I'm not for or against it but again why should that be left up to modders then ?

if a developer want that in their game then they should have the balls to do it and not let someone else mod it later .

Because the developer has to make a game that will appeal to a lot of people
A modder makes the mod they want and if other people like it great, if not they don't have to have it in their game
I'd like sixual suggestiveness, innuendo etc added but not so much it dominates the game
No six scenes please, The Witcher handled it with all the maturity of a 13 year old boy

Why do you all think that the witcher displayed six immature? Heck, even to me, something similar happened - twice! Without going into much detail: In one of the examples, a girl that i only saw once (!) before and barely talked to, and wich was NOT some fat ugly chick in desperate need of it, called me at 1am in the morning, i drove to her, and bam. In the other, i was at a Metal Festival, saw a girl that looked somwhat good (and wich was not drunk, surprisingly...), asked: "Hey, you wanna have six with me?" and she just replied "Hm, yeah... why not?" Really immature six right there, isn't it? I guess i'm doing something wrong. Sometimes it just happens, and that is how the Witcher displayed it, like it or not. What kind of mature display of six do you want? What is your idea of "Mature six"? Like it is displayed in Dragon Age 1? Having to raise a disposition bar to a certain point until you allowed to hit it? Sorry, but that is not how casual six works, hence the term One Night Stand... Consensual six in the missionary position for the sole purpose of procreation really does not happen that often, most of the time it is just a recreational relaxing activity, nothing more, nothing less...

Sorry about this rant, but everytime someones mentions six in the Witcher it is called "immature", wich it is not, period. Geralt is in a fine position: Unable to procreate, immune to STDs, and without a girfriend or wife, he just CAN have six with everybody that is willing. Bear in mind that he does not get any sort of fulfillment or lasting satisfaction from it, it is just a distraction for a short period of time, nothing more. He is just DOING it because he says to himself: "Yes I can!" Granted, this is not how six is experienced by most of mankind, but a small fraction of the population, still, there is almost no way that six can be displayed immature, since every possibility was reality at some point in space-time, everything must have happened at least once, since there is no thing that the human mind could invent that has not or will not happen in the past or the future.

I don't use mods as long as I don't have to and it gets me that anytime someone suggests something, someone always replies "let the modders handle it".

Why?? If it can be put in the game, let the creators put it in the game. Going in a site, finding a mod, reading all its features and downloading it to your game is not the same as starting up your game and being pleasantly surprised by the content in it. It completely ruins the sense of exploration and spontaneity in my opinion.

sixual themes? Yes, I would like some... isn't this inspired by Conan after all ?

six itself? No thanks, pixels just don't do it for me I'm afraid.

QFT

Being ablle to marry is one thing but to go on more than that just takes away purpose of the true elements of skyrim

You honestly think Dragon Age simulated relationships good? Oh dear....someone cleary lack relaionships experience :nope:

Roleplaying games means (for me) that you can be and do whatever you want. In a world full of people of all races you just have to be able to get laid at least ONCE. I mean come on, if Im about to save Skyrim i deserve some kahjiitbuttock!

there was the house servant in Skingrad who you can buy.

I'm sure she suggests she did extras for her previous employer (the shop keeper who you buy her from)

Hopefully we can buy concubines to look after our houses and they do extras. I'm not talking the full Fable thing with all the silly graphic noises. Just that they walk to the bed and wake up next to you.

If so I think my Nord will have one Nord concubine and one Redguard concubine to protect his house and to keep him warm at night.

OB didn't have much about six really unless you really looked for it. I think FO3 was ok in the amount it talked about it. It wasn't overwhelming, but wasn't hidden from sight either.

Theres no reason to think Bethesda want sixual content in their games but even if they did as a company they have to take into account the market. There are very few extra sales in adding explicit sixual content and quite a lot would be lost.
Since Bethesda include the capacity to mod their games and support modding (hence the mods forums) that indicates to me that they encourage people to play the game the way they want to play it and don't get all precious about people playing it the way it "was intended to be played".

Innuendos are good
six scenes are cheesy and crap.
Even Bioware who are highly regarded as making the best romances in the business, don't make very good romances.

You can get married. If you can... well... get a descendant or something, then maybe there will be references to six.

Other than that, I don't think it will actually fit in a game like Elder Scrolls. Heroes don't go around saying obscene stuff like it's nothing, and people who talk with heroes don't usually say obscene stuff like it's nothing

I could be wrong though

how's this for a hero? XD

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Giuh8lXAk4E

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yAhZ-un_uI8

Bioware is making the best romances ...?

Try "dozens of Japanese visual novel companies" instead.

Since when is six obscene? I mean, the hero wont ask to [censored] a dog, would he? He is not GG Allin after all. I admit, i find too much sixual reference annoying, but mostly in movies where it is drawn out to fill a quarter of an hour or more of valuable time in wich a story could be told. Since there is no time limit for an Elder Scrolls game, it is not that much of an issue. And if you look at real world middle ages, everybody was making sixual references and dirty talk all the time... and just look at the affairs of kings and other nobles, wich litterally changed woman like clothes, like Henry VIII. It was only by the influence of the church that six was condemned. Look at all the tribe and nature religions, at the sixual ritual. Even nordic legends depict six rather grafically if my memorie serves me well. six has always been and will always be the strongest drive of humankind, but still, nobody talks really freely about it. And if you do, you are "obscene", "a walking hormone" or worse. So if anything, it should be referenced more, for the sake of realism. Not in the way that you have six constantly, but that people talk about it, in a natural way. This hypocritic prudency annoys me more than the bad implementation of six in games. And i think many of you mistake six for romance, wich it is not, not in the slightest. I mean, why is the internet full of porm? Because people demand it! Look at Freud, to him almost everything was sixual in some deranged way, prove enough that it is on our minds constantly. True, pixel romance is not the real deal, but so is our imagination, and the pixels just fuel our imagination.

Wasn't it since... I don't know... since clothings were invented?

@nightcobra: my internet is not suited for video streaming,especially since I have to spend an hour waiting for a 10 minutes video to complete. What happened in them?

Am I the only one who remembers the Palace of Earthly Delights in Morrowind? It is essentially a strip club/brothel with several dancing girls in it.

They all have their classic blocky undergarments on but this is basically considered naked. Like when you take off all your clothes in the same way the inhabitants say things like "Eww... Put on some clothes...".

And yes I would like to something similar to this in Skyrim but not any actual six or awkward "comedic" references. A sleazy bar would fit reasonably well into the gameworld without being offensive.

it was the song from beowulf

There were a dozen virgins
Fresians Thanes and Franks
We took them for some pickn'
but all we got were [censored].


*Chorus
Oh, we are Beowulf's army.
Each a mighty Thane
we'll pummel your asses
and ravage your lasses
and do it all over again.



The prettiest of the virgins
she was so fair and sweet.
I told her I'd a organ
For where to spread my seeed.
*Chorus
The oldest of the virgins
she was a vandal lass.
I showed her my mighty weapon
and she showed me her ass.
*Chorus
The fattest of the virgins
we took her for a [censored].
I gave her all me codpiece
she still wanted more.
*Chorus
Her sister was from Norway
She cost me 20 groats.
She showed there was more ways
then oneto show me oats.
*Chorus
Her mother was from Iceland
and she was very hot.
It took a whole damn iceberg
to cool her burning [censored].
*Chorus
Army:HA HA HA HA HA!!!!!

Hmmm... Just wanted to add my 2 cents. I'm female and I never so six in The Witcher as immature, it is more a continuation of who and what Geralt is - if you know his story you know that there is not way for him to one day settle with a nice girl and have a family, and the women around know it to, for them he is an exotic adventure, but in no way a husband material, the mere idea is laughable, so he simply accepts what drifts his way to get what companionship he can no matter how brief. All of his affairs even the once that he was very serious about held no promises or obligations, because with the life he leads and can not abandon simply because of what he is, it can't be any other way.
six in the Witcher is handled with a lot of maturity, the kind that comes after you stop believing in true love and happy ever afters.

But it is not the same setting in TES, so I woun't be saying that we need something similar in Skyrim. Skyrim's heroes are hardly Geralt

Well good thing that my in my country clothing where invented for warmth than six was never considered obscene here.

Nope, can't be, look at Romans and especially the Greek. You may want to look at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pederasty, the german wiki page contains better images, though.

Edit: @Sshodan: Ha, finally, someone who understood the Witcher. May i ask from wich country you hail, in regard to your post above me? You seem to be a reasonable people there.

Jesus, there were legends about usurpers killing each other over upskirts here, but not a song about six. Another bright point for foreign culture

@Xeiki
six is, has been, and probably will stay obscene for the next 3 years over here. Or maybe I just don't know about history well enough :shrug: I hate history lessons