Should a 16yr old be allowed to have HIS OWN computer in his

Post » Wed Feb 17, 2010 1:14 am

Yes and no. I know from experience that even if you think you wont be distracted by having a computer in your room, you will get distracted. By having your computer in a common area you can't be on it super long and non-stop, but you can when it's in your room.

But that said, you should really be allowed to. You're 16, you're legally an advlt in some states and in many other countries. Perhaps they don't want you to have it because then they can't play Farmville as well as they can on the other computer?

this, especially the part about using it more when its in your room.
Also what you said reminded me of a funny story, my friendsmother guessed his computer password, and went on it to play farmville, then knept phoning him in school when he changed his password asking what it was, its sad, she had her own laptop, but his was faster.
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Post » Tue Feb 16, 2010 5:45 pm

Their house, their rules.

If they wish to be reasonable about it, you can attempt to show them that nothing you do now, or would do, on your computer is in any way a risk to you personally or academically, or to anybody in the family. But if the matter is not open to discussion, you have a choice between doing as you are told and doing as you are told.

If you were one of my children and you had a 3.0, I would be very concerned that you were neglecting your studies, and I would be taking whatever actions I needed to remove temptations and distractions. If I believed you were wasting time on a computer, I would bar you from using the computer, except as you needed for your studies. It would be incompatible with my duty to allow you to use a computer in your room, and I would not be willing to negotiate on the subject.



Are you not from the U.S.? Does 3.0 have a different meaning to you? When I was in HS(and I know it's still the same, due to cousins that are in HS), a 3.0 was a Solid B average, and is generally what most students shot for. A 3.0 would get you into the majority of colleges in the United States, even a few of the nicer ones(depending your extra-curricular activities and involvement in the community). I know that if my two daughters keep a steady 3.0 Grade average, I'll be freaking proud as can be of them. I'd even buy one of those stupid stickers I always make fun of and put it on my car "My Daughter/s is/are Honor Student/s at Such and such".

Unless you think every kid has the potential to be super smart and get 4.0(or 4.1-4.4 if they take College Weighted courses in junior/senior year), in which case...you need a serious dose of perspective.
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Post » Wed Feb 17, 2010 2:15 am

I didn't have my own computer until college, which required me having one.

Is this a computer you are buying with your own money, or one that is being provided for you?

If it's with your own money, well then I'd say that you are more justified in having one, even if it is your parents' house.

But if it's something you are asking them to buy for you..... then no you don't really have a chance. Unless it's like a birthday or Christmas thing :shrug:

So what are we missing here? If you had one in your room four years ago (but can't be trusted to have one now) what happened? I doubt they would just pull that on you out of the blue without a reason. I'm a firm believer in getting both sides of the story before passing judgement.


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Puberty.

His parents don't want him to......

Everyone's thinking it, I'm just saying it.

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Post » Tue Feb 16, 2010 2:49 pm

I didn't have my own computer until college, which required me having one.

Is this a computer you are buying with your own money, or one that is being provided for you?

If it's with your own money, well then I'd say that you are more justified in having one, even if it is your parents' house.

But if it's something you are asking them to buy for you..... then no you don't really have a chance. Unless it's like a birthday or Christmas thing :shrug:


It's been built since December.
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Post » Tue Feb 16, 2010 10:28 pm

It's been built since December.


Well then it's definitely what I just edited in my post after you already responded.
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Post » Tue Feb 16, 2010 1:20 pm

I personally had my first PC in my room when I was 13. Now I know more about PC's then my parents do, so I get called on to fix anything. With that I got the responsibility of having any electronic I want pretty much in my room. I like it. :shifty:
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Post » Wed Feb 17, 2010 2:23 am

In this day in age where comps. are now a dime a dozen I say yes!
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Post » Wed Feb 17, 2010 1:45 am

Well then it's definitely what I just edited in my post after you already responded.

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Post » Tue Feb 16, 2010 5:09 pm

Are you not from the U.S.? Does 3.0 have a different meaning to you? When I was in HS(and I know it's still the same, due to cousins that are in HS), a 3.0 was a Solid B average, and is generally what most students shot for. A 3.0 would get you into the majority of colleges in the United States, even a few of the nicer ones(depending your extra-curricular activities and involvement in the community). I know that if my two daughters keep a steady 3.0 Grade average, I'll be freaking proud as can be of them. I'd even buy one of those stupid stickers I always make fun of and put it on my car "My Daughter/s is/are Honor Student/s at Such and such".

Unless you think every kid has the potential to be super smart and get 4.0(or 4.1-4.4 if they take College Weighted courses in junior/senior year), in which case...you need a serious dose of perspective.


Well when I was in high school (in the U.S) a 3.0 was too close to the dreaded 2.0-2.9 area to be proud of. I personally graduated with a 3.2, which was far enough from 3.0 for me to be happy with it. If the OP has at least a 3.1 then I wouldn't worry about it.
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Post » Tue Feb 16, 2010 2:38 pm

Well when I was in high school (in the U.S) a 3.0 was too close to the dreaded 2.0-2.9 area to be proud of. I personally graduated with a 3.2, which was far enough from 3.0 for me to be happy with it. If the OP has at least a 3.1 then I wouldn't worry about it.


Yeah, 3.0 is kind of pushing it on the low and of the spectrum by today's standards. Of course, it also depends what classes you are taking (honors, AP, etc, whether the colleges you are applying to mostly look at weighted GPA's, unweighted ones, extracurriculars, standardized tests, etc). However, if you are taking moderately rigorous classes and do a decent amount of extracurriculars, then you could make the case that you have the time management and dedication skills necessary to handle an added distraction.
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Post » Tue Feb 16, 2010 11:56 pm

It's been built since December.
That's really harsh. Isn't it your very own property then? Sheesh.
Never heared of Czernia, whats a Lobo ?

http://www.superherodb.com/pictures/portraits/lobo.jpg, Czarnia is his homeplanet, and http://fathersofmathematics.com/myPictures/zero_brahmagupta.jpg is its current population after Lobo's last killing spree there. ^_^
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Post » Wed Feb 17, 2010 1:45 am

That's really harsh. Isn't it your very own property then? Sheesh.

http://www.superherodb.com/pictures/portraits/lobo.jpg, Czarnia is his homeplanet, and http://fathersofmathematics.com/myPictures/zero_brahmagupta.jpg is its current population after Lobo's last killing spree there. ^_^

He looks like some kind of biker, alien, zombie, vampire hybrid with dreadlocks.
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Post » Wed Feb 17, 2010 1:53 am

I have had a game console in my room with a tv since I was eight . Around age 13 I was given my own laptop for personal use. Look at myself now.......I wonder if it helped my transgender thing :P If the kid is good at school , responsible and knows how to the use the computer right it should be fine.
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Post » Tue Feb 16, 2010 9:39 pm

I wouldn't give any future kid of mine a computer to put in their room. No TV or console either. I know from experience how easy it is to get off track with a computer in your room. Sitting down to do homework ends hours later with an essay barely started.
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Post » Tue Feb 16, 2010 6:50 pm

I guess I should have qualified my post with a "3.0 in CM Classes: College merit. ie: The smart kid classes. At least in my HS. In my HS, there were 3 levels of classes: CM, which were for kids intent on going to college, and had the brains for it. You had General course, which was for the average kids who might or might not go to college, but it would likely be nothing more then a community college. And then you had what I call(because I can't remember the actual name) Tech Classes: This is for the kids who didn't give a crap even if they graduated from High school, if they didn't, they'd just grab their GED and be happy.

In 11th/12th grade, people in CM level classes had the option to take AP classes(advanced placement classes there were literally the equivalent of what you'd take in college, and even gave you college credits). Also in 11th/12th grade, the General course and Tech Class kids had the option to go to a Vocational School where they could be trained for a job directly.

I was in CM, and I fully expect both of my daughters to take CM(I'll probably even push for them to take AP classes, even though I didn't, I got lazy by 11th grade and I regret it to this day), so if they get a 3.0, I'll damn well be happy that they got a 3.0 in CM classes. Yes, I do think all those classes are weighted, so their actual GPA might be higher then a 3.0
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Post » Tue Feb 16, 2010 2:49 pm

Their house, their rules.

If they wish to be reasonable about it, you can attempt to show them that nothing you do now, or would do, on your computer is in any way a risk to you personally or academically, or to anybody in the family. But if the matter is not open to discussion, you have a choice between doing as you are told and doing as you are told.

If you were one of my children and you had a 3.0, I would be very concerned that you were neglecting your studies

i can agree with the their house their rules on this issue, but i cannot agree with the whole neglecting your studies with a 3.0 GPA
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Post » Tue Feb 16, 2010 3:19 pm

if i was a parent i would allow it but would damn sure be checking up on what they surf for or for that matter who they interact with. to many creepy people online these days. just take a look at this forum. :)
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Post » Tue Feb 16, 2010 5:44 pm

To me, a solid 3.0 is meh. Its definitely not bad, but I wouldn't call it "good" either. However, the OP said "3.0+", which could mean hes anything from 3.0 to 3.99. Anyways, I don't think it matters, as hes not failing.

What I would do is negotiate a trial period with your parents. Convince them to let you have it in your room for a month, and that if they don't like the arrangement they can take it back outside. Since you're not in school right now, the computer can't impact your grades, so they can't cite that reason. Tell them that you're going to limit your activity to X hours per day, and pay extra attention to your chores. They will either be convinced that you can handle it or forget what the arrangement was like before and not bother putting it back.
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Post » Wed Feb 17, 2010 3:48 am

Sitting down to do homework ends hours later with an essay barely started.

That's not the computer's fault. It's the person's for having no self control.

I'm 16 and have my computer in my room and finished school with no missing assignments and 3.75 with honors.

As long as your parents make sure you get all your work done, it shouldn't be a big deal if you have a computer in your room.
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Post » Wed Feb 17, 2010 2:16 am

That's not the computer's fault. It's the person's for having no self control.


Doesn't matter. And I am a strong believer in taking personal responsibility. So yes its the persons fault, and in this case mine, but the computer makes it way to easy for something like that do happen. There's a ton of other reasons why I wouldn't allow a kid of mine a computer/tv in their room.
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He looks like some kind of biker, alien, zombie, vampire hybrid with dreadlocks.

Basically, that's him. Yeah. Spoofing every cliché from the dork age of comics in one character. ^_^
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Post » Tue Feb 16, 2010 7:34 pm

If it would be because of distractions I can understand the parents' reasoning. If it's because of the you-know-what, I think that's ridiculous. Nothing a parent can really do to stop that. If he would want to look up you-know-what bad enough, he'd find a way, even if it was in the family room with parental controls.
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Post » Tue Feb 16, 2010 5:31 pm

That's not the computer's fault. It's the person's for having no self control.

I'm 16 and have my computer in my room and finished school with no missing assignments and 3.75 with honors.

As long as your parents make sure you get all your work done, it shouldn't be a big deal if you have a computer in your room.


Note to self: Sabotage Suffca's senior year. The good ol' set up of grenades drugs in a locker should do the trick. :evil:

Anyway I feel that self control is great and all, but a lot of people don't have the amount needed to forgo the computer and all the memes and bewbz contained inside it to do homework.
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Post » Wed Feb 17, 2010 2:47 am

Did you pay for it?
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Post » Tue Feb 16, 2010 7:48 pm

Did you pay for it?

He already said (like six times :P) that he built it himself.
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