No. I have my own computer and I dropped out. That's obviously what will happen to anyone else.

I've had a computer in my room since I was 7.

3.8 Validictorian, if that means anything in relation to computers.

As far as I'm concerned, I couldn't have done nearly as well as I did without my PC, since I used it (hurray for word processors. Writing 5+ pages svcks) and the internet very often to help with my school work (and no, not cheating. Like I'd trust anyone on the internet with my school work).

And to pwn noobs.

Your child would just clear their history when they're finished looking at sixah naked wimminz.


In my own case, when I was 14, my parents installed a parental firefox add-on. I disabled it using safe mode in one day. They found out through a keylogger they had on my computer(which I removed, ofc), and they proceeded to install a near-impossible to break secure control. Can't remember what it was called, but I struggled with it using proxies for a few months, and then I figured out how to remove it by deleting from the registry. Since then I've had no trouble.

The moral of the story is not to try.

As I showed earlier in this thread, a parent could just watch a child's Internet activity in real-time if they want to.

Really, only surveillance on the network side is 100% guaranteed. Otherwise the child can just boot off a live CD and get away scotch free. :shrug:

if i was your parent, i would have taken the computer away after you disabled the firefox addon by using safe-mode, and not try the next attempt to monitor

lol, you think you have it bad, I cant even connect my Xbox 360 to the internet when im in my room. Without internet, it can be in there. And I offered to pay for the freaking wireless router! lol. im 17.

If I were a parent though... Well, do to the fact that im 17, and havent had expierences with a child of my own, I would say it depends on the kid, and history ect. If the kid is a brat, or has a bad reputation.. No.. but YOU in specific? As long as your not in your room for hours on end, and I dont hear weird noises, or have the FBI knocking on my door then i think it wouldnt hurt anything... majorly...

If it was my child I would probably give him a pat on the back, but then 2 months of grounding for failing to cover their tracks. Telling them that a failure to spoof the surveillance is as bad as setting it off in the first place as removal is just as obvious.

Of course I wouldn't bother spying on my kid in a sinister way to begin with.

That's the awesome thing about being a kid. Even if you buy whatever you have, as long as it resides in your parents house they can do whatever they please. It svcks but that's the way the world works. Until you're paying for the house, electric and internet there isn't much you can do. I'm guessing they took it out of your room because they want to use it themselves which is silly. As for being distracted, that's an easy fix. Just make him go somewhere else in the house but his room and then he can't get distracted by the computer. I also sometimes think parents have their expectations too high for their kids.

I think they are more worried about him looking at porm. Just saying, it sounds like something a parent of a teenager would worry about.

Depends on the moral stance on that matter of the parents. I've known parents that have told their kids "Just don't go to the dodgy ones that give you viruses" :shrug:

Depends on the kid really though if the kid has not been discipline enough then they should not have a private computer in their room, more so if they have a history as a trouble maker. I myself am responsible with good grades and taking AP classes and I'm still not allowed to have internet access in my room but you could try explaining that you are responsible enough to have internet access especially if you are willing to pay for it.

I'm a little perplexed on the concept of having an age limit on a computer in a bedroom. I guess if your parents are really strict but my parents were pretty strict when I was that age and they didn't mind me having my own computer in my room. Weird.

It would be different if you wanted them to buy one for you, but if you payed for it with all of your own money then you definitely should be allowed.

In fact I was just listening to the radio yesterday when they were talking to a child psychologist about when kids should be allowed free access to different technology, and he was saying that if your kids are 15+, mostly well behaved, and have actually paid for the goods themselves then by over restricting them you are probably doing more harm than good, and only trying to hide your own (mostly irrational) insecurities as a parent.
On the other hand if you do convince them to give it to you, and then you fail a class, or start selling body parts on ebay or something, then yeah, they have every right to take it away.

I'd let my kid have one, because I'd check there history to see where they have been.

Personally, especially in this case, I wouldn't do any of that. If they built the computer on their own and screw it up by going to dodgy sites, then they reap what they sow. In addition, spying on your children is just despicable. Either you trust them fully or you don't trust them at all. Anything else is just bad parenting.

Even if you trust them it don't matter. When I was 14 my whole family thought I was a saint, but really I was a piece of [censored] that did every thing my parents told me not to do.

Unless they deleted the history. oo:

if you are paying for it then of course. Id recommend a good laptop over a desktop or tower computer. Laptops are just as good and have the positive side of being portable. As for the age thing I was 17 when i got my laptop. Of course your old enough man. At your age your parents should be glad you want to spend your money on a computer and not alcohol and other things like me.

They don't really care that much, they just shrug it off.

Built it yes, he said that already. But did he pay for it with birthday money from mom and dad, did his parents buy the parts or did he get a job, buy all the parts and then find out he wasn't allowed to have it in his room?

Slight difference but it's not just semantics, the parents have a right as his guardian to determine what's best for him. Yeah, it svcks sometimes, but maybe they see he's not as sociable, his grades were 4.0 now they're 3.1...

From the parents perspective they could see it as a real detriment.

For the record, if I had a 16 year old kid who I allowed to buy parts for and build a computer, yeah I'd let him have it in his room. And it doesn't matter how many times they delete the history, you just check the registry.

I went from a 2.6 to a 3.0 2 quarters ago, and it's just gone up again.

Yeah... only problem with this is basically you are shattering any trust your kids have for you, and therefore the "I hate you" starts.


I don't think even IE stores history in the registry anymore. MS thinks that is too messy.

What is with all the mistrust with you people and your kids? Imma gonna track down all your kids and teach them http://lifehacker.com/5554136/hide-your-entire-operating-system-from-prying-eyes

They think you're looking at porm. It's irrational for them to not let you put it in your room just for that reason. I mean, it's TOO easy already; just putting the computer in your room isn't going to make a whole lot of difference.

when I have kids I'll be parent first and friend second.

You have a very warped view if you think trust is something parents shouldn't have... :rolleyes: