Should Kahjiit go on all fours when Sneaking? : V - Skyrim

» Sun May 29, 2011 1:22 am

I find it hard to believe they'd put a bunch of time into making a custom animation just for one race's sneaking.

Aha but whose to say those animations would be applied to Werewolves and other such creatures? Sure, a little modification of the animation to suit each, mostly the same though. Isn't too far fetched in my opinion, though I'll agree its doubtful we'll see this from Beth.

» Sat May 28, 2011 3:30 pm

We don't know what type we'll be playing Skyrim though. I believe there was something mentioned about different body types in regards to character creation? If so we might be able to select what manner of Khajiit we play as.

Yes, we may be able to choose between an Ohmes-raht looking body or a Suthay-raht looking body, but there's no way we'd be able to have the body of an Alfiq, or Senche-raht, or Pahmar etc. They won't let us be any Khajiit, especially since they don't even have lore established for them all.

» Sat May 28, 2011 6:55 pm

After that thread title I need a very cold shower...

However I don't know what anims they're using for sneak, so if it can be based on race and where they're sneaking, or what on it would be fun.
Off to think about cat woman now.

» Sat May 28, 2011 6:09 pm

How would he pick locks or pickpocket?

My initial thoughts. I think it would be appropriate if they went on all fours if they were running but sneaking seems difficult.

» Sat May 28, 2011 11:58 am

They wouldn't be able to sneak attack either

» Sat May 28, 2011 10:36 pm

Assuming they keep the Suthay-raht subspecies as the playable khajiits, no. They are antrophomorphic (=human shaped), so walking on all fours would be just as difficult for them as for humans :shrug:

» Sun May 29, 2011 1:10 am

I like it.

Also some better tail animations would be great.

» Sat May 28, 2011 2:21 pm

They wouldn't be able to sneak attack either

They could, so! They could just go into a slight to-legged crouch and then attack...
I want it, I hope for it, I don't expect it...
I'm personally hoping for a more cat-like khajit subspicies...

» Sat May 28, 2011 2:02 pm

After that thread title I need a very cold shower...

However I don't know what anims they're using for sneak, so if it can be based on race and where they're sneaking, or what on it would be fun.
Off to think about cat woman now.

Oh I bet you do want them to go down on all fours don′t you :wink_smile:

But as has been stated with their build they would only be hampered by their long legs when it comes to sneaking on all fours, so please don′t make them go on all fours. They may have the facial features of an animal but their legs don′t agree, nor do their hands or the length of their back, heck with all the walking around on two legs I bet their tails are even designed to help keep balance on two legs rather than 4 so a Kahjiit toppling over stumbling with bad balance would seem pretty bad for a sneak.

» Sat May 28, 2011 11:41 am

Voted yes, but I really gotta ask: is that lore-accurate?

» Sat May 28, 2011 11:11 pm

It would be something nice, but not necessary. I personally would not want it in, but that's only because I'm usually playing first-person as an assassin. In Oblivion, I looked at my Khajiit Listener in third-person because of how badass I looked, but other than that, it was always first-person. If third-person feels nice, then I would say yes.

Summary:

No, unless third-person feels good enough to use over first.

» Sat May 28, 2011 7:53 pm

Voted yes, but I really gotta ask: is that lore-accurate?

Two subspecies of kahjit are used as mounts, and another species is said to be nearly looking exactly like a cat... so I say yes!

» Sat May 28, 2011 11:46 pm

No, unless they are naturally the four legged kind. The kinds we usually get to play as are humanoid and are not built for walking on all fours any more than humans are. Moreover, walking on all fours increases the number of limbs impacting the ground increasing the noise and tracks involved, as well as limiting the weapons or tools of use while sneaking.

Overall I just don't like the idea.

» Sat May 28, 2011 6:43 pm

Not necessarily. There are several different types of Khajiits, some that are barely distinguishable from a cat in behavior and movement. It's not too farfetched to say that Khajiits would choose to sneak in this manner.

I'd support seeing it, it would be a cool little addition to the game. However, I highly doubt this will happen. I find it hard to believe they'd put a bunch of time into making a custom animation just for one race's sneaking.

True, multiple Khajiit types are four legged, two of the sub types who walk on two has so short legs they could walk on four with little problem however they would not work with standard clothing and armor and would require their own meshes, far more work than the sneak animation.
Only difference in Morrowind was bottom of legs and head.

For werewolf's it would be real cool and they don't use clothing anyway.

» Sat May 28, 2011 5:39 pm

Argonians should too. basically beast races should.

Also if they'd add a sprinting option then they should make them run on all fours (kindof like werewolf in bloodmoon)

» Sat May 28, 2011 4:33 pm

thats amazing! since khajjit gets bonus for sneaking! thats where they got it from! because they walk with the four hands! they move much faster, and do praticaly no sound while doing it! I WOULD MOD FOR IT!

» Sun May 29, 2011 12:59 am

Khajiit should always be on their knees.

» Sat May 28, 2011 9:17 pm

I voted yes.

Would make them more different from the other races.

» Sat May 28, 2011 9:36 pm

All fours dagger in mouth, sounds good.

» Sat May 28, 2011 11:05 am

I personally can't see why they should... Some breeds of Khajit do, but they have not done so far, and I think it would alter the animation for sneaking for that one race (maybe also Argonians if while we are at it?) too much compared to the human and elven races. In my opinion...

Would like to see some improvement in sneaking animation for all races, however... :toughninja:

» Sun May 29, 2011 2:34 am

Yes!

They should go on all fours at all times. I would also prefer if they all were leashed, since I wouldn't want those animals running around free in the city.

» Sat May 28, 2011 9:59 pm

It would be hard to do with a weapon drawn.

» Sat May 28, 2011 11:02 pm

Yes!

Really cool idea, too.

» Sat May 28, 2011 6:37 pm

If Khajiit were another species (or even better, another family), then going on all fours might be nice, but they're not; they are just another race of people.

» Sat May 28, 2011 12:21 pm

If Khajiit were another species, then going on all fours might be nice, but they're not.

There are around 15 subspecies, atleast three who walks on all four... two of those three are used as mounts in elsweyre, man I can't wait for a game in that province... riding a kahjit... like a dream come true... riding a kahjit, into a tree...