Would it be nice? -sure

Will it happen? -No way. This is because in order to bring a game like Morrowind up to today's standards (voice acting, graphics, animations etc) would take about years of work....there is simply too much content, and the amount of dialogue is simply jaw dropping and could never be all recorded and fit on discs.

Well it COULD happen. yes the amount of content would be a lot, but they could pull a Forza, and include an extra content install disk. As far as time is concerned, I don't think it would be a huge issue. It was a few years between Oblivion and Skyrim because of Fallout 3 and Fallout NV, and i dont see them making another Fallout anytime soon. So if that's the case, it is possible they have time. But that's just my opinion.

You have played Morrowind? There is a reason they don't include that much dialogue in games anymore....it would be nearly 2 DVDs just for the vioce files.


There is a very obvious reason why it won't happen....Morrowind still sells, modders have made the graphic pretty good looking and the cost to re-do Morrowind would not cover the sales....face it, the game is not casual friendly and would leave many non-hardcoe ES fans scratching their heads on what they were to do.

I would like to see a remake of MW, but I want the core gameplay to stay the same.

No i haven't played it, just seen videos of it. I refuse to play it because the graphics are crap and i really can't play it on my computer without lagging a lot. Thus the reason for the topic i made. To be honest, i really don't understand the rest of what you said. If you could explain what you mean by "not casual friendly" that would help. If you read some of the other posts i replied to, you'd see that the mods are irrelevant. This is focused towards a new 360 version of the game (and/or PS3). I could care less about the computer version because you're right, modders have gotten it to look quite decent.

But the point remains, Bethesda won't remake Morrowind because mdoders (i know PC only but the point applies) have already pretty much done that....and anything Bethesda does would either make 8 years of modding irrelevant, or not meet what the modder have achieved.

But the cost to value also applies, Bethesda couldn't afford the costs and time to do it, easiler to just continue the series.....remember Zenimax isn't as massive as EA, Blizzard, etc....they need to make games that sell.



When I say "casual" I mean the game is very open ended, your first task is to find a guy in Balmora. You have no pointer, intructions or anything on how ot get to Balmora, once you get there you have to find a cornerclub where you can ask abou the guy you are looking for.

Now in Mordern games there are guides to help you, how to use the fast travel, where the city you are going is etc. Now a Morrowind player has none of those, if you think, you can go to the Syder Neen tavern, where you can get directions to Balmora, both by foot and through fast travel. Oncei n balmora, you can ask people on the street where the cornerclub is.

This is Morrowind, you don't follow an arrow, you follow dialogue directions and you acutally have to think about what you are asked to do. QUite often NPCs sending on a quest only have a vague idea on where you are mean to go, leading to a long fustrating hours of trying to find the place you are meant to go.....but in these situations, thinking outside the box, you can find out more info by talking to related people on the subject in the game.


If you cannot get over graphics quality, then you'll never like Morrowind....and many other amazing games from that period (diablo 2, Neverwinter Knights, etc). You'll be doomed to play the modern crap that constantly streams out......as any Morrowind player would tell you "Skyrim is a deep game? Wow that is really dissappointing on the state of current games".

Alright I got you. I actually would have preferred Oblivion and Skyrim to be the way you describe Morrowind, but that's beside the point. What if they kept the game the way it is.. with text instead of chat, like it is, and all they did was augment the graphics? Think that would be a possibility?

The reason i'm so stubborn about a graphical remake/ whatever you want to call it, is because, despite the great game or story or features it has, I'm not interested in playing a low-detail / chunky / old game (sorry i can't come up with the right words at the moment, feel free to help me out here!) on my 1080p 61" flat-screen...

I don't really know any other way to put it, sorry. Try to understand what i'm saying, and keep the Modding/Computer part of it out of the conversation for right now. That can be addressed later.

They could, I dont see why not, but the matter is they won't. If Mircosoft wasn't so big you wouldn't be getting a Halo remake either. ZeniMax and bethesda simply are too small to afford risking reamking a game, when making a new one will be a granteed sell.

Not to mention there is a good chance a graphical upgrade would turn into a remake (and oyu really would have to remake it) and then old fans would hate it for not being exsactly the same.


In today's market Morrowind would be considered a hardcoe niche game, and companies trying to make it big like ZeniMax can't make those.

True. okay i see your point. Maybe eventually they could remake this game. I agree with you that new ones would be better. That brings up another question aside from this whole topic...What game in TES series do you think they will make next? or that you would like to see?


And thanks for the opinions and backing it up!

This is the reason there is no LGNPC mod for Oblivion, I am dissapointed that the world is obsessed with their games talking to them these days.

It's to make them more accessable....and voice files really are. A lot of people would struggle to understand long paragraphs esspecially if they frequently contain made up words.

Its an apect that isn't going to ever change now, we just have ot live with it.

agreed ^^

Its fine. All they would have to do graphics and make the movements more fluid. But keep everything else. And the hitchance thingy. So pretty much just the overhaul with a couple other goodys

It makes it more accessible for people that want it to be accessible. The problem with voice acting is that there is A LOT less detail in conversations. This lead to the adding of the Compass and fast travel. I appreciate what voice acting can add. like more personality and stuff. But TES was just that little more great with text dialogue. And besides the old/main TES community prefers text dialogue.

Bethesda are a business, not a charity. They would want to make it accessible for business reasons.

If Bethesda ever were possessed enough to do a remake of Morrowind, they would need it to appeal more to modern sensibilities in order to sell it. This means voice acting for one. It just wouldn't be aimed at the "old-timers" (most of whom would stick with the original game in any case).

And thats the sad thing about todays society.

I think you're the only one who has actually understood what i want and for that, I thank you.

The graphics and animations are a significant part of the expense, if not MOST of it. That's a LOT of stuff to to remake, considering how much more of just about everything there was in Morrowind than in Skyrim.

Besides, the "hit-chance thingie" is consistent with the overall design and other mechanics. Without that, it's not a game, it's an "activity". In fact, it's the second-biggest issue I have with OB (which I played, liked at first, but got really bored with quickly), and by extension Skyrim (which I haven't played, and can't due to the Steam "thingie").

So would you like to see this get a remake? Based on this response I can't tell if you're for it or against it.

I've never played Morrowind, but i think this applies to any game... A game is an activity.. and an activity can be playing a game, get what i'm saying? The way you use the word "activity" ... is a bit over-exaggerated. I get what you're saying but a few changes in mechanics can't change a game THAT much.

How did you get bored with Oblivion? Yes the story line is quick... i know, i got all 60 achievements within 15 days.. that includes the Shivering Isles DLC. But there is soo much you can do in that game after you complete it. I just don't understand . I still play OB even though i have Skyrim.. to me it's just a better game.

If you haven't played Morrowind or Daggerfall, or any of the "old school" RPGs with failure rates based on the character's stats, then you don't know what I'm talking about, and I can understand your response. To me, taking "risk" out of the game makes "reward" meaningless; it's an overall industry (and culture) trend that I find disturbing. When you start out weaker than everythng around you and gradually become the most powerful thing in the game, I find it far more satisfying than starting out "just as powerful" as everything around you, and staying that way.

Oblivion, after the brief period of excitement at the better graphics and animations, physics, and animated grass, bored me to the point where the longer I played it the more I hated it. Even with a host of mods, it couldn't hold my interest (OOO and MMM helped "mask" the problems, but didn't fix them), and I struggled with the urge to delete the game until I completed the tedious MQ, and then took it off my drive. Even the heaps of praise from other Morrowind fans for the SI expansion couldn't overcome my reluctance to put the disc in the drive; I stopped in mid-motion about 3 or 4 times while trying to do so, and went back to playing other games, including MW.

I wouldn't want a remake. Mods have improved the graphics (not the animations, sadly) to the point where a remake would be a trivial improvement in that respect, and if it used the newer "streamlined" mechanics and character development system, then I'd consider it an abomination. Besides, it's a case of "been there, done that" for almost a decade, and I'd rather see a different province (Black Marsh, Valenwood, or Summerset Isles) with Morrowind's "character-based" gameplay (instead of Oblivion's "player-based" style), than go back to the same too-familiar one that I've been exploring for years.

I can understand what you mean regarding to graphics posing a barrier to get you to play the game. However that is superficial, as if you hadn't been spoiled by modern games you would have thought the graphics amazing. Many people tend to make a corrolation between quality and graphics, assuming that a game is better when it looks prettier. As long as you can get over the first hurdle and start playing, any upcoming gripes will be small in comparison.

The vast majority of times a good game tends to last through the ages despite bad graphics, and should the problem persist an installation of the sounds and graphics overhaul would easily remedy the problem.

As for the remake, I see little reason for it. It'd be nice to see if they don't ruin it, however I'd rather not take the risk. As they say, if it ain't broke...

The next game ... Akavir, if only to see what the Nerevarine's getting up to.

Seems unnecessary because of all the mods which already improve the game to look much better than it did. Having said that, I would probably buy a remastered Morrowind if they released it on the PS3.

Yeah you're exactly right. I have been spoiled by modern games graphics. And i can understand why everybody says "it's not about the graphics, it's the quality of the game" because i do go back and play games from the past that have HORRIFIC graphics compared to games from today, but I enjoy them because it's from my past. BUT, i'm not about to go out and buy myself a game that I've never played before that has really terrible graphics. I would be too distracted by the poor quality to be able to focus on how amazing the game itself is.

Get the Morrowind Overhaul: Sound and Graphics. Really easy to use installer, and you're good to go from that point. http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1319942-relz-morrowind-overhaul-sounds-graphics-20/
IIRC KingPIX was also releasing an overhaul about the combat, critters and quests. I don't know what the progress is on that one, but I'd love to try that one out.

I'd suggest Morrowind Overhaul 2011 if outdated graphics bother you.It also includes MCP and other stuff that improves the game and fixes bugs.Installation is very simple.