Who cares about consumer interests here?!
Whenever you buy a new game it's unfinished but you have to pay full price. That's bs!

Yeah!

And then I eventually get free content through updates months later, like I'm some sort of guinea pig of their generosity!

Lol no game is ever finished. So if you don't like to have bugs/smaller issues with your games, then don't game.

Naw dude naw I need everything I buy to meet every expectation, regardless of how little research I did!

But why wouldn't you research it!!?!?!?!? =O=(

BECAUSE I'M AN OVERLY ENTITLED 16 YEAR OLD BLARAARAGHAGARARAR!

I sense a win in this one

It's true not every game is finished at released, however do to the ability lately to extensively patch games via online updates, it seems publishers and developers are taking advantage of that fact. This game is a perfect example, and I expect in 1 months time to have at least 5 patches to fix all of the issues. Why did they release this game early, saying it was done when it obviously is not. Also, does it cost much to run a beta? I imagine getting servers up and going early adds some cost to things but it helps by getting the games community involved in the process of getting rid of a game's flaws. I really think bethesda and SD dropped the ball here. This feels like a beta to me, the graphics are horribly rendered on my xbox360 and i'm having some terrible texture problems. These are all things that should/could have been fixed. If they have a patch out by the end of the week, why didn't they just fix it and release it on the 19th?

Im not use to the whole bugs and issues in games, ive only recently started pre-ordering games, black ops being my first. I usually buy games after they been out for a few months and never have a problem with them. So give brink a month or 2 and everything will be running great, just got to have patience.

Id have guessed on 14, BUT OH WELL! lol

I think we got our point through hehe.

"This game is a perfect example, and I expect in 1 months time to have at least 5 patches to fix all of the issues." And if just 1 patch fixes this you will continue to scream and yell until you get 4 more patches that don't do jack? Whats with the number? - Yes, I haven't played the game yet, I want to, and tomorrow I will be playing it. Yes if there are problems, they will need to be addressed, but that takes alot of time. I don't know half the story, but first they have to find the exact spot in the code (can take quite a while im sure), then they have to write that up, then they have to check that the write up didnt cause other bugs, then if it did they have to fix those... Trust me, bug fixing takes time, and it is silly to put a date on when EVERYTHING should be fixed, because that won't happen.
As long as the company has stated that they know of the issues, and that they are working on it, I am satisfied. A fix will happen sometime in the future, that is all I need to know. When they get closer to having the patch they will most likely give an ETA, or we will just receive the patch and be happy for the change. Demanding stuff won't get you anywhere.

So basically I shouldn't buy new releases? That doesn't fly with me. Gears of War will not have this problem, because they did a beta. All games where's multiplayer makes up at least 50% of your development's focus should have a beta to fix lag/technical issues and get feedback from gamers. Solves so many issues

Everyone must have this image of Paul Wedgwood swimming through a pool of champagne and drying off with 100 dollar bills going "Ha, what a bunch of svckers!"

Like they honestly don't know or don't care about the issues.

GoW might not have the same issues, but you can bet your own ass on the fact that it will have its own assortment of issues and bugs. You cannot beta test a game so thoroughly that you get all bugs/issues out the door before release date. If that was possible all games would be releasing bug and issue free, and we would never need a patch for any game. We do, so there are always something that can be improved. You might be lucky that you do not stumble across a bug, I have been lucky playing through several games never stumbling on a bug or any issue, where people with the same game have had quite a few.

lol yeah, its not like developers everywhere are reminded, with every release, that life is indeed very very short, and that if they don't fix EVERYTHING AT ONCE, then they will never sell a game again... I'm starting to believe that the dangerous job in the world is being a front person for any game developer

This is the business model game makers have adopted. Not saying that it's right, but we the gamers need to get used to this fact.

Yea...I don't think I've ever seen 'free' content in an X360 or PS3 title because a developer had a crappy launch(or title). Would you care to elaborate?

Beta tests are never on a scale large enough to actually anticipate and test out every lag and technical issue that could arise at launch. GOW3, much like its predecessors, will almost certainly have problems at launch, just like every other online game does. The amount of players online for the GOW3 beta simply pales in comparison to the amount of people who will play that game at launch. You simply cannot replicate launch day conditions through a beta test. Predominantly online games tend to have technical problems at launch - it just comes with the territory of being an early adopter.

Well you see I play on a personal computer where such free installments are generally routine, regardless of the game's launch.

Doesn't matter everybody knows a beta test's purpose and it helps uncover issues that could go unnoticed until the game releases. The fact that this game looks so poor and has awful texture issues is appalling. Try telling me they didn't notice that. I'm no game developer but, if I notice it the second I turn on my xbox then there's no way. I'm not an elitist, but when a game looks like it game out for the original xbox then I'm going to have problems. The gameplay is great, apart from that lag I'm enjoying it. I just can't look at graphics and I guess it's because of the standard you get used to with new games. I've heard maybe they skimped for performance boosts but don't gimme that crap. I shouldn't be able to turn around 90 degrees and turn back and all the textures are screwed up. That's amateur work at best. Haven't seen a game do that in years

Thats hardly true. If every game came out in the state Brink did the gaming industry would have killed itself by now. I don't need to get used to broken games, I just need to stop buying games from the publishers who send them out in this state. You can be sure I won't even give Rage a glance after the Brink launch.

I agree with the complaints about this game, but I'm still having a blast with the game when there aren't major lag issues, which seems to be about 50/50 on the matches I play. If they resolve this, I'll be happy with the game.

I still don't understand why games that are hyped this much (including the COD franchise), don't have a public beta test. I know they want to be all secretive, but seriously guys...these server/lag issues could have been resolved long before release had they allowed a public beta to at least test the capabilities of the servers when thousands of people are all logged in at the same time.

This lag issue is killing this game in the Reviews right now. Whether it is a minority who are moaning about this or not. I really like this game to be honest...but the lag issue has happened enough to me where I'm noticing this being a problem in BRINK more so than any other shooter that I've played which includes all COD games, Gears, Battlefield 2 and Medal of Honor.

Unfortunately, as much as I love Brink, these people have a point. It seems like ever since game developers gained the technology to patch games online, (which is a great technology with a lot of positive uses) they've used it as an excuse to release games that are in poor, near-unplayable condition with the thought of "we can just fix it in a patch later." Patches are great and can really help balance a game and extend it's life, but now developers are using them to justify putting out games and NEED to be patched in order to be properly enjoyed. As I said earlier, I love Brink. I bought it on the Xbox and have been playing it non-stop...offline and in co-op with no more than 4 people, because any more causes lag so bad the game cannot be played.

I KNOW SD is working on it, and I KNOW it will be fixed soon, but this is not something they should have put off until post-release. And before you say it, I KNOW that almost all online games have some lag when they are first released, but I have played a lot of online games on 360 on release day and while the lag may be bad in full multiplayer games, I have never seen a game lag this bad, especially with only 4 or 5 people in it.

I hope SD fixes this soon so I can really enjoy a game that aside from the lag is very fun and well balanced.

Reminds me alot of TDU 2 and that still isn't fixed.

I love being able to play Brink... LMFAO, things like this occur, hey.... who knows, some devs release betas, some don't, not all devs have adopted this method of bug fixing and unfortunately resort to fixing after launch. We just have to wait until they fix the bugs, get over yourselves, it's a program and there are many of us that can play and many that can't, granted for the xbox... there is really no excuse since they are all the same, PC I can be more understanding since every 2 rigs aren't the same. Enjoy it for what it is now and hope they send out the fixes for the xbox and more so the pc

So quit buying games day 1.. give them time to fix it then buy it.. problem solved..