Should I start saving for an upgrade or just buy for PS3?

Post » Tue Apr 06, 2010 7:02 am

With the Specs the OP has, there's no problem at all to run Skyrim, as it requires no more than Oblivion, if not even less because of a new engine.

So, buy it for the PC, and let this thread die. :P
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Post » Tue Apr 06, 2010 8:25 am

I appreciate the big screen plasma, the sitting on the couch etc. But IMHO, nothing compares to mods. When I dl FCOM, it completely changed Oblivion for me. Mods are the differentiator, I'd go PC. Save your money, buy the parts from newegg and build your own. Won't cost that much.
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Post » Tue Apr 06, 2010 8:29 am

They'll work fine on his PC too, but the PS3 can't use mods.


Actually, aren't Bethesda putting down talks with Sony and MS to get the modding community content onto consoles. I mean, I know they said it would probably be further ahead than Skyrim's release too. I'm not saying it's definite, but I'm hopeful.

Sorry, a little off topic there. :S
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Post » Tue Apr 06, 2010 10:52 am

Actually, aren't Bethesda putting down talks with Sony and MS to get the modding community content onto consoles. I mean, I know they said it would probably be further ahead than Skyrim's release too. I'm not saying it's definite, but I'm hopeful.

Sorry, a little off topic there. :S


They're willing to do it apparently (Beth that is), but ultimately it's up to Sony and M$. Sony I could see allowing it. M$... I don't know. I doubt M$ would unless you payed for the mods.
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Post » Tue Apr 06, 2010 10:50 am

Have we gone into really really devoted fan territory again? Not surprising since PS3 is in the title, there would be an incoming console war argument. I think I'll pull up a past quote from someone else in another thread with PS3 in the title.

You can look up image comparisons of almost any multiplatform game. The PS3 sometimes has less grass, and no AA!

Just, the difference! It's astounding! How can anybody bear to play a game with less grass - eugh!

But seriously, I've never understood this. The differences between PS3 and 360 multiplatform games are minor at best. It's like two tricycles arguing who can go faster on a motorway - they're missing the point. Arguing tiny differences that the machines aren't good at anyway is stupid.


1) Since Skyrim is cross platform with no extra goodies for the PC, no reason to upgrade just to play the latest game. Any computer built since Oblivion was made will probably run Skyrim just fine.


More then likely. Though you could argue that Oblivion came out relatively early in both the Xbox 360 and PS3's life cycle, so everyone was still exploring the full potential of those systems. However, any upgrades he would need would probably be cheaper then going out and buying a current gen console just to play Skyrim.

2) Insert disk, Install, play. Not hard. At the most might have to update a driver or 2 which takes like 5 seconds.


Unless the operating system hates you, then you may have to twiddle around with it to get it to run.

3) I run OB with around 120 mods (I think, its a lot) and never crash or have stability issues.


I've heard that some people have had a few minor problems though, and a few more have had some problems with Fallout 3.The thing is PC's these days are designed to carry out numerous tasks, not just play games or other forms of entertainment on, and games are some of the biggest taxers of a computers resources. My uncle once told me, "you wanna play games, get a PlayStation. If you wanna compute, get a computer." To top that off certain anti piracy steps and software used to counter piracy have been known to cause some conflicts. It doesn't happen to everyone mind you, but some folks just get that unlucky combination that doesn't click.

If you have a PC already there really isn't any reason to get the console version. The only real choice is using mods or sitting on the couch while you play more important to you?


Yep, despite what I've said, the PC is really the best route to play an Elder Scrolls game on. And this is coming from a guy who owns the PS3 version of Oblivion, Fallout 3, and Fallout: New Vegas.

Fact is these games were designed for the PC in mind, Todd Howard even confirmed it in his audio interview. That's not to say that they're going to neglect the console ports, or that there going to svck on consoles. But I can think of several reasons why in this case the PC is the better choice

Again if he's got a machine that will require no upgrades or only a graphics card upgrade or some such, that's cheaper then springing for $300 for a new console just to play Skyrim. Not to mention PC games are generally $10 to $20 cheaper then their console counterparts. +he gets mod support. The Elder Scrolls Modding community boast some of the most impressive mods I have ever seen for any PC game. If Bethesda is impressed enough with modders to incorporate what they've done, or even hire them for it, that should tell you something.
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Post » Tue Apr 06, 2010 12:07 pm

Skyrim is designed to run on the same hardware that Oblivion would run on. So if you could run Oblivion on your PC well enough, you should be able to run Skyrim just as well. The only reason to upgrade would be to play Skyrim better than you could play Oblivion.

You are kidding right? if not ... awesome!.

Back to topic: You should probably upgrade you pc.
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Post » Tue Apr 06, 2010 9:57 am

why is it limited to pc or ps3? Xbox 360 is also a console last time i checked.
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Post » Wed Apr 07, 2010 12:41 am

go for the upgrade mods are worth it and the ps3 version will most likely have some problems the other platforms dont
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Post » Tue Apr 06, 2010 6:19 pm

I'm a PC gamer so dyed-in-the-wool that I haven't even invested in a controller (WASD+trackball rocks - actually, I'm too lazy to learn a new control set).

For the OP: if you're into graphics and mods, upgrade, upgrade, upgrade. If those are secondary to the gameplay, invest in a console. No one is making really serious noises about the next-gen consoles yet, so you should be set for a couple of years. If you upgrade, you're going to drop a few Benjamins to upgrade your CPU, graphics and RAM (assuming you don't need a new mobo to support them and your current power supply can handle the load) and that's close to or more than the cost of a shiny new console. It all depends on whether dazzling graphics and mods are worth it (not to mention all of the other wonderful things a PC can do that a console can't).
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Post » Tue Apr 06, 2010 11:06 am

Should I start saving for an upgrade or just buy for PS3?



That's like asking "Should I take the time to properly marinate my steak, or just eat feces instead?"
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Post » Tue Apr 06, 2010 3:09 pm

If you intend to play Skyrim for a long time then get it for the PC. The mods add so much replay value. Try the game first on your current PC, and if the graphical detail isn't good enough get a new graphics card.
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Post » Tue Apr 06, 2010 5:22 pm

why is it limited to pc or ps3? Xbox 360 is also a console last time i checked.



Because the question asked by the OP (thats me) only owns a PS3 and PC.... buying an xBox 360 to play Skyrim when I already have the other two would just be silly now, wouldn't it? Either read the full topic or don't post tyvm :)

I'm a PC gamer so dyed-in-the-wool that I haven't even invested in a controller (WASD+trackball rocks - actually, I'm too lazy to learn a new control set).

For the OP: if you're into graphics and mods, upgrade, upgrade, upgrade. If those are secondary to the gameplay, invest in a console. No one is making really serious noises about the next-gen consoles yet, so you should be set for a couple of years. If you upgrade, you're going to drop a few Benjamins to upgrade your CPU, graphics and RAM (assuming you don't need a new mobo to support them and your current power supply can handle the load) and that's close to or more than the cost of a shiny new console. It all depends on whether dazzling graphics and mods are worth it (not to mention all of the other wonderful things a PC can do that a console can't).


I do have a Microsoft xBox 360 style pad for my PC but I don't think I've used it for anything other then FFXIV which by all accounts svcked balls!

Graphics aren't everything to me although it is nice to have a pretty designed world to explore. I did enjoy some of the Mods for both Morrowind and Oblivion so that could be the decider for me, I think it was just the vast amount of extras that became available..... some bad but also many good ones out there.

I already have a PS3 console so the only cost would be on the Skyrim game for the PS3. So the total cost for me to play Skyrim on PS3 isnt going to be over £50 unless they release some super special collectors edition which I would happily part with £100 for :D

My PC setup at the moment is like this:

GPU: BFG OC nVidia Ge-Force 260 GTX
CPU: Intel Core2Duo E8500 OC @ 3.4Ghz
MB: Asus P5Q Pro
RAM: 4GB Corsair XMS-2
OS: Vista HP64
PSU: Corsair TX850w
Case: Antec 300

Meaning any major upgrade in CPU is going to mean a new MB which could then mean new RAM if it doesn't support both types (DDR2 - DDR3). The only "easy" upgrade for my setup would be a new DX11 GPU and that should be no problem for my existing PSU to power.

I think getting it for both might be my best solution, get the Collectors Edition at launch for my PC and then the GotY edition for my PS3 some time in the future.
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Post » Tue Apr 06, 2010 12:53 pm

If you already have a PS3 and don't intend to play any other PC games besides Skyrim, I would personally choose to get the PS3 version.

If you don't own a PS3, then maybe investing that money into a few upgrades would be the better way to go.
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Post » Tue Apr 06, 2010 10:11 pm

My opinion is that if you can afford to save for a new PC, then you should. Mods give TES an experience you just can't get on consoles.
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Post » Tue Apr 06, 2010 11:53 pm

If you already have a PS3 I couldn't personally see a point in investing in an upgrade for your PC just for Skyrim. Unless mods are something you absolutely won't miss out on, then you have little choice..
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Post » Tue Apr 06, 2010 9:40 pm

I personally prefer to play on the console first to enjoy the base game. Then when I get the goty edition for pc later I am in awe a second time! Also I spend so much time modding that I rarely get to the actual game itself, a problem which doesn't exist on the consoles.
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Post » Tue Apr 06, 2010 10:48 am

Depends on what you find important. I have been playing on my ps3 since it came out and I find a ps3 more engaging into gameplay and immersion then a pc. To me it is about comfort and the controller to control the players actions. Big screen tv, couple of beers and with some friends on a couch is I want.

I used to run oblivion on my pc but it is so outdated, old and full [censored] that I gave up on it. Bought oblivion for the ps3 after a while to get somewhat a full experience of oblivion. And yes you don′t have mods on consoles but I can′t really say I miss them. Back when I played oblivion on my pc I became somewhat of a mod addict. Downloading and installing new mods everyday and in the end it got me a long list of mods that caused crashes and bugs.

Pc is ofcourse the best if you are one that goes for the graphics. And if the mods are all compatible then it certainly would improve the game if you get the mods that you like.

pc is better from a graphics standpoint and mods. But a console is good enough for me. Graphics that certainly aren′t bad and a controller in my hand feels better then clicking a mouse.

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Post » Tue Apr 06, 2010 11:33 am

I wonder why everyone assumes that Skyrim will be much more demanding than Oblivion. Sure, it looks better and it comes out 5 years after Oblivion. But it is a game developed for the Xbox360/PS3 mainly, the same console generation Oblivion was developed for (with no time to optimize the game since it was released shortly after the Xbox launch). The OP's current rig makes any of the two consoles look like a C64. I would be surprised if he couldn't play the game on almost max settings with a very good framerate. If you want to use lots of graphic mods, ini tweaks that increase the graphic settings above the default max values, super high resolutions or super high AA/AF settings a stronger computer may be needed, but for the vanilla game at max settings with a decent resolution and some AA/AF it should be just fine.

EDIT: Fallout 3 for example, which has better graphics than Oblivion and was released 2.5 years after has better performance on my system than Oblivion. Or look at completely different games like Crysis 2. Runs on consoles and runs with a good framerate at much higher resolutions with better settings on a rig like the OP has.

EDIT2: I don't think graphics will be that much of a problem anyway (as opposed to CPU power). I can play Oblivion with performance killer settings like 24x Edge Detect AA, Quality Adaptive AA enabled and 16x AF on max settings and I still get framerates of 40+ everywhere on my 4890. Even if Skyrim will be a bit more demanding in the graphics department I doubt it will be that demanding. And if it has proper multicore processor support the CPU won't be a problem either, even though CPU power is usually the bottleneck of TES games.
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Post » Tue Apr 06, 2010 7:18 pm

Hey :)

I have played all of the previous TES games on PC and although my system isn't bad it is starting to show its age a little and I'm scared that with my current set-up that I won't be able to get the best out of Skyrim. So I have been thinking would I be better looking to overhaul my gaming rig or should I save myself the time, effort and money and just buy it for the PS3??

Whats everyone else going to be doing? New Rig? Console? Existing Rig?

/Rookie


All depends on your budget and what your computer already has. Hit me up with a PM if you need any help with that.
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Post » Tue Apr 06, 2010 9:01 pm

Because the question asked by the OP (thats me) only owns a PS3 and PC.... buying an xBox 360 to play Skyrim when I already have the other two would just be silly now, wouldn't it? Either read the full topic or don't post tyvm :)


Oh I misunderstood. So you already have a PS3. Well that changes they equation slightly. The Mod community does make a PC game purchase worth it, and the cost of the PC version will be cheaper. So if you don't have to upgrade I'd go with the PC version. If you do have to upgrade well....you may want to upgrade your computer eventually anyway. But If it looks like you gotta drop some serious coin go for the PC version, no matter how good the mod community is, it ain't worth it if you gotta spend more on your computer then what your PS3 costs.


I wonder why everyone assumes that Skyrim will be much more demanding than Oblivion. Sure, it looks better and it comes out 5 years after Oblivion. But it is a game developed for the Xbox360/PS3 mainly, the same console generation Oblivion was developed for (with no time to optimize the game since it was released shortly after the Xbox launch). The OP's current rig makes any of the two consoles look like a C64. I would be surprised if he couldn't play the game on almost max settings with a very good framerate. If you want to use lots of graphic mods, ini tweaks that increase the graphic settings above the default max values, super high resolutions or super high AA/AF settings a stronger computer may be needed, but for the vanilla game at max settings with a decent resolution and some AA/AF it should be just fine.

EDIT: Fallout 3 for example, which has better graphics than Oblivion and was released 2.5 years after has better performance on my system than Oblivion. Or look at completely different games like Crysis 2. Runs on consoles and runs with a good framerate at much higher resolutions with better settings on a rig like the OP has.


It sounds like he won't have a problem. This is all academic though, we don't know what the minimal specs will be for this game yet. The game is still six months away from being released, so the question might be a little premature. I mean there's no real rush to go out and pre-order this thing right now is there?
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Post » Tue Apr 06, 2010 12:02 pm

I just fork out already $2000ish AUD in anticipation for Skyrim. We still have plenty of time before the release so save for the new PC and you get better quaility gaming experience. Console hardware is frankly out of date and crap (sorry if that offends the console kiddies) and you be happier on release day when you see Skyrim in Directx11 instead of the console throttled version. It really depends if you just want to play or want quaility. Also PC gets Mods and console don't :P

Sandy Bridge PC i just build in anticipation for Skyrim.

I72600K (OC to 46x)
8gig DDR3 RAM
HD6970 X2 in Crossfire (i hope Skyrim supports/scales well in crossfire otherwise i be pissed beyond beleif)
ASUS P8P67 PRO Motherboard
2x 2TB SATA3 Hardrives
CoolMaster V6 GT CPU Air Cooler.
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Post » Tue Apr 06, 2010 12:39 pm

Wow, $2000 for a new pc? It would be nice to have that kind of money.
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Post » Tue Apr 06, 2010 6:11 pm


My PC setup at the moment is like this:

GPU: BFG OC nVidia Ge-Force 260 GTX
CPU: Intel Core2Duo E8500 OC @ 3.4Ghz
MB: Asus P5Q Pro
RAM: 4GB Corsair XMS-2
OS: Vista HP64
PSU: Corsair TX850w
Case: Antec 300

Meaning any major upgrade in CPU is going to mean a new MB which could then mean new RAM if it doesn't support both types (DDR2 - DDR3). The only "easy" upgrade for my setup would be a new DX11 GPU and that should be no problem for my existing PSU to power.


This system would run Skyrim fine. As suggested a GPU uprade could improve graphics setting but I would expect medium to high settings if not a bit more considering the benchmarks at Tom's have this card running modern games @ 1900x1200 on ultra settings at close to 60 FPS. The CPU is the second fastest Core2 produced with only the E8600 being faster (stock 3.33GHz@1333FSB) and the OP's motherboard can support a 1333 chip if he so chooses. The cost of replacing the E8500 for a faster FSB though is likely not necessary, and he has it clocked to 3.4GHz. OP's CPU is already running 1333MHz FSB.

I run an E8600 and an HD5870 at 1080p on a 42" screen and have a very good graphical and game play experience in New Vegas with considerably elevated default High settings. I run Oblivion on Ultra with high resolution texture replacers just fine. I don't expect to be disappointed with the performance of Skyrimat all. If I was the OP would opt for the PC version, and possibly sometime upgrade to a better graphics card when it's more affordable.
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Post » Tue Apr 06, 2010 3:37 pm

Sorry for taking so long to get back in touch. My Spec is as follows:

GPU: BFG OC nVidia Ge-Force 260 GTX
CPU: Intel Core2Duo E8500 OC @ 3.4Ghz
MB: Asus P5Q Pro
RAM: 4GB Corsair XMS-2
OS: Vista HP64
PSU: Corsair TX850w
Case: Antec 300

I guess thats the important stuff, the systems a good few years old now though but still plays a lot of new games at Medium-to-High spec. Loads of room for an upgrade in the GPU department, could always up the RAM but wouldn't really need it. If I was looking for a significantly better CPU then its going to mean a new MB and most likely cooling system.

/Rookie

P.S. To avoid any confusion, I already own a PS3 so it would only be Skyrim that I would need to buy not a PS3 and Skyrim :)



That computer will have NO trouble running skyrim easy.

The cpu is more then powerful enough skyrim will likely only need 2.0 ghz dual core.

The gpu is more then powerful enough.

And you have more then enough ram.

You are fine.
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Post » Tue Apr 06, 2010 4:55 pm

Get which ever yo want. Me, I'm going for ps3, then after wards pc. :P
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