It would be nice to play a nice game of cards in a inn the game to win something from a few coins to a priceless neckless that someone to bet against the other player.

What do you think?

.....uhm...it would be cool if you had to win a priceless artifact from a thief in a quest. :twirl:

yep..definatly need more fun relaxing mini games.. cards, darts, [censored]/dog fights in some grimy tavern basemant, gambling...

though not like the game of cups in tribunal... that dark elf is a straight up conman.

It's disturbing that you find animal cruelty entertaining, and down right deplorable suggesting that such a thing be represented virtually in a video game.

I can live without side games. I actually prefer not having it :X
If I'm in a tavern I'd rather love to have some awesome atmosphere by drinking, talking to other people, spreading rumours and stuff like that. Some "mild" bar fights (not as it was in Oblivion, that was lol and too big ) could be really fun for an exchange!
I personally feel that side games as the examples given in this thread are not suitable fot TES.

Let's have people fight to the death in the arena instead. Much more humane. :rolleyes:

If two kajit slaves were pitted against each other in a death match it still counts as fantasy cause there are no kajits our world. However rooster and dog fighting too closely mirrors serious moral and legal problems in our own society. I can only see such a request coming from the same kind of individuals that want child killing in video games. It's just not appropriate given what is going on in the real world. This is a fantasy game not a simulator for deplorable real life atrocities.

Chicken and dog fights are culturally accepted in many parts of the world. Why is it that bullfighting is ok, but chicken fighting isn't?

Racism is also rampant in TES, why is that ok but an animal fight isn't?

Oblivion pits you against real life animals in the arena. It's part of the Imperial culture. Which was based on our world's Roman culture.

I understand that there are countries where such things are illegal. Such as a problem with illegal dog fighting in Mexico if I recall. But if including dog fighting in a fantasy video game would me immoral, then so would be having the presence of the Dark Brotherhood as merciless assassins accepting any kind of contracts.


Dog/Animal/Small monster fights would be nice to see in Skyrim. In grimy tavern basemants as Do said. With peasants betting their shirt off over who's going to win.

Playing cards/dice games, would be nice too. Like in Tribunal when you could play "Shell's the Game". (Okay, so it was a rigged game. But it was still a game... and had a nice quest to it. )

After dealing with Caravan in Fallout: New Vegas and concluding it to have been (in my opinion) a massive waste of development time that could have been put to better use, I thoroughly disagree.

wanting some entertaining side activities in a videogame =/= being turned on by dogs killing each other.

take of your PC hat will ya.

and yeah like another poster said.. arena is far more humane right? what about the dogs/wolves/bears/deer I killed in oblivion?

In some cultures a 20yr man can marry an 11yr old girl. Does that mean that pedophilia should be depicted in video games? In nearly all democratic countries these things are considered highly illegal.

Because racism is a political interaction between two sentient races. I never said animal fighting wasn't OK, but roosters and dogs are out because of real life events, that here in the States, are a serious problem. It's never going to happen in a Bethesda game because they know well how to avoid a media sht storm.



Humanoid vs killer creature is pretty much the theme of the game and that has no bearing on what i'm talking about and you know it.



Fantasy creatures are acceptable, hell even two rats against each other wouldn't alarm the media. Rooster or Dog fighting however would bring down a media fueled fire storm of controversy that would destroy Bethesda and they know that very well. This has as much chance of happening as child killing, period.

We can kill a plethora of animals in TES game, or even kill a city full of humans.


But dog fighting is cruel.


right...

Did you play mass effect 2? There was "dog" fighting in that game and I never heard a peep from the media.

It's also illegal to steal, murder, maim, and use narcotics for recreational purposes. Should all of those things be cut from the game as well?



And racism isn't a problem in the states at all?

My point is less about the details of the game and more about the inconsistencies that the ESRB and society is ok with.

I would love some mini games like card games, I enjoy gambling in New Vegas a lot. But the AI for card game would definitely have to be better.

Well yes, the closest thing to gambling in Oblivion as the arena, which is very sad when you think about it. So add up a bit more options, such as card games and others too.

And lets cut the talk about dog fights being illegal and moraly horrible etc, it's a matter of culture that's all.

in pretty much every culture theft is illegal - thieves guild
in pretty much every culture murder is illegal - dark brotherhood
in pretty much every culture a fight to the death in an arena that can be gambled on is illegal - arena

are you telling me that you are also against all the above being in a videogame? if not then why? pretty much all the actions mentioned above are worse than animal cruelty. (maybe with the exception of petty theft)

Depends. Atmospheric games like Caravan and the casino games in New Vegas were mostly ignored by me.

If such games offered decent rewards, like having some down-on-his-luck adventurer gamble away a unique artifact... I could dig it.

I'd bet on the brown dog.

Just like how killing and such is virtually repesented in every other game.

it is deplorable that you cant appreciate a dark atmosphere in a video game.... dont you see that people request racism even if its bad

oh yeah cause Rockstar got destroyed when people complained about GTA? and mass effect got destroyed when people complained about six? its a game so it doenst matter to anyone whats going on in it except the medias. and anyway no gamer listen to the medias.

Aside from this off-topic debate on rooster and dog fights, I'm not quite sure about the whole card game idea. It worked...interestingly in Read Dead Redemption, I say interestingly because that is the only word I can think of to describe it; it wasn't particularly amazing, but it had just enough features and little details that didn't make it bad.

Bottom line, I'd say that no matter how detailed you make games like cards and stuff with features like cheating, getting caught at cheating etc. it's still not the most pivotal point of a TES game, so should only, and I mean only, when the developers have ironed out all the bugs, made sure the big cities are crowded with NPC's, there are no accidentally broken quests etc.


Lol, 'ironed out all the bugs' as if that's even possible in TES games :rofl:

It would be, in a perverse sort of way, if the humans CHOSE to do it.

... Lol... You're sort of the anti-thesis to the gamer who wants anything to do other then go from fight to fight and quest to quest in game aren't you? Some games have done these mini-games well, granted very very few, but the only way they improve is by criticism and continued effort. Just because they fail once doesn't mean give up and forget about it, it means try again and work off what you had to make it better...

Based on your logic the shoddy combat system in Oblivion means that melee combat should be removed, since after all they didn't do a very good job in oblivion to begin with, so why bother? Very poor logic indeed...