shuddering : IV

» Sun Jan 30, 2011 2:33 pm

i have rebuilt my mod set up recenty and i am having some shuddering issues.... here is my mod list

00 Oblivion.esm
01 All Natural Base.esm [Version 0.9.9.5]
02 Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esm [Version 1.34]
03 UnnecessaryViolence.esm
04 Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp [Version 3.2.5]
05 UOP Vampire Aging & Face Fix.esp [Version 1.0.0]
06 Oblivion Citadel Door Fix.esp
07 DLCShiveringIsles.esp
08 Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp [Version 1.4.0]
09 All Natural - Real Lights.esp [Version 0.9.9.5]
0A All Natural.esp [Version 0.9.9.5]
0B All Natural - SI.esp [Version 0.9.9.5]
0C Underwater.esp
0D IWR-Lights.esp
0E IWR-Windows.esp
0F IWR-Shutters.esp
10 Living Economy.esp
11 Expanded Hotkeys and Spell Delete v1.0.esp
12 Expanded Hotkeys Brief Equip Message.esp
13 MaleBodyReplacerV4.esp
14 Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esp [Version 1.34]
15 OOO-Map_Markers_Stock.esp [Version 1.33]
16 OOO-No_Guild_Ownership.esp [Version 1.33]
17 OMOBS.esp [Version 1.0]
18 OMOBS_SI.esp [Version 1.0]
19 OOO-WaterFish.esp [Version 1.34]
1A Better Dark Brotherhood Sanctuary.esp
1B Slof's Oblivion Goth Shop.esp
1C 24HrArenaAliveV2.esp
1D 24HrArenaAliveV2Towers.esp
1E 24HrArenaAliveLow.esp
1F Knights.esp
20 Knights - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.9]
21 Harvest [Flora].esp [Version 3.0.0]
22 Harvest [Flora] - Shivering Isles.esp [Version 3.0.0]
23 Dungeon Actors Have Torches 1.6 DT.esp
24 Exterior Actors Have Torches 1.3 DT.esp
25 Short Grass V3.esp
26 StarX Vampire Deaths.esp
27 Alternative Start by Robert Evrae.esp
28 RenGuardOverhaul.esp
29 RenGuardOverhaulShiveringIsles.esp
2A 300ft_crime_detection-7319.esp
2B Denock Arrows.esp
2C ptThrowingWeapons.esp
2D Cosmetic Compilation.esp
2E Cosmetic Compilation - No NPC Changes.esp
2F No More Annoying Comments.esp
** All Natural - Indoor Weather Filter For Mods.esp [Version 0.9.9.5]
30 Bashed Patch, 0.esp
31 KartArena_Amulet.esp
32 RSArmor.esp
33 NoOblivionWeatherOutside.esp

what can i use to stop the shuddering?..... i have a amd 3800+, 4gb ram, and a 3650 ati radeon 1gb over clocked edition video card.

» Sun Jan 30, 2011 10:37 pm

Try deactivating All Natural. Your GPU might not be strong enough for it.

» Sun Jan 30, 2011 7:05 pm

I'm not sure I agree with that assessment. Real lights module maybe. The bigger killer is probably the 'actors have torches' esps. They wrecked my fps when I tried them. Try just disabling those and/or adding the 'no light flicker' tweak to your bashed patch. Have you tried Stutter Remover? Might help.

Also, have a defrag, never hurts.

» Sun Jan 30, 2011 9:39 am

i do have stutter remover..... but i never heard of the no light flicker tweak in the bash patch.... what option is that under?..... i also completely forgot i have the really everything is visible when distant mod... though i have it deactivated in wyre is it possible the mod is still active since i had to install it manually instead of bain?

» Mon Jan 31, 2011 1:06 am

i have rebuilt my mod set up recenty and i am having some shuddering issues.... here is my mod list

0D IWR-Lights.esp
0E IWR-Windows.esp
0F IWR-Shutters.esp

19 OOO-WaterFish.esp [Version 1.34]

23 Dungeon Actors Have Torches 1.6 DT.esp
24 Exterior Actors Have Torches 1.3 DT.esp
25 Short Grass V3.esp

what can i use to stop the shuddering?..... i have a amd 3800+, 4gb ram, and a 3650 ati radeon 1gb over clocked edition video card.

Almost same specs has you Amd x2 4000, 2 gig ram, ati 3650 512..Xp Sp3..

Remove IWR and use AWLS - Animated Window Lightning System Instead

Remove OOO Waterfish that is killer on frame rates has well..

Actors have Torches are killer on frame rates has well

Short Grass replace with RPG BlackDragon Tripoly Grasses mod instead..

RAEVWD is killer on frame rates and can cause stutter has VWD objects are loadedd etc, but it most optimized, I use it, but, I do not use the plugin it will help alot. Installing with either OMOD or BAIN and Choosing on Fort, Ruins, Cities, Homes, Ships, etc..

My Advice

» Sun Jan 30, 2011 9:06 pm

i do have stutter remover..... but i never heard of the no light flicker tweak in the bash patch.... what option is that under?..... i also completely forgot i have the really everything is visible when distant mod... though i have it deactivated in wyre is it possible the mod is still active since i had to install it manually instead of bain?

No Lights Flicker under Tweak assorted when you rebuild your patch

For RAEVWD, yes all the _far.nif files are probably still in your Data folder. You could try the following Oblivion.ini tweaks -

uGridDistantTreeRange - Default value 15. Setting this lower will reduce the visible distance on trees, and potentially improve frame rates, at a cost to realism. Raising it higher obviously increases the view distance on trees, potentially reducing frame rates for increased realism.

uGridDistantCount - Default value 25. Controls viewable distance for LOD buildings, ruins, etc. Especially useful when installing RAEVWD as lowering this to 20 or 15 will dramatically improve frame rates without having to turn distant objects off completely.

...credit to Arthmoor and Tomlong. I have these set to 10 and 10.

install http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=10400 and adjust the fog values in sl.ini to match the above settings

Good Luck

» Sun Jan 30, 2011 11:42 am

would the dungeon actors still have a hit on frame rate even though they are in a interior type cell?

» Sun Jan 30, 2011 7:21 pm

would the dungeon actors still have a hit on frame rate even though they are in a interior type cell?

Yes, all cases of realistic lighting (torches etc) do so. Although interiors can often be less of a hit in general (smaller space, less stuff for your machine to 'read',) so it may be that the hit is less important in dungeons etc.. Check out your frame rate outside compared to inside caves etc.