is reno like The strip.

Bigger, if you can believe that, and more populous, really detailed, the best example of the great benefits of the map node system on the individual nodes.

No I wouldn't say that. It's a town run by four diffrent families and has that good old mafia feel and a very very well made quest

It depends on the Coast, in the west, it goes:

* Apprentice Knight
* Journeyman Knight
* Senior Knight
* Head Knight



* Apprentice Scribe
* Journeyman Scribe
* Senior Scribe
* Head Scribe



* Junior Paladin
* Paladin
* Senior Paladin
* Head Paladin

* Elder
* High Elder
Scribes are responsible for copying the ancient technologies, maintaining the current technology and even experimenting with new weapons and other useful devices. Scribes rarely leave the safety of the BoS bunkers, but they are sometimes called into the field to examine a piece of technology or perform a task beyond the skills of the Brotherhood soldiers. Knights are responsible for manufacturing the weapons and other pieces of technology, although they also take part in combat activities. Paladins are in charge of all security and outside activities.

In the Midwest:

Military
* Initiate Initiate
* Senior Initiate
* Squire Squire
* Senior Squire
* Junior Knight
* Knight Knight
* Senior Knight
* Knight Commander
* Junior Paladin
* Paladin Paladin
* Paladin Commander
* Paladin Lord
* General
* Elder


Civilians
* Civilian
* Scribe

It should be noted The Midwestern Brotherhood of Steel has a rank system that differs from the original Brotherhood ranks. In the Midwest, the Scribes act as both scientists and engineers, taking the place of both Western Scribes and Knights. Midwestern Knights are just a military rank lower in the hierarchy than Paladins (even lower one being Squire) and are not allowed to use Power Armors.

In the East:

Military
* Squire
* Initiate
* Knight
* Paladin
* Knight Sergeant
* Knight Captain
* Star Paladin
* Sentinel
* Elder

Civilian
* Scribe
* High Scribe
* Head Scribe

The Capital Wasteland detachment utilizes a slightly different system than the original Brotherhood out west, for instance, the Paladins are not a separate caste but a rank. Paladins are leaders of squads or elite warriors and must earn their rank. Knight Sergeants are in command of larger groups of knights and paladins, or in command of a base like Knight Sergeant Wilks. The next rank, Knight Captain, is given veteran soldiers and they command their own base and troops, but only in some cases: 3 of the 4 known Knight Captains are in Lyons Pride. The fourth, Knight Captain Durga, is head of supply. In this splinter faction, the Head Paladin is instead titled "Star Paladin".

For some reason, this all makes sense to me Epic, though i like the East system the best, it stuck with me the most.) :thumbsup:

I thought you old "dinosuars" would love this.

I know i did.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IuBjeLiWhek&NR=1

:rofl:

Also if you play one of the older games it is crucial that you change combat speed to fastest, otherwise a gecko will take 5 minutes to kill

Are you kidding me why would it take that long are they like super powerful.

No no no nothing like that but if you don't change the combat speed in the options menu every turn will take forever, move the slider to fastest When the slider is at fastest you can rush trough every fight or take your time if you want. When you change the slider the opponent and you will move faster so you won't have to sit and watch a ant walk towards at .1 mph

so it does this stuff automacticly and you pretty much watch the fight and you cant do anything?

no? Im not sure if I understand you. Here's a video of some combat http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D-D-u8HJhM4

omg that seems severly long and tiring. Does it ever get like faster. It seems like i would be sitting there for a hour trying to take out one enemy.

Nah that seems to take a long time. I personally don't like turnbased but if you can live with it you'll enjoy the older games a lot

Yah. I couldnt imagine how long it would take to kill a boss. Have you even played the orgininals?

Yes only fallout 2 it's fun and the bosses, damn frank horrigan took forever! Seriously.

Fights don't take that long, everything is much more brutal in the originals. Any way if you thought that was funny try FO2 as a [censored] and talk to Torr.

yah i seen him. that musteve really svcked. thats turn based for ya.

Lol can that happen in F3 or FNV if you put down your Intelligence to like one. Would you be like a mentally challenged person(in the game).

Torr in klamatha? Gotta try it



Well it's definitly not as bad as some people seem to think, it's okay. I like real time more but if a good game is turnbased it's still a good game.

Yeah, since Torr is also dumb you both grunt, speak nonsense at each other and it has a "translation" that's hilarious.

http://images.wikia.com/fallout/images/2/26/Scr00000.JPG

Screenshot example.


Epic, there is no stupid dialog in FO3, and it's limited but there in NV.

Thats said i rather enjoyed when the Choosen one/what ever person from the vualt was talking to the overserer that was a classic.

But epic seriously thou, try 'em out the only thing you might get dissepointed at is the combat but the game will still be awesome. :goodjob:

(got to admit epic, that was classic footage you found.) :thumbsup:

I only think combat is slow in TB Fallout when you run into some encounter with a lot of animals or something, and their animation is really slow. What takes the longest then is watching all your enemies move. Like if you try to shoot someone in say the Den, then EVERYONE will move. I mean everyone, every civilian will flee - in turn-based! And them drug addicts move really really slow.

That's why you put combat at the fastest. Turn-based can be really intense when you have a few companions and fight a huge bunch of, say, slavers. It will be easier for you if you think of it as in real-time, but then think that the pauses given to you is like when the world slows down for your brain to react to a lot of different factors like how many enemies are there, where are they, how far away are they, what weapons do they use, can they hit me from here, do I have any companions, are they close enough to hit the enemies, and things like that. It's like in real life, when you find yourself in a similar situation, you notice that your brain will think of a hundred things at the same time. This is reflected in turn-based by giving you your turn to think of all these things and plan out your move (should I shoot the guy closest to me, who I have biggest chance of killing, or should I shoot the guy with an SMG who is further away but will be a pain in the ass if he's alive? Or should I take this turn to heal? I do have only 26HP. Over there, there's a bunch of 4 slavers running out of that door, how long will it take for them to get here, and will I be able to kill these two guys before that and take cover? Or will they go for my two companions? Will my companions manage? One of them is in close combat over there against three guys, and needs help but I don't have action points to save him and help myself. I hope they won't start killing the hostage soon, aswell. Wow, I thought of a lot of things that I would never have time for in real-time! )

Buy the trilogy pack, it's like $20. I'd recommend Fallout 2 with Killap's Restoration Project downloaded (which will add back all planned or cut content, and fix bugs and alot of that stuff) but Fallout 1 is also important to understand the lore. Fallout Tactics is cool in that the combat is much better and faster. It has something called Continuous Turn Based, which means that moving your squad won't take AP, but by doing all the other actions, like shooting, it will. So you won't have to take turns to shoot at each other, enemies and allies will always do that when they have AP. When they move, the AP will stop to replenish untill you take cover, wait for it to fill up and you can shoot again. It's alot more action, and makes AP still have a great purpose for the game. I love it! So if there ever will be another Fallout game that will not be an FPS, make it have CTB!

This ^

Its a culture shock at first but after a bit it is really fun.