You don't need a quote man, it is their business to know when all their competitor titles are being released. There is no possible way that they did not know there would be another COD in November 2011.

They chose 11.11.11 very carefully

No cause I do buy the CoD games to play with my friends online, I'll gladly skip MW3 to play Skyrim. Now if they want to release it like 2 weeks early then I'm cool with that.

If they delay it, I will march to Bethesda with torches and spears and every riot machine used in the barbaric ages, and demand the game.

You've been warned!


(Trust me after this menacing post, they won't delay it :wink_smile: )

But I don't think they were expecting it 3 days before Skyrim. Another week is fine, but 3 days before?!

MW2 online was a mess because of the hacks and the community exploiting OMA and the Tubes. If you play it now, it's an amazing thing. BO was very boring for me and all the weapons felt the same. I'm gonna check out MW3, I said I wasn't gonna buy BO off the bat but I did and I'll probably do the same with MW3

How bout they push back MW3 Cuz skyrim is going to more than likely be the better game. of the two, which is more likely to win G.O.T.Y? my bet is on Skyrim.

Two trailers?

modern warfare 3? ha... BATTLEFIELD 3 is where its at

Well when you put it like that....
Look at it this way.
That's exactly 100% of the trailers. :hubbahubba:

Yea, I agree with pretty much everything you've said, but when people start talking about things like this I worry.

If someone theorizing that a game is going to get delayed makes you a nervous wreck I don't know what to say.
I'll be plenty busy at uni by then making game environments to worry about Skyrim being delayed. I'm a big fan
like you as well.

If anything it will get pushed forward, as I keep saying the game looks nearly finished already. Fallout NV came out in October...
If you want to know what I think on the matter you can look at my posts which keep getting ignored. I'm think the same as Stephen
but I'm more optimistic that the game is not gonna be delayed.

Bethesda love their 11.11.11 so Bethesda must think they can hold up their share of the market. I love their confidence.

Maybe that's why they went with Friday, which is a very unusual day for game releases in the US.

When Bethesda announces their first week sales numbers, they will be talking about the subsequent week, at which point MW3 will be in its second week of release.

Pete said they went with Friday because it was the easiest way to do a simultaneous worldwide launch.

MW3 is more likely to win GOTY honestly

i got bored with Oblivion because of the quest markers, the lack of exploration there was compared to Morrowind, and the fact that people would tell you that a ruin was here on the map but wouldn't be bothered to tell you what road and so on to follow to get there. (resulting in my rock climbing skill being mastered very quickly because I'd go over a mountain rather than around it. oh wait...)

I haven't got bored with Morrowind.

It depends whether elder scrolls are following the same trend as COD. Modern Warfare 2 takes more skill than Oblivion because it requires greater proficiency to be great at the game than Oblivion did. Cod requires amazing reflexes. Oblivion's quests are supposed to require problem solving and investigation, not necessarily particularly good combat skill, and thanks to the quest marker system, for me Oblivion had no challenge. I've said this on this site before, and I'll say it again, a trained monkey could play Oblivion and be as good as the devs. A trained monkey couldn't be as good at Modern Warfare 2 as the developers and gamers with reflexes of a fighter pilot. If Skyrim continues the same dumbing down trend as Oblivion, then I'll go for Modern Warfare 3 every day of the week, because I get what I pay for.

Just to be clear, I would much prefer to play a game that required 'smarts' over reflexes, because my reflexes are pathetic. I'd prefer to buy Skyrim, but only if I can play and compete at being the "best" at it with my mates, as opposed to getting the urge to eat a banana and climb trees every time I play. Being the "best at it" doesn't necessarily mean having a character who can kill a dragon faster, rob a house quicker and so on, but being able to complete that quest that my mate got stuck on because he couldn't follow the in-game clues and work out what to do.

The fact is, at my high school, Oblivion had a reputation of being a nerdy, pointless game. Modern Warfare 2 is the game that was always more widely talked about. There has to be some competitive nature to the game, as opposed to the developers baby sitting the player from start to finish, for the game to be successful. You have to be the best in the world at that game knowing that you could have failed, not knowing that you are sharing the title with every other player.



Call of Duty will have more inter-player competition. The guns and maps are just aesthetic little details, but honestly at the end of the day, the aesthetics don't make a game better or worse. Look at Crysis. It has amazing graphics and so on, but it didn't sell as many units as Modern Warfare

That is true, but it is also going to give them a little bit of an edge when they announce first week sales

This is why a lot of expensive tentpole movies get released on Wednesdays, so they can announce higher totals.

Yeah friday is big here in the UK and the rest of Europe. I think it's payday that's why. End of the week.

Not a chance in the world. It will sell better, but not GotY over Skyrim.

I feel like people on the edge are gonna go Skyrim because CoD games come out every year, while Elder Scrolls games are every 5.

What will Skyrim have? Dragons and a new map? Every genre will hit a wall at some point and only so much can be done

Every chance in the world. Just you wait

I cried from laughing so hard.
Thanks, I needed that.

I've put more time into oblivion than any other game I've ever played (with maybe the exception of FFVII)
Sure, I got bored eventually, but oblivion and RPG's aren't about your own skill as a gamer, it's about your in-game player's skill.


Quite frankly I can't understand why anyone would think this would get pushed back, it has never happened with any game.
Ever.

yup^

You honestly believe that?

I can counter that with a bit of imagination and unique game design. Genres only hit walls because publishers like to stick with familiar ideas that make them the most dosh. It's very risky to try and market new ideas to consumers.