So first i got the regular one for joining he DB, then found the"unmasked" one inside the sanctuary. Mind you the one i just recieved from astrid was unmasked too, but does not say so. Then i go and grab the ancient shrouded cowl, which even has a mask in the picture, with no mask. I'm angry as i was looking forward to ether one with the mask, supposedly this one here.. Any help?

The mask part only appears on female characters. I have no idea why.
But there's probably a mod that lets males use it too.

For a masked cowl nothing beats the Nightingale IMO.

On 360. And i know but i want the archer boost, that nightingale mask does not offer. This is such a bummer...

Would have been pretty nice if the face mask was available to males too.

truly.. I don't see why they did that..

Really disappointed when it didn't appear for males. I hate all apparel for the Dark Brotherhood in general in Skyrim. One outfit makes you look like a gimp, the other a bunch of rags.

It's because of the beards. They will show through the mask and cause horrible clipping.

There might be a way to make the beards go away and I'm looking into it for possible USKP inclusion, but that's a long shot, and might require heavy editing of all beards and mask so...

well that should be downfall for players with beards, i personally think if they allowed clipping with white eyes they would dismiss this too. Bummer, flat out bummer... They crop hair with helmets so why nit crop beards

It's not that easy. I would have to explain to you how the meshes work in Skyrim (including partitioning) and that technical talk might be boring.

To make it work like hairs work, most (if not all) of the beards would have to be edited. And we don't even know if it will work anyway. You can't make beards go the way they are set-up now, else you would make the whole head disappear.

why couldn't they do what they did with the nightingale hood? Same concept.. (not trying to question intelligence here, just trying to understand lol)

No it's not same concept. Nightingale hood is a full-head mesh. It covers the whole head, leaving no exposed parts. The way the system works, the character's head (and hair, beard etc) is removed when wearing full-face helmets.

Shrouded cowl actually leaves some parts of the head exposed.

Ahhh, i see. Well thanks!

You could always just shave it off

Blasphemy!

You could always just rock the Nightingale mask/ cowl and then enchant a ring to give you the archery buff you want. IMO any and all DB gear is awful looking. The first time I saw the standard outfit i was like " really? Are you [censored] kiding me", it totally makes you look like a dominatrix or some type of six slave. Not cool at all. And the red they went with was just plain old unapealing. Ugly ugly ugly.