Should I do this...

Post » Mon Jun 14, 2010 8:21 pm

I was thinking about doing another FanFic when I've finished my current one (current, Curse of the Ayleids set E6-250 near the death of Emperor Uriel Septim) that is set in the far future (ie. circa E10-250) so the Tamriellic peoples have advanced both socially and technologically, let me explain...
Oblivion is set quite near the Medieval era, say, the 1700's I want to push it to the modern day and a little bit further. The year 2250 in our years, new ways to cure disease and forms of armour, actual vehicles and most importantly, weapons.
Cyrodiil will be in a war with Morrowind over supplies, war has been declared, I haven't figured out all the kicks yet, eg. Main characters and stuff but I'd just like some opinions from the Bethesda Community, so constructive critisism only please. :hehe:
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Post » Mon Jun 14, 2010 5:34 pm

Hm... I like the idea of putting various races like elves, orks, bretons and imperials with weapons of our days or even more modern ones. It would be almost the same as Warhammer 40k but less brutal and with more political and historical depth, i guess, IF you manage to explain such a huge advancement in technology. The main problem is what I just mentioned. How will you manage to put such a story togehter in context? Does it sound realistic? Not only that, there are also lots of people who find the idea of adding modern technology to tamriel a bit too excessive.

In conclusion: IF you manage to somehow explain what happend between the oblivion crisis and now (the future) with detail and realism, perhaps it would be a good FanFic IMHO.

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Post » Tue Jun 15, 2010 4:18 am

First things first: writing is one of the most fulfilling hobbies in the world (though I may be biased), and you should do it in any way you enjoy. Our opinions really don't matter much, as long as you're having fun creating your world. Consider criticism when you feel it's useful, but trust your own instincts above all. It's your baby: you're the one who gets to nurture it.

Got that? Good. Keep it in mind for the rest of this post. :dance:

One thing that has always bugged me about certain "Tamriel in the future" fics and RPs are when the writer assumes the society of Tamriel would progress the same way that ours did (You know... gunpowder, cars, atom bombs, computers... anything post-Industrial Revolution). It wouldn't, because of one very important factor: magic. I could go into a big long rant about how gunpowder weapons would either be entirely different (or not exist at all) in a world where a Shock or Fire spell could do the job just as well without the wasted resources. And medicinal study would be drastically different when a proper Restoration Spell--to say nothing about Alchemy--can heal everything from sword wounds, to full-body burns, to deadly diseases.

But I won't go into that rant. :P

I just ask you to please, please consider the effect of magic in the progression of your society. Either incorporate it realistically in your world, or find a way to neutralize it so that society had to at one point learn to function without it. It's a matter of believability on my part.

But, like I said, this will ultimately be your creation; my opinion is only that. :twirl:
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Post » Tue Jun 15, 2010 2:59 am

First things first: writing is one of the most fulfilling hobbies in the world (though I may be biased), and you should do it in any way you enjoy. Our opinions really don't matter much, as long as you're having fun creating your world. Consider criticism when you feel it's useful, but trust your own instincts above all. It's your baby: you're the one who gets to nurture it.

Got that? Good. Keep it in mind for the rest of this post. dance.gif

One thing that has always bugged me about certain "Tamriel in the future" fics and RPs are when the writer assumes the society of Tamriel would progress the same way that ours did (You know... gunpowder, cars, atom bombs, computers... anything post-Industrial Revolution). It wouldn't, because of one very important factor: magic. I could go into a big long rant about how gunpowder weapons would either be entirely different (or not exist at all) in a world where a Shock or Fire spell could do the job just as well without the wasted resources. And medicinal study would be drastically different when a proper Restoration Spell--to say nothing about Alchemy--can heal everything from sword wounds, to full-body burns, to deadly diseases.

But I won't go into that rant. tongue.gif

I just ask you to please, please consider the effect of magic in the progression of your society. Either incorporate it realistically in your world, or find a way to neutralize it so that society had to at one point learn to function without it. It's a matter of believability on my part.

But, like I said, this will ultimately be your creation; my opinion is only that. twirl.gif



I second what Bsparrod mentioned.

Its difficult to find the words! Thankfully, there are people here that express exactly what i wanted to say. :)
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Post » Tue Jun 15, 2010 5:48 am

Right. I looked at the title, then I skimmed the rest, barely paying attention. Just by looking at the title I have my opinion on the matter: write it! Writing on here is about you wanting to do so, and how much you enjoy it. If you have a perfectly valid idea that isn't against the rules then there is no one stopping you, so write, write and write!
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Post » Tue Jun 15, 2010 3:55 am

i suggest doing it along the lines of everything being advanced as in more protective armor materials and weapons but dont do guns and such, it kinda ruins the main idea TES are focused around like the old ages, it would be cool if you advanced them sorda like in the game too human, like they still use melee weapons, armor, etc. but they are extremly advanced. it would also be cool if some were in the story line, an heir rose to power who despised magick and made it illegal so theres a small underground community of people who still use magick and act sorda like a resitance, but its just an idea.
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Post » Mon Jun 14, 2010 8:47 pm

i suggest doing it along the lines of everything being advanced as in more protective armor materials and weapons but dont do guns and such, it kinda ruins the main idea TES are focused around like the old ages,


But if there's advancement it won't be the "old ages" anymore. And you shouldn't shun guns. It's part of technology. In fact, you should embrace it. There aren't enough GOOD fantasy games that have guns.
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Post » Mon Jun 14, 2010 4:13 pm

Well, as BSparrow and Redsrock have mentioned, you have to do this tastefully. Technological advancement is a must, but it has to include magic, differing races (high elves live longer, this gives them an advantage), ayleids and dwemer, etc. Sit back and plan for a very long time, draw up the entire world. Have an idea what is happening everywhere to everyone and why, but be sure not to tell us all at once. Say it context; the thing I hate most with future Tes is people say things like "The Empire is fallen, High Rock is on the move, and the Dunmer have invaded Akavir"

I suggest doing it from first person, just to be different and exciting. First person can provide the kind of mystery that would make this kind of whole new world thing exciting. Normal fan fics can use third person because mystery is usually very low outside of characters. Just a suggestion though.

Also, don't be afraid to go even further in the future. I think you said it would be equivelant to 2250, so make sure you have really advanced tech WITH LOTS OF MAGICAL INFLUENCE. One thing you can try is big corporations in the form of the guilds. Everyone would turn into Hlaalu :P Think about today, only add magic about three thousand years ago. It sounds hard, but you'll stumble on an idea and just go with it one day. Do NOT force your planning or inspiration.

Sounds promising, I look forward to it. Thanks, and keep it up :goodjob:
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Post » Tue Jun 15, 2010 6:24 am

I would use techonology in the same vein as Magic: the Gathering. A lot of their cards draw on modern things, such as guns and vehicles, but they do so with a heavy magic influence. I don't wanna read "Then Tiberius blasted the dunmer in the head with his ak-47." It would be cool if you had something like "Then Tiberius used his magelock pistol to shoot an enchanted bullet into the dunmer's head."
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Post » Mon Jun 14, 2010 9:05 pm

Yes, that would be awesome! Find a nice mix between magic and technology. Think about how magic could enhance technology and viceversa. How about adding magic grenades? Or rocketlaunchers that guide themselves with the spell detect? How about making magical flamethrowers? A daedric energy hammer would also sound like a sweet idea, IMHO. But not only weapons, how would the commoner live in such a world? Perhaps like darkom said:
One thing you can try is big corporations in the form of the guilds. Everyone would turn into Hlaalu
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Do you know the RPg shadowrun? That has a good mix between magic and sifi, as well, imo. The backroundstory of shadowrun is basically earth in 2070, when magic returned and changed everybodies life significantly.

I am beginning to like your idea, and i am looking forward to the work.

As Bsparrow said:

writing is one of the most fulfilling hobbies in the world (though I may be biased), and you should do it in any way you enjoy.

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Post » Mon Jun 14, 2010 9:06 pm

A daedric energy hammer would also sound like a sweet idea

Personally, I don't think that would make much sense. Daedric weapons have a very specific, incredibly difficult process of creation by themselves without adding tech enhancments. For techno-weapons, you'd probably see a lot more steel-based items that have electricity running through them because of a special device embedded in the blade or the pommel whatever. It's just that steel is easy to manufacture, and could more easily accept those modifications better than higher grade weapony.

I MUST suggest that you look at Shadowrun and Iron Kingdoms (My personal fave, and something I use as inspiration for my own fictions).

And I want to make a note on gunpowder. Powder is still very much in use today, we just ignite it differently. However, with TES having magick, powder could be completly taken out of the mix, because with magick, I'm sure a skilled enough writer could think of a way for magick to propel a bullet.

Remember, think TES, not real-world.
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Post » Mon Jun 14, 2010 9:37 pm

Oh, just a quick hint, don't forget the lore. When you are making your story, base it off the current lore mysteries being solved by your story (explaining the mysteries of Akavir, Yokuda, the Oblivion Crisis, etc.) and then keep the same style going. It is a subtle thing, but if you can give your history of Tamriel the same feel as I get when I read lore pages and books, then that itself is a great feat.
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Post » Mon Jun 14, 2010 10:06 pm

Since Akavir is based off of ancient Chinese culture, I would say that around this time period that they might have discovered a way to make matchlock weapons. Sure they'll be slow to load but they'll be pretty powerful.
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Post » Tue Jun 15, 2010 6:21 am

Around that time period? He said by 2250 in our years, so they would most likely have lasers by then :P I think...
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