single suit armor : V - Skyrim

» Wed May 18, 2011 7:10 pm

"...clothing will be simplified, with outfits and armor sets coming as a single suit rather than separate parts."

notice how they still say "armor sets"..... why use the word sets if armor is only 1 piece? i'm going to go ahead and believe for now that this is referring to the menu system and how its all organized in there... and like other people have stated.... why put so much work into the crafting system if there is only 1 armor type? ? why bring back enchanting if your going to limit its practicality so much?

it just doesn't make sense.... none of it.... i'm going to go take a nap and hope the answer if found by the time i wake up.

» Wed May 18, 2011 10:47 pm

"...clothing will be simplified, with outfits and armor sets coming as a single suit rather than separate parts."

notice how they still say "armor sets"..... why use the word sets if armor is only 1 piece? i'm going to go ahead and believe for now that this is referring to the menu system and how its all organized in there... and like other people have stated.... why put so much work into the crafting system if there is only 1 armor type? ? why bring back enchanting if your going to limit its practicality so much?

it just doesn't make sense.... none of it.... i'm going to go take a nap and hope the answer if found by the time i wake up.

Sweet dreams, don't let the mad god bite

» Thu May 19, 2011 2:22 am

this was something else new to me that was in the artical...

sword and torch- "Not only can torches light dark areas, but they can now be used for blocking, and bashing enemies will set them on fire."

i heard about torches being back, but i never suspected you could use them as a shield and to set things on fire

It's a neat feature. What I would like to know anyway is if this is only aplied when it using with other weapon or you can also single wield a torch.

» Wed May 18, 2011 9:03 pm

This has been said, but Pete Hines...

» Wed May 18, 2011 11:00 pm

If it was true, I wouldn't play Skyrim. But I know Bethesda isn't that stupid.

Sounds like Natural Evolution to me. :whistling:

» Wed May 18, 2011 11:22 pm

Sounds like Natural Evolution to me. :whistling:

Sounds like a misunderstanding and not going to happen to me.

» Wed May 18, 2011 9:36 pm

Sounds like Natural Evolution to me. :whistling:

sure it would about as sensible an evolution as humans evolving into dwarf platypus's :facepalm:

» Thu May 19, 2011 1:32 am

If this is true, is it possible people could mod it to work by splitting meshes and neatening them up a bit and adding additional slots to allow you to put them on with?

» Thu May 19, 2011 10:39 am

I wouldn't mind having a single armor as it would allow more armors into the game then what Beth could currently put in, the only major problem is that it would be a dramatic fundamental shift from what they have done in the past with the Armor and I'm pretty sure that the majority of hardcoe ES players would be outraged if this happened.

I never played armored anyway so who cares?!

:whistling:

» Wed May 18, 2011 11:25 pm

Single suit armor is not unique to fallout, and has appeared before in TES games. It seems obvious to me that this is the direction that they are going in.

"Armor is comprised of multiple pieces" could mean almost anything. It could mean Hat + Armor. It could mean Armor + Rings. It could mean Hat + Armor + Rings. It could mean Pauldrons+ Greaves + Gloves + Boots + Cuirass + Hat + Rings.

Bethesda has a lot of good practical reasons for simplifying armor. The only real reason NOT to is "it will piss off the TES faithful." I think with the release of Oblivion, it became clear that Bethesda doesn't consider this to be a good reason not to change things.

» Thu May 19, 2011 12:39 am

sure it would about as sensible an evolution as humans evolving into dwarf platypus's :facepalm:

Like perry? XD

» Thu May 19, 2011 5:30 am

I never played armored anyway so who cares?!

:whistling:

the people who do wear armor . just look at the poll results.

» Wed May 18, 2011 8:46 pm

I've looked at some pictures and seen some differences.

The dual wielding guy from the trailer is wearing the same gloves as the Khajiit from the Khajiit picture, but with different armor that doesn't even look anything like the one the Khajiit is wearing. The big difference is the shoulder guards... http://www.computerandvideogames.com/viewer.php?mode=article&id=247638http://www.computerandvideogames.com/viewer.php?mode=article&id=247642 http://img.neoseeker.com/v_image.php?type=news&articleid=16254&image=1

Also seen fur/iron boots that looked the same style as the aforementioned gloves being worn without the gloves on other pictures...

» Wed May 18, 2011 10:57 pm

Single suit armor is not unique to fallout, and has appeared before in TES games. It seems obvious to me that this is the direction that they are going in.

"Armor is comprised of multiple pieces" could mean almost anything. It could mean Hat + Armor. It could mean Armor + Rings. It could mean Hat + Armor + Rings. It could mean Pauldrons+ Greaves + Gloves + Boots + Cuirass + Hat + Rings.

Bethesda has a lot of good practical reasons for simplifying armor. The only real reason NOT to is "it will piss off the TES faithful." I think with the release of Oblivion, it became clear that Bethesda doesn't consider this to be a good reason not to change things.

We've been through this many times before. No one will be satisfied until they play the game and are the armor separated themselves.

» Thu May 19, 2011 11:31 am

There seems to be some sort of ambiguity in the information we've obtained.

Here's a quote from a recent interview (article posted on June 3rd, 2011) with Bruce Nesmith (Lead Designer):

One of the hallmarks of our games is an abundance of loot. We have thousands of different weapons and pieces of armor, not to mention potions, scrolls, alchemy ingredients, jewelry, gems, etc. Also many of the unique daedric artifacts are making a return. So we’re giving the player the best of both worlds.

Source: http://www.xbox360achievements.org/news/news-8567-The-Elder-Scrolls--Skyrim-Q-A-With-Lead-Designer--Bruce-Nesmith.html

» Thu May 19, 2011 8:57 am

We've been through this many times before. No one will be satisfied until they play the game and are the armor separated themselves.

I don't know, what are the chances that we might get more information from E3?

» Thu May 19, 2011 7:23 am

There is still a chance some sets of clothing or guild uniforms could be single.

» Wed May 18, 2011 9:58 pm

@Lightcrux Thank you.

@battt We'll be seeing a demo at E3, so that could ease peoples minds.

» Wed May 18, 2011 8:52 pm

There seems to be some sort of ambiguity in the information we've obtained.

Here's a quote from a recent interview (article posted on June 3rd, 2011) with Bruce Nesmith (Lead Designer):

Source: http://www.xbox360achievements.org/news/news-8567-The-Elder-Scrolls--Skyrim-Q-A-With-Lead-Designer--Bruce-Nesmith.html

oh thank the gods! confirmation this is all just a misunderstanding :hugs:

» Wed May 18, 2011 7:12 pm

I've looked at some pictures and seen some differences.

The dual wielding guy from the trailer is wearing the same gloves as the Khajiit from the Khajiit picture, but with different armor that doesn't even look anything like the one the Khajiit is wearing. The big difference is the shoulder guards... http://www.computerandvideogames.com/viewer.php?mode=article&id=247638http://www.computerandvideogames.com/viewer.php?mode=article&id=247642 http://img.neoseeker.com/v_image.php?type=news&articleid=16254&image=1

Also seen fur/iron boots that looked the same style as the aforementioned gloves being worn without the gloves on other pictures...

This doesn't confirm separate pieces. This could simply be because they said they are having race specific armor. So maybe each race has its own version of say, leather armor, and that is why some pieces look the same while others don't.

» Thu May 19, 2011 9:08 am

i think the most likely thing will be more armors like DB in oblivion, but we'll still have pieces.

» Wed May 18, 2011 8:28 pm

the people who do wear armor . just look at the poll results.

Tongue in cheek my friend. Even though I tend to stay away from armor moving toward full suits would be a ridiculously bad decision, imo.

But, it sounds on par with every other cut and "streamlining" effort I have heard about so far. So I am not so sure this is all just a misunderstanding.

» Thu May 19, 2011 6:41 am

This doesn't confirm separate pieces. This could simply be because they said they are having race specific armor. So maybe each race has its own version of say, leather armor, and that is why some pieces look the same while others don't.

except the khajiit isnt wearing leather

» Wed May 18, 2011 9:36 pm

oh thank the gods! confirmation this is all just a misunderstanding :hugs:

Call me a pessimist but I wouldn't call this an official conformation. I've noticed quite a bit of ambiguous information and with most of us, forum-goers, misconstruing the information we've been provided with, I would rather wait for Bethesda's final word on this.

» Thu May 19, 2011 2:01 am

Tongue in cheek my friend. Even though I tend to stay away from armor this would be a ridiculously bad decision, imo.

yes it would be a disasterous decision that would taint even skyrims great image but lightcrux put my fears to rest