Actually, it's only one person who did it. And even then, the murder was a morale grey. Wrongful act with righteous intent. Had he not killed that ranger, Westside, which is quite civilized despite it's being down on it's luck, would no longer have fresh clean water to drink and grow crops. It's sad that that ranger was killed, but it's a pragmatic choice. Take one life to save countless more. Don't be so narrow minded. In many real world situations, you have to sacrifice some lives to save myriads more. It's grim, but that's the truth.

If you needs ammunition for energy weapons or a simple quick fix on power armour, they are your friends.

If you stick to lore over supplies, do humanity the favor with a seriers of Fat Mines & exploding pants. They are not like the D.C. chapter, if anything they have fallen from their proper path.

Genocide +1.

I get this.... Despite all that I've said against the Mojave BoS when taking the Yes Man or NCR path and not actively roleplaying I rarely have the heart to destroy them. Poor Veronica.

Ya know, the good thing about shaping your own New Vegas is being able to shape your own New Vegas
So, just do whatever you want. It is *your* New Vegas.



Such "what if" scenarios are entirely subjective to its respective makers, though

Yes. Do it with Veronica as a companion and do it all with sneak attacks and the turret defences se to BoS personnel, this will keep Veronica as a companion and your Rep with them at Idolized or Liked

thats like saying the legions ok because they have good intentions, hmm, the followers are much like the legion i think

Like the Legion? O rly? Do they crucify people? Do they enslave people?
No, they try their best they can to help the ordinary people.
Who are you to judge good and bad when you are slaughtering a whole faction just because you weren't happy with the behaviour of a single member?
You're a lot more evil than Anderson ever was.
Anderson had regrets for the person he killed, you however butcher wthout mercy.
I mean, not that this is problem, i just find it amazing how some people still consider themselves being morally "good", despite all the atrocities they're able to perform

Oh God. Don't go with that whole 'YOU'RE JUSTIFYING NAZISM!' arguement style. The Legion is blatently good intentions gone wrong. The Followers are good people. Of the people in game, the only Follower we see do bad is Anderson, and it was ONE crime, and even that crime was for noble intentions. NCR does far worse things. They over tax people, force innocent people off their land, and corruption is rampant in their government. Tom Anderson looks like a choir boy according to what the NCR have done. Seriously, don't go with those 'That guy has dogs, Hitler had a dog, SO HE MUST BE HITLER!', they make you look terrible at discussions. There is always going to be a situation to where there is no good or bad situation. Say you had a family and couldn't afford to feed them, would you steal the embezzelle the money from the company you work for, knowing that it's wrong, but it saves your family, or do you let your family starve, knowing you could have saved them? Same situation applies here.

Caesar still does consider himself good, despite falling astray. Just goes to show the concept of morale 'good' is subjective.

Lol
The Legion are good, just because they go about it with a no tolerence and Iron Fist approach doesn't make it any less so, would you rather the criminal the Legion kill were left to their own devices in the Wastes, bound to kill tens or hundreds more people?
Like the Anderson scenario, that was the right think to do because it hinders NCR's monopoly of the water supply AND saves countless lives in Westside - alright blaming the Scorpions might be bad but they have dedicated their lifes to crime and would kill more than they'd save so they needed wiping out. The deaths of a Ranger and a criminal gang are well worth the lifes of Westside and it's citizens.
Tell me now, are you not exactly the same as Anderson and the Legion now? Afterall you did just wipe out the Followers and openly admit it, no doubt you have killed many more people and innocent animals across your travels.

Honestly if you are doing an indie playthrough there is no reason in game or lore wise to destroy the BoS. Technically if you join them New Vegas becomes BoS controlled as you (a member of the BoS) controls New Vegas...

So what we're seeing here people, is destroy the BOS if you're NCR, Legion or House, if you're Indie keep em'!

As NCR I always, and I mean always, make peace between the BoS and the NCR.

Yep me too, its their problem now.

I don't see any reason they would attack the strip for one of my characters, since you can . I always try to keep them alive and have them help the NCR, even though I just kick the NCR out with Ceasar.

They'll attack the Strip no matter if you join them or not because you are not their leader, and are still effectively the outsider.
Reasons for attacking the Strip 1) NCR Embassay, granted McCarran is between HV and the Embassay. 2) House has the technology to live for what could possibly be forever, though that's more FotA tech, that mainframe also has control over the whole Securitron Army - which is definitely a Brotherhood interest, especially if they have the Mk.II system upgrade.

2 perfectly good reasons to attack the Strip after the Battle of Hoover Dam since the NCR would be weakened - even if they won - and House would have been dispatched of.

Always save them (unless playing for House or legion where that's not an option).
They make great NCR allies.

*shudder*
That never happend.
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While your logic is solid, none of that is supported by the ending slides.

Yes it did......the MWBOS are part of official Fallout lore.

Don't confuse Fallout Brotherhood of Steel: Tactics with Fallout: Brotherhood of Steel---which is the game we all hate.

Tactics has an awesome storyline.

This

Tactics is actually my favorite of the three original fallouts.

As for the BoS I like to keep them alive if i can, but i have destroyed them on about half of my playthroughs due to siding with the legion/house.

Pfft. It's not part of my lore. And my understanding is that the original Fallout creators and the creators of Van Buren Fallout 3 considered Fallout Tactics non-canon. And don't get me started on hairy deathclaws or the departure from the trademark retro-future.


I remember those dark days clearly... at the time the reception of Tactics among Fallout fans was about on par with BoS. Just like NMA saw FO3, it was the 'action' game that Interplay stuck us with instead of a 'real' Fallout.
It shows you just how hard FO:BoS svcked, that it made Tactics seem good.

Exactly this.

My current Playthrough the Brotherhood have Eyebot Technology to develope an army of eyebots, plus they get Helios One Back in the end. Legion and NCR gets Annihilated and the Technology of New Vegas security system, Yes man and Hoover Dam is under the Watchfull eye of The Brotherhood and my Paladin Courier.

IMO a decent Broherhood of Steel ending.

Just because a minute and a half slide didn't tell you, doesn't mean it won't happen, it's the nature of the Brotherhood and it's the path they will persue at some point simply because if they are allies with NCR or even the Courier/Yes-Man they will undoubtably have access onto the the Strip, unless their weapons and armour are taken from them, they will force entry to the Lucky 38.

That's enough to tell me they'd start following those roads into Vegas.

I suppose that your lore is something different from Fallout lore then? The MWBOS are mentioned in Fallout 3 so we know they exist.


That was before Van Buren was cancelled. Now Bethesda's official position on tactics is that the "high level" events of the storyline are canon.

Yeah, something else I was thinking is that once the BoS decided to make a play for Vegas, there's no destroying them like you can in game. If they seize Helios with it's defense systems, Black Mountain with it's singals array (which I'm sure could be used to track your securitrons) and a heavily defensible bunker, it'd be extremely difficult to dislodge them with bulky Securitrons, which are much more so made for open combat. Plus that'd be a situation when they could bring in reinforcements, as they have a defensible position and a real prize (the strip and the dam) to win without NCR or Legion interference. If you're going to destroy the BoS, it's when they trust you in game, or never.

The Brotherhood die or get chased away in each ending unless they team up with NCR or are left alone in the Indie ending.
Even if you help them they still get taken out.