media.giantbomb.com/uploads/0/4912/1132595-son_super.jpg"

Kids really are not the deviants, paragons, innocents or geniuses everyone makes them out to be. They are kids. Expecting kids to listen and trust you as a parent is something you should expect.

I feel your pain, man. I'm a 4.165 salutatorian and my parents are still thinking of taking my computer out of my room.

As a matter of fact, they think that BGSF is some kind of wretched hive of scum and villainy. Yeah, I couldn't make this up if I tried.
I tried to explain to my parents that it wasn't full of little kids, so they decided it was full of paedophiles instead. :facepalm:

My brother, who occasionally browses the forums, says "they're all as bad as him".

Remember that one thread about the drug money LCD monitor? The parents may not be right but they are not entirely unjustified.
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Tai Scott
 
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Post » Tue Feb 16, 2010 10:18 pm



If you were one of my children and you had a 3.0, I would be very concerned that you were neglecting your studies, and I would be taking whatever actions I needed to remove temptations and distractions. If I believed you were wasting time on a computer, I would bar you from using the computer, except as you needed for your studies. It would be incompatible with my duty to allow you to use a computer in your room, and I would not be willing to negotiate on the subject.


Seriously?

A "B" average is bad?

:blink:
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Post » Tue Feb 16, 2010 11:21 pm

I think you should be allowed. You don't seem to have a record of delinquency. Maybe your parents are just a little over-protective.
If you have really conservative parents, or maybe if you're the youngest of your siblings, it would be one thing. You mentioned neither.

You should demand a valid reason. (Don't expect to get one though)
But if they do give one, hopefully it should convince you. Maybe they know you're grades are up and you're a social and mannered, well-rounded, stand up citizen, and don't want to ruin it. Maybe they saw that story on the news, where kids commit suicide, or became criminals after too much video games, or internet or something. (Speaking of that, the news really loves bashing on us nerds..)

:grad: Remember, our parents are from a different generation, and most of the time, they simply don't understand, (and won't admit it either) and don't want to let you into something they
aren't entirely comfortable with.

That being said; Im 17, my grades are good only in certain subjects, otherwise average, Im a bit too social, and I help around the house only from time to time.
But I have a 32" LCD and 360 in my room. Plus a Mac Laptop with it's own wireless internet connection. :woot:

So, you're traits aren't as much of a factor as your parents upbringing style. Maybe they need a little convincing.. :deal:
Or perhaps, some motivation? :cookie:
Maybe, just a little old fashioned threat.. :toughninja:

Anyway, hang in there, and Good Luck. :tops:
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Post » Wed Feb 17, 2010 2:52 am

I tried to explain to my parents that it wasn't full of little kids, so they decided it was full of paedophiles instead. :facepalm: My brother, who occasionally browses the forums, says "they're all as bad as him".


My own family thinks much the same way about this site with the exception of my mother who thinks posting on the forums would be good for me while my dad and sister thinking that they are full of people who fake their information and are paedophiles. Overall this site if you ask me is a good site full of bright decent intellectuals who know how to behave and aren't full of whiny screaming ten year olds or worse (Though this may depend on the subforum). But back on topic to the OP; it sounds like you are going to have to deal with it untill you move out so maybe save money for a apartment?

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Lexy Dick
 
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Post » Wed Feb 17, 2010 6:12 am

I think a study room besides your bedroom still makes more sense than having the computer in a separate room. That way you know for sure when your kid is studying, as there would be no distractions. Plus you've got the space when you need to work too.
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Post » Tue Feb 16, 2010 10:26 pm

Seriously?

A "B" average is bad?

:blink:


It depends on your children, and you have to know them. I know mine could do 3.8 without trying hard, and if they're pulling more B's and C's than A's, or not finishing an assignment from time to time, it's because they're distracted, and then I have to concern myself with what's distracting them.

I'm a lot more concerned with distraction and wasted time than with them running into inappropriate materials or dangerous people online. I really don't worry about what they watch or read or chat about online; I have a pretty good idea what they go for, and I'm not worried about it. It's when, how much, and what it's instead of that I know from experience I have to take care with.
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Post » Tue Feb 16, 2010 5:38 pm

It depends on your children, and you have to know them. I know mine could do 3.8 without trying hard, and if they're pulling more B's and C's than A's, or not finishing an assignment from time to time, it's because they're distracted.


Well that's true, I mean they are your offspring so they have the same alien genes in them which make them intelligent beyond any human means. :P

In all seriousness, it depends on the children greatly. Can't expect a 3.8 from everyone! :lol:
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Post » Tue Feb 16, 2010 9:32 pm

Actually my dad just suggested buying a TV for my room, we're planning on fixing it up a bit. I almost never watch TV apart from a few series, but if he want to buy another TV I'm not gonna stop him :P
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Post » Wed Feb 17, 2010 7:30 am

Seriously?

A "B" average is bad?

:blink:

It is in my house. I never got anything below 89% as an average in high school.


My own family thinks much the same way about this site with the exception of my mother who thinks posting on the forums would be good for me while my dad and sister thinking that they are full of people who fake their information and are paedophiles. Overall this site if you ask me is good site full of bright decent intellectuals who know how to behave and aren't full of whiny screaming ten year olds or worse (Though this may depend on the subforum). But back on topic to the OP; it sounds like you are going to have to deal with it untill you move out so maybe save money for a apartment?

My parents don't really give me any flak for going on this site, though they keep on confusing it with blogging.
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Post » Tue Feb 16, 2010 7:58 pm

I feel your pain, man. I'm a 4.165 salutatorian and my parents are still thinking of taking my computer out of my room.

As a matter of fact, they think that BGSF is some kind of wretched hive of scum and villainy. Yeah, I couldn't make this up if I tried.

You show her /b/ and see the scum of the internet so to say ....then again I think it's heaven.This place if FAR FAR FAR away from being bad in a small amount. Heck this place has improved my grammar is some sort. My creativity went up from werewolf . This place is more educational than most people think .

Oh, so they know us well then?

Well from what I know what you do , you are very very bad boy . Why don't you take a seat? :P
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Post » Tue Feb 16, 2010 5:38 pm

You show her /b/ and see the scum of the internet so to say



/b/ is for los0rs. The other chans are where it's at. Though /tg/ still has original stuff.
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Post » Wed Feb 17, 2010 6:15 am

The fourth chan is for los0rs. The other chans are where it's at.

Your funny :P and lets stop talking bout the chans , curses anonymous is scary people. .......dead cats
I think if the 16 year old paid for the computer they should have it in their room, having internet on it is a different story though.
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Da Missz
 
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Post » Tue Feb 16, 2010 9:52 pm

I don't think anyone under 40 should be allowed to have a computer.
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luis dejesus
 
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Post » Wed Feb 17, 2010 7:33 am

I don't think anyone under 40 should be allowed to have a computer.

hmmm

older than 40 seconds, older than 40 minutes, older than 40 hours, older than 40 days, older than 40 weeks, older than 40 months.

looks like I pass ^_^

[censored], not older than 40 kelvins though. Don't even know how to be older than it. Guess I can't have a computer after all :(
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Mr. Ray
 
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Post » Tue Feb 16, 2010 11:21 pm

hmmm

older than 40 seconds, older than 40 minutes, older than 40 hours, older than 40 days, older than 40 weeks, older than 40 months.

looks like I pass ^_^

[censored], not older than 40 kelvins though. Don't even know how to be older than it. Guess I can't have a computer after all :(

I meant older than 40 decades, like me.
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Post » Tue Feb 16, 2010 7:41 pm

I meant older than 40 decades, like me.

You're 400 years old? :P
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Post » Tue Feb 16, 2010 5:56 pm

Woah, hold your horses!

You expressly told your child that something was forbidden and that he was to avoid accessing it at all times because it contained content that you deemed inappropriate, and then you're somehow surprised when he doesn't obey?

That's like throwing a steak to a hungry lion, then being shocked when it eats it. I thought everybody knew that the very best way in the world to get a child to do something is to forbid them from doing it because it's not appropriate for them.

No, it's called giving someone enough rope to hang themselves with. We wanted to see how far he would go. Far enough to disrespect my personal space, and MY things.
Now we know what he's capable of. We were so disappointed.


It's not like parents enjoy being [censored]s. We give you room to either hang yourself, or show us your mettle. If you screw up, expect negative consequences. If your behavior tends towards irresponsibility and selfishness, enjoy being treated like a child for a longer period of time.
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Taylor Bakos
 
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Post » Tue Feb 16, 2010 11:51 pm

I'm 16 and i've got my own computer i really don't see why it should be a problem...
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Post » Tue Feb 16, 2010 6:08 pm

I'm 16 now and I've had a computer in my room for at least 3 years. I'd say, yes.
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Post » Tue Feb 16, 2010 11:12 pm

The only real reason they will give me is because they have to ask me to help. That I don't actively seek out issues in the house and fix them myself. And they think I will stay up all night on it, but they don't realize I can already do that with my Nexus One or iPod Touch.

Wow you got alot more than most kids do.

Nexus one
iPod touch
TV in your room
CUSTOM computer, which is still your in your house, by the way.

Not gonna lie, but you sound a little spoiled. Your situation isn't critical.
At least your parents arent limiting your time on it. My parents try to pull that BS every month.
At least they didn't totally get rid of the computer.
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Post » Tue Feb 16, 2010 7:45 pm

Wow you got alot more than most kids do.

Nexus one
iPod touch
TV in your room
CUSTOM computer, which is still your in your house, by the way.

Not gonna lie, but you sound a little spoiled. Your situation isn't critical.
At least your parents arent limiting your time on it. My parents try to pull that BS every month.
At least they didn't totally get rid of the computer.

He mentioned he saved up the money himself for that computer. Since when was saving up your own money to buy your own stuff spoiled?
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