No shrine to Sithis

Post » Sun May 18, 2014 5:08 pm

The Night Mother in Morrowind is Morag Tong, the organization from which the Dark Brotherhood split. Night Mother is her title. The Dark Brotherhood's Night Mother has taken on mythic qualities, regardless of the truth of her nature.

There's a flaw in your theory:

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Festus Krex was quite vocal about his desire to return to the old ways, and he died. If you ask Babette how she feels about Cicero/The Night Mother, she says that Astrid is her matron--She no longer follows the commands of the Night Mother

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Cesar Gomez
 
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Post » Sun May 18, 2014 10:45 pm

Really? It's been awhile since I played that questline. But I swear Festus sounded tired about the whole Sithis thing. When you would end a conversation with him, he usually would say "Yeah, yeah, Hail Sithis." I also thought Babette was happy that the Night Mother was back in the sanctuary?

Either way the DB are just pawns to Mephala, there just something to pass the time with, imo.

Yes I know that the DB resulted from a split from the Morag Tong.

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Post » Sun May 18, 2014 2:45 pm

Shrines are for fools whose gods are either missing or unimportant enough to need one to gain attention. Sithis is the darkness that seeps into your very being. The shadows in your room that keeps you up at night. He's the chill in your spine as an assassin lurks behind you, the thing that raises your neckhairs as the predator stalks the prey. Sithis is the nightmare you wish you could wake from but realize you can't because it is real. The voice that tells you to hurt while your conscience tries to say no, only to hide the fact that that voice is actually yours. Sithis doesn't need a shrine because you see him hear him feel him every day. But every time you see a corpse with it's throat slit open, and the crimson rushing through to escape it's fleshy prison, and the crows fall upon it for its eyes and meat to fill their little bellies, as they squawk with glutenous joy...every time you see something like that, you are looking at the shrine of lord Sithis.....

-Lucien Lachance.

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Jesus Sanchez
 
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Post » Sun May 18, 2014 8:30 pm

That's beautiful. When did Lucien say this?

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Post » Sun May 18, 2014 4:45 pm

Just now :P

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Claudia Cook
 
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Post » Sun May 18, 2014 9:52 pm

Which is whenever someone reads it :twirl: Indeed words poetic in truth ever impactful into the timeless

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Post » Sun May 18, 2014 11:55 pm

Ahhh, that was one of the greatest, if not the greatest, quotes from an npc about Sithis.

The way they describe him reminds me of sort of an anti-christianity. Sithis is everything that is nothing and nothing that is everything.

He is certainly a deity whose form is that created this world, Aedra and Daedra alike are all parts of him. So whether you know it not, you have probably worshipped Sithis in some way or another.

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Daniel Brown
 
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Post » Sun May 18, 2014 12:31 pm

That actually isn't a quote, I just made it up. :wink: Sorry guys. He should have said that though, lol.

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Post » Sun May 18, 2014 9:19 pm

I always assumed that there to types of Night mother the mythical quasi demi godess/ rotting corpse/ probobly Mephala, and living mortal women that use name of Night mother as title and who serve as representatives of black hand in provinces.

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Post » Sun May 18, 2014 4:03 pm

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:rofl: That's too funny.

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Post » Sun May 18, 2014 12:18 pm


Well that makes sense of why it wasn't memorable and seemed so fresh.
You jerk :P
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Chloe Lou
 
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Post » Sun May 18, 2014 5:01 pm

Sithis is the wind that blew the still bolder and got it rolling down the mountain, that is to say, the force that sunders the stillness of Anuiel. Sithis is The Warp, a state of constant and chaotic change for the sake of change without direction to oppose Anuiel's utter and complete stillness

All this talk about Sithis being some black god of dark void death is nothing more than a corruption and oversimplification of what Sithis truly is, brought on by the false and wrongheadedness of the 3rd era Dark Brotherhood, particularly the Cyrodiilic Chapter. If you want some dark god to sacrifice to, Mephala, Boethiah, and Lorkhan are over there, and if you want death, Arkay is sitting in the other corner, along with Lorkhan.

To boil it down, Sithis is chaos.

Also, Lucien is wrong, and is mistakenly worshiped a version of Lorkhan and certainly not Sithis, no matter how much he invokes the name of chaos.

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Post » Sun May 18, 2014 3:03 pm


Actually it's in the game. Anu and Padomay/Sithis are just concepts/forces.
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Post » Sun May 18, 2014 5:41 pm

I'll direct you to http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1466314-no-shrine-to-sithis/page-2#entry22857391.

Can you link me to where is states that Sithis is just a 'concept"? You don't Hail a concept and write 5 Tenants about gravity.

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Post » Sun May 18, 2014 11:03 pm

"Here in his shrine, that they have not added. Here do we toil, that we might remember once in a conversation. By night we reclaim, what by day was stolen from children. Far from ourselves, he grows ever near to us even though he is a void. Our eyes once were blinded, now through him do we see a void. Our hands once were idle, now through them does he speak in ambience. And when the world shall listen, and when the world shall see, and when the world remembers that one conversation, that world will cease to be a void." -Sithis' Chant

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Post » Sun May 18, 2014 8:39 pm

Lay off the Skooma. :D
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Post » Sun May 18, 2014 2:14 pm


Hellmouth already did.
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Nicole Coucopoulos
 
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Post » Sun May 18, 2014 12:17 pm

What skooma?

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Post » Sun May 18, 2014 3:46 pm

What was the exactly?

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Post » Sun May 18, 2014 2:33 pm


It's one post above mine..
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Post » Sun May 18, 2014 8:04 pm

You mean the one that quotes a passage from the Monomyth where Sithis is seen as a being ? That doesn't exactly pass him off as a gust of wind, now does it?

And the aforementioned text just denotes Sithis as an entity. Just the same as any religion ( do NOT take this to modern Earth religion discussion ) sees a God figure as the creator and worship them.

I have yet to see anything, other than fan created suggestion, that specifically looks upon Sithis as a mere "concept."

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Post » Sun May 18, 2014 11:10 pm


http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Padomay#cite_note-TM-3 here you go.

Sithis is not an Aedra.. he is not a Daedra.. he is not Magne-Ge, he is not Et'Ada.. so? He's the primordial force of change.
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Maria Leon
 
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Post » Sun May 18, 2014 6:44 pm

Sithis is Sithis.

Idk wth you're talking about...

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JR Cash
 
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Post » Sun May 18, 2014 10:35 pm


Read the rest of the thread then. The Night Mother is Mephala and Sithis is the nothing that begat Lorkhan. It is known.
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Post » Sun May 18, 2014 9:10 am

Again... That's nothing "in-game". I mean directly. That is just a page that is constructed by the fan base.

In fact... If one wants actual "in-game" cannon based evidence for the whole thing, they need to look no further than the DB questline and the Vile Lair of the Oblivion release. No fancy-smancy jibber jabber and incense burning all night secessions while contemplating deep thought on a bed of pillows and flower petals.

It's stated and played crystal clear.

Fixed that for ya.

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