I personally would hate TESV to be limited to what it can achieve due to low disk space so if it had too would you be fine with multiple disks like with Morrowind for the PC? Or do you think its fine for a PC game but not a console, or is one just the magic number for game disks?

PS3s use Blu-Ray, so no, we (PS3 players, at least) don't need more than one disk. Oblivion (GOTY) only took up about 5.4 gbs, and single-sided DVDs can go up to about 8 or 9 gbs of space, so PCs and 360s don't need more than one disk, either, really.

I know PS3's won't have to worry, but x-box 360's can only store 9 gigs so if TESV had a large number of voice acting then it could result in less room for graphics. As most people who use mods could tell you it is quite easy to get a couple of gigs of memory from textures. So they might have to lower the texture res to fit it on the disk. Although this is highly unlikely, I am just asking what if they did have to come to this decision because they actually put a lot of time and effort into making it both expansive and highly detailed enough to make it over 9 GB.

Haven't 360 games with more than one disk been released before? I could swear the GOTY edition of Oblivion comes with more than one disk on 360s, but I've only heard people discuss that. I've never seen the multiple disks for myself.

It did in fact come out on multiple disks, other 360 games have done it before as well like Lost Odyssey. Some people nowadays feel like having multiple disks isn't a good thing, but by having two disks it both increases the maximum amount of quality that can be put into the game as well as allow for faster framerate by having more room for a cache file on the current play disk. With room too store the chached textures and models it will allow you to see the "insert ruin type here" of in the distance without slowing down your machine or having to have it look like a "insert ruin color" blur.

Do you believe it would affect sales?

Assuming it comes out on the 360 and not the next systems or whatever...I would be suprised if its not a 2 disc game...Its been awhile since Oblivion and obviously they are going to update the graphics to some extent...there was so much stuff in Oblivion that I cant imagine them fitting in more (obviously a sequel should have more) while updating the graphics without space becoming an issue...2 discs is perfect...they can update the visuals while adding in larger areas and larger amounts of quests to do...

If there comes a point where they reach the storage space available on a single disc (PS3 excluded obviously), it would be a big mistake to say "We need to cut back," where the correct thing to say would be "We need another disc." If TES V needs another disc, then Bethesda needs to put it on another disc. The extra cost associated with making the extra discs in a non-issue as Zenimax has plenty of money to spare, so there is no excuse not to if it's needed.

Aye, but do gamers ever look at a game and say "it's two disks, can't buy it", for some reason? I can't figure out why these data space debates are even brought up, sometimes. Is it because gamers hate multiple disks, for whatever reason?

Bethesda shouldn't even bother keeping track of the total size of TES 5, just make an awsome game and when it's done, have a look at it and say to themselves "Ok, we need to have the game on X number of disks".

Mass Effect 2 has two discs, I don't think it suffered in any way due to it.

I don't think having two discs would be an issue to most people, you would just have to switch them between certain cells.

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ya. the disk change actually gave a sense of acomplishment, "wow, i'm already on disk two" and added suspense. "I"m about to go through thte omega four relay, what's gunna happen? [INSERT DISK 1]"

Can't one disk be installed so that the other can stay in at all times?

Yes that should be possible but if you would have to insert another disk while playing that would plainly ruin the game I mean I might just get it on ps3 because imagine your on an epic chain of quest you start walking and out of no where it says please change disc ? Wtf is that

My thoughts exactly...

A sandbox game with disk changes just seems to be the worst possible combination, to me. :shrug:

They did it successfully in FF VIII.

I like multiple disks, think of all the final fantasy games for PS. A bunch of them had four disks. It was a sense of accomplishment to get to the second third or four disk. As for Morrowind for PC, it just meant it was a badass game, though two of the disks were expansions when expansion packs existed :laugh:

Personally I wouldn't think it would be much of an issue.

im not really sure if they did i mean disc 1-2 was like a tutorial or something ( thats what my bro said) and then half the game you walked in a strait line. I really cant see it being done in a rpg such as TeS. it wouldn't be a good idea to separate a province in 2 by disc thats just my opinion

The first two discs were the introduction, they cemented the story and the background while still playing as a normal game. They link nicely from one to the other however each disc is a complete game in it's self. The first two aren't tutorials.

Multi discs were only necessary when using CDs. There's no need for multiple DVDs. A lot of bloat in game sizes these days is from lazy developing, so there's no excuse for that bloat causing a need for two DVDs.

Does anyone think that perhaps 2 disks sort of break the pacing? it sort of did for me with ME2.

I wouldn't want the game to be limited just because one platform couldn't handle all the content on one disk, so if some players have to use two disks then so be it.

I don't want them to cut any content for the sake of just having one disc, and I would not be bothered if the other disc[s] could be installed to my 360's hard drive like with the Goty of Oblivion.
What I do not want is a Mass Effect 2 style "Go to planet A. Insert disc 2! Well, need to go back to planet C. Insert disc 1!" That totally ruined exploring the terminus system for me.
I played through Mass Effect 1 multiple times but only once for Mass Effect 2 simply because I did not want to have to deal with changing discs.

Only if you had to switch between disks during gameplay. Now, I'm not sure if console versions would work like this, but when CDs were the standard for PC gaming, it wasn't uncommon for games to be released on more than one disc, and usually, you only needed to switch between disks when installing them, after that, you only needed to insert disk one to play the game, so I don't think it would be As long as you don't need to switch disks during gameplay, if it was something like games on older consoles that were too big to fit on one disk where you would need to swap disks after reaching a certain point in the game or when going to certain locations, I could see that being annoying.

Overall, I'd say that it depends on how big the game is. I wouldn't want them to cut some content from the game simply to keep the number of disks it needs down, but if the game can fit on only one disk, there's no need to needlessly bloat it so it can fit on two, obviously. So basically, Bethesda should use as many disks as they need to make the game they want to make. I mean, back in the day of CDs, I'm pretty sure I'd played games which used five disks before, but since I only needed to use them all during installation, it didn't bother me, the only problem was that the more disks you had, the more disks you could lose, and if you were missing even one disk, you wouldn't be able to install the game. I could live with going back to those games except with DVDs if it meant better games. Although it might cause a problem with the game taking up too much space on the harddrive, I don't mind using more than one disk when installing the game, but I'd rather not have to delete all my other games just to make space for it, if I have a choice.



If the game is digital distribution only, then I'm not buying it, I don't care if it's the Elder Scrolls, I'm not going to get a game through digital distribution.