Single Disc for Xbox 360 Version

Post » Wed Sep 14, 2011 3:19 pm

I am surprised not body said this. (unless I missed it by scrolling too fast.)

The last Xbox 360 update, had a feature for the 360s to read the new discs that have an extra 1 gigabite (or is it gigabyte?) of information, so all gaming compaines can put more on a disc now. Not sure if the discs are dual layerd or not, (I don't think so) so now you can have what 2.8 or more gigs on a disc now for the 360.
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Post » Wed Sep 14, 2011 3:30 pm

Lol, I remember playing Final Fantasy you had like three discs.
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Post » Wed Sep 14, 2011 10:57 pm

I could be wrong, but i'm pretty sure Square Enix said that they didn't have to compress anything in the PS3 version of FFXIII, but they did for the 360 version. If they were able to not have to compress any of the cutscenes, or audio in that game with the Blu Ray disc then maybe BGS won't have to with Skyrim?

The FFXIII cutscenes for the PS3 are still compressed, just not as much as the cutscenes in the 360 version of the game (which also have a lower resolution). If the cutscenes truly were uncompressed the game would have been shipped on lots of blu-ray discs. Even the video in blu-ray movies are compressed (but the audio often isn't).

Anyway, the PS3 version of FFXIII supposingly have 10 hours of 1080p cutscenes. With 24 frames a second, without any compression that would be 1920 (X res) x 1080 (Y res) x 3 (byte depth = 24bit) x 24 (frames) x 60 (seconds) x 60 (minutes) x 10 (hours) = 5374GB. And a dual-layer blu-ray disc is 50GB, so 108 blu-ray discs would have been needed if the cutscenes were uncompressed. Instead it was compressed down to 32GB.
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Post » Wed Sep 14, 2011 1:35 pm

The FFXIII cutscenes for the PS3 are still compressed, just not as much as the cutscenes in the 360 version of the game (which also have a lower resolution). If the cutscenes truly were uncompressed the game would have been shipped on lots of blu-ray discs. Even the video in blu-ray movies are compressed (but the audio often isn't).

Anyway, the PS3 version of FFXIII supposingly have 10 hours of 1080p cutscenes. With 24 frames a second, without any compression that would be 1920 (X res) x 1080 (Y res) x 3 (byte depth = 24bit) x 24 (frames) x 60 (seconds) x 60 (minutes) x 10 (hours) = 5374GB. And a dual-layer blu-ray disc is 50GB, so 108 blu-ray discs would have been needed if the cutscenes were uncompressed. Instead it was compressed down to 32GB.


I knew compression techniques were much better these days, but that certainly puts it into perspective.
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Post » Wed Sep 14, 2011 7:57 am

I knew compression techniques were much better these days, but that certainly puts it into perspective.

Well, truth to be told, few things can be compressed as much as video. And the TES games have very little video, in Oblivion there's the intro and that's pretty much it.
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Post » Wed Sep 14, 2011 4:58 pm

It fits into one disc because Bethesda can do magic.
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Post » Wed Sep 14, 2011 8:51 am

They now make high capacity DvDs so that with compression techniques you con hold two or three normal games on a disk.
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Post » Wed Sep 14, 2011 2:49 pm

Quite a few of my games take up 25-30 GB.... pretty soon Blue-ray discs will be too small to fit a game on.
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Post » Wed Sep 14, 2011 10:38 pm

Quite a few of my games take up 25-30 GB.... pretty soon Blue-ray discs will be too small to fit a game on.

I think I read something saying they can just add more layers, the 50gb is just standard.
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Post » Wed Sep 14, 2011 12:28 pm

Ok, let me clear things up.
OB was distributed on a single layer disk, THAT is why content was cut in order to make it fit.
OB is 4.16 gigs on disk
FO3 was distributed on a dual layer disk and is 5.51 gigs on disk

Dual layer disk max cap = 8.5 gig(HDDVD = 9.5)

That means that Skyrim has 3 gigs more space available to it than was used in FO3.

Add better compression methods which are confirmed and there really is no need to worry about space. There is plenty.
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Post » Wed Sep 14, 2011 10:40 am

Ok, let me clear things up.
OB was distributed on a single layer disk, THAT is why content was cut in order to make it fit.
OB is 4.16 gigs on disk
FO3 was distributed on a dual layer disk and is 5.51 gigs on disk

Dual layer disk max cap = 8.5 gig(HDDVD = 9.5)

That means that Skyrim has 3 gigs more space available to it than was used in FO3.

Add better compression methods which are confirmed and there really is no need to worry about space. There is plenty.


Is that HDDVD Microsoft's new format?
Looks like we've go plenty of space, though.
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Post » Wed Sep 14, 2011 11:15 pm

Hmm.. probably the same way Oblivion fit on one disc. Yes I know they struggled a bit back then, but that was 5 years ago. Tech is better now.
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Post » Wed Sep 14, 2011 8:16 am

Hmm.. probably the same way Oblivion fit on one disc. Yes I know they struggled a bit back then, but that was 5 years ago. Tech is better now.

Well, the sad truth is dual layer was available then it was just very expensive to distribute media on. That changed about 3 years ago.
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Post » Wed Sep 14, 2011 3:01 pm

From what I've heard, just some fantastic compression techniques...
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Post » Wed Sep 14, 2011 1:38 pm

vacuum packed.
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Post » Wed Sep 14, 2011 11:49 pm

I was wondering , is xbox360 going to have 2 discs because that would be irritating. Does anyone know???
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Post » Wed Sep 14, 2011 12:48 pm

1 disk
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Post » Wed Sep 14, 2011 8:05 pm

It's all going to fit on one disc. I don't have a source, but I'm pretty sure that was confirmed.
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Post » Wed Sep 14, 2011 1:58 pm

nope, inconcievable.

more than one disc? what is this a jrpg for the ps1?
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Post » Wed Sep 14, 2011 5:11 pm

One
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Post » Wed Sep 14, 2011 6:54 pm

1 disk

Yep one disc. I was personally hoping for two, with one being a full-install. But oh well. :shrug:
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Post » Wed Sep 14, 2011 10:54 pm

Yep one disc. I was personally hoping for two, with one being a full-install. But oh well. :shrug:


Couldn't do that due to the fact every Xbox doesn't have a HD but... ya
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Post » Wed Sep 14, 2011 1:04 pm

thanx :celebration:
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Post » Wed Sep 14, 2011 10:07 am

Couldn't do that due to the fact every Xbox doesn't have a HD but... ya

While I know that is the reason, I find it hard to believe people still have an X-box without an HDD. I mean, they quit selling them like that ages ago. Besides the fact that if you want practically any DLC it would require an HDD. But of course there would be complaints if it required an install. Just wishful thinking on my part.
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Post » Wed Sep 14, 2011 1:51 pm

Really, just one disk? L.A Norie was 3 disk and its barely the same size of Skyrim.
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