I think we should get paid monthly if we join military, surely we don't join military for free isn't it?

Since TES have day, week and month system, i see no problem if applying salary system.

Our salary rise as we rise in ranks, let say 200 gold/month for a recruit, 500 gold/month for auxiliary, 750 gold/month for Legionnaire, 1250 gold/month for Praetorian or whatever

I am a Legionnaire, i live and die for the Empire, but i don't get paid and there is no pension

I assume you're referring to the Civil War, of which there's countless threads dissecting the problems within both sides.

But this is an interesting thread of thought nevertheless. I rather like the idea of actually drawing a salary based on rank as a soldier in the local army/militia. Even if the quest design is fundamentally the same (Go to dungeon, kill target) you can really create a unique identity within a faction outside of the quest using ideas like this.

On the whole, factions in Skyrim are kind of shoehorned in. Usually they have one phenomenally good idea within, that never really carries the guild past its weaknesses. The Dark Brotherhood fares the best of course so isn't particularly applicable.

Within the companions you have the sense of provenance that comes with the History of Skyrim. But it's squandered very quickly.

Within the Civil War, you've got the conquest/liberation/reunification going as you capture forts.

Thieves Guild has the revival of the guild itself, and the only time when becoming "Master" feels meaningful.

College of Winterhold has one of the best quests/tutorials ever, and if they had carried that model to more instances, it would have sold the "College" aspect. (The Ward tutorial, did anyone else actually learn how to use wards from that like I did?)

You know, this reminds me of the Battlecruiser series -they had a salary system, depending on your 'alter-ego's' rank. But you didn't exactly need it -all you had to do was camp a gate and money would literally come to you, in the form of cargo pods

in all reality, you serve the Legion, but you are not a Legionnaire..


you are a Militia member working under the Authority of the Legion...

think about it, no pay, didn't go through boot-camp, you are not reassigned after the CW ends, you have no authority over anyone else, can't arrest criminals...


in all reality, you are not a true member of the Legion. you are Simply a member of the Militia forces underneath the Empire..



Militia members rarely get paid, they do what they do to protect/defend their land/city/town/farm

Wish that were an option. Maybe just the satisfaction of joining the Legion? You do get Daedric weaponry if you're a high level?

A regular sallery would be nice, but unless I am mistaken we do get paid every time we report back to Tullius/Ulfric.

It doesn't even feel like you're in the Legion to begin with.

Thats why you're given offical Legion ranks and are addressed as such when talking to other soldiers :/ Think about it.. if you were constantly reassigned to new posts you would never get time to do anything else.

I know that i don't want to end up begging at the street in Solitude as old war veteran..."have pity for an old war veteran...?"

Yes we get paid when we report to them but that look like more a mercenary than a real soldier.

Oh, but you do "join" the Legion. You rise through the ranks, do you not?

Well, I've never joined the Legion myself, but you do "join" Stormcloaks, so a salary system would be pretty good.

Legates aren't just a formality thing. You get appointed Legate by the end of the CW.

Helgen was boot camp.

If there was salary I feel like the Stormcloaks should be similar to most Civil wars or revolutions, out gunned and out manned and out moneyed.

During the American Revolution the Continental army wasn't paid until the end of the war and even though they won, they still had to come up with the money to pay them. Riots and another possible uprising alos came up when the Government was unable to come up with the coin. If They were to do this then they'd need to flesh out a lot of other things involving the Civil War.

It would be great if civil war worked like in Mount and Blade. You enlist, you get paid, you gather an army and take over settlements, then get rewarded either in funds or fiefs.

i think CW quests should be longer that take months in game to complete, like Pistolero said, gathering allies/army, reinforce cities, take over settlements, increasing garrisons, patrolling the border, sabotaging economy, raiding villages (muahahahaha evil option)....then there should be open battle between Imperial and Stormclock somewhere and we can use the allies we get along the way, after that we move on capturing forts and cities and the last one confront Ulfric/Tulius in open battle near Windhelm/Solitude

We gain ranks along the way and get salary as according to our ranks.

Being a Dragonborn or no, still we need pensions or we could end up on the street in rags

Edit : Of course we can choose not to pursue all quests and stay in our rank for any reason, so we get salary as according to our rank. We can just stay patrolling areas in the mean time doing other quests and such thing

It feels like all the cogs are in place for something like that, but they don't all quite move together right. You definitely have a similar "Conquer Fort-Castle to claim territory" but there's just a lack of a dynamic element to the Civil War. I'm not sure if it's technically beyond the ability of Skyrim to trigger a random(ish) quest where a Fort (In the case of a City, I'm almost positive it is out of the question) can come under attack again.

As much as I want to poke more holes in your opinion by saying things like "Well, that isn't appealing to a lot of people", isn't that kind of the point of Guilds? The Faction/guild has a certain style of play that appeals to a particular player's sensibilities. I probably wouldn't enjoy a merchant's guild that has you negotiate trade contracts, muscle out competitors and run caravans to the frontier (Actually, I'd like the hell out of that,after all, Hlaalu was my favorite GH in Morrowind) but I'd sure be grateful for the opportunity.

You are supposed to join primarily for the love of Skyrim or Empire, or see that one side is the best option for Skryim. Historically recruits were poorly paid, if at all. Many were "paid" by the understanding that they could [censored] and pillage whatever it was that they conquered. No victory, no pay.

Not in this case, no. It's proven that even Stormcloaks pay their soldiers. Nuts, but still pay nevertheless.

So I assume that the Legion too, otherwise the ones in garrison won't have any pay

We http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Skyrim:Rigel%27s_Letter that the Legion pays more than the Stormcloaks. Seems that Ulfric's forces are able to pay some sort of salary, but that is probably because he started with a hold under his control and gained several more when the war started for real.

Yeah, that would be interesting. Could have some diplomacy options too, if the opposing faction didn't already hold the place with soldiers stationed there, making a deal with the local populace.

When we turn into a legate on the imperial side we're basically told that we're retiring in a way, our services aren't required anymore and for that we're basically on an extended leave. Same could be said for turning into a general for the stormcloaks, neither side will officially appoint us to a garrison. Though I would love the idea of being put in charge of a garrison and getting a salary, would've been a nice perk for completing the civil war, especially if we get to choose which fort to take over and had the options to expand and rebuild it.

If I had that option, I'd go for a garrison in Falkreath. Good place to start, reinforcing the southern border and Pale Pass, then move on to the northern border. Then focus on everything else.

Stormcloaks should get paid with leg of goat and mead :3

Guessing from their rewards that would be a heavy strain on their resources

Yeah, Tullius gave my a Daedric Sword of Drain Health