So there are shrines to the Nine, a shrine to Nocturnal, but where is the shrine to Sithis?

In Oblivion this shrine had more of an impact because there was the fame/infamy system, but you'd think there would be one in Skyrim for lore purposes or realism. just wondering why there isn't one

EDIT: I mean one to pray at and recieve some sort of boost, like praying to the nine, or the nocturnal shrine in the Thieves guild

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I'm not really that surprised that Sithis doesn't make the appearance. As the Dark Brother took a real kick in the dirty bags, during the development of this release.

I haven't done the DB recently, but isn't there something in the sanctuary? Sithis isn't exactly a warm, welcoming type of deity. I mean, thieves may be tolerated, but assassins are normally not that accepted. Worshiping a void is a little esoteric, imo.

There's a stained glass window with what's supposed to be a tangible depiction of him.

I don't see Sithis as the worship-y type though. Just kill random innocents people and he/it is cool with you.

I don't believe that Sithis is the type to warrant a shrine.

make one if you want to worship Sithis.
put a couple of skulls with stuff in a hearthfire house on the shrine base and there you go. A shrine to Sithis.

No no no, you got it all wrong.

If we're going to worship a Deity of the void, then we gotta have his shrine represent that!

--Pedistal with literally nothing on top of it--

Perfect!

There was a shrine to Sithis in Oblivion? Where?

it was in the player house in the "Vile Lair" DLC

It was another one below the statue, with the Night Mother, in Anvil. It was where she sacrificed her 5 children.

What about a shrine to Anuiel, Sithis's counter part? Or how about cutting past the middle man and head straight to Padomay, as Sithis is only the soul of Padomay (and Lorkhan/Shezarr/Shor the soul of Sithis)

Also, worshiping Sithis isn't going to do much. Unlike the princes, Sithis isn't a tangible..thing, so to say. Sithis is the ever changing chaos to Anuiel's complete stasis. It would be like worshiping a fundamental law of nature, and expecting something to come out of it, or hoping that law senpai will notice you today.

In the OB version, she only birthed her 5 childen and they became the Black Hand. In Skyrim, it was said she birthed then killed her 5 babies. In Morrowind/Daggerfall, it was a member of the Thieves Guild who murdered the Potentate, and a rank in the Dark Brotherhood. Point being, this assertion is likely false, as there is another story after another in every game that has had the Dark Brotherhood play a joinable role, and probably lends more credence to the idea that the Night Mother (that we know of) is actually Mephala trolling the entire guild. The original one could be anything at this point.

Also, it was Bravil where her statue was, not Anvil.

....statue in Anvil....? the one by the pond north of Beneris manor....?
need to look this up....

I think he means Bravil.

This is and has been the soul of argument, that was drummed up and passed along as fact (no insult intended, I assure you) among the Lore community. I don't buy it. He fathered 5 children. I see it more as Philosophy and Theology majors wanting to express why they got an A on last week's mid term.

Oh... indeed.

It has been a while. Sorry about that.

Joke is on you! I never took Philosophy and Theology, and I hate those topics

And again, I highly doubt the claim that he fathered anything. The story of The Night Mother is spoken so often, but every single version is altered in a major respect every time, and now it has gotten to the point where it's a game of telephone gone from "Susan like to play hoolahoop" to "Derrik buries the heads of cats behind Old Man Jenkin's shed."

Point taken. That was actually rather funny.

I get what you're saying. I can respect the depth, suggestion and creativity of the young minds that envelope themselves into such an amazing lore. My hat goes off. It is this level of discussion that makes it a truly incredible gaming experience.

Most players merely go through the motions of hit and kill. Completely unaware and oblivious to the intricacies of it all.

In the end... all of my characters observe Sithis as the one true God and creator. And views the lesser deities as totaling eight. So they so choose.

In that case, that's perfectly fine. It's your game after all.

lord drkdeth isn't exactly venerated in Skyrim, so I don't get why people are confused by the lack of shrines to lord stabmcblooddeath.

Because the Brotherhood in Skyrim are a bunch of weak pathetic imbeciles! Now, if you're talking about shrines to Sithis out in public, I doubt it.

He doesn't come out and get you like he does in Oblivion if you get kicked out of the DB.

I sometimes wonder if its even the same Dark Brotherhood as in Oblivion, or if it is simply a spiritual successor claiming to be the original (Like how copy-cat criminals commit the same crimes as a known criminal, claiming to be the original).

I mean, the complete absence of the Black Hand? The fact Skyrims DB's Night Mother is a mummified Corpse, while Oblivions was a Skeleton (Then Again, Morrowinds Night Mother was a living person...)? the fact Shadowmere appears to have had a six-change?

In fact, the only connection we see what so-ever between the Dark Brotherhood in Oblivion and the one of Skyrim is Lucien Lachance...

The OB Dark Brotherhood is the only aberration. Play Morrowind and Daggerfall, and you'd realize that Pre-Cicero Dark Brotherhood is more like what we saw in Morrowind and Daggerfall.

[censored] I hate Oblivion! It just took a giant dump on EVERYTHING!

Looking at it that way, Sithis is probably nothing more than the voice talking through the door

I have played Morrowind and Daggerfall (thats why I stated that Morrowinds Night Mother appeared to be a living person (Severa Magia)), all I am saying is, the DB of Skyrim is so inconsistent with the one of Oblivion, I wouldn't be surprised if in the end they are actually completely separate organizations that simply hold similar beliefs and ideals