six made more sense in Fallout 2 as taking part in the act could lead to some change or consequence in the existing game world. I don't know if that is the same in NV. The idea of "six with an npc" isn't something that interests me, so I skip it entirely. Maybe someone who's had six at every possible opportunity in NV could speak to whether it affects dialogue, a quest, world event or even one of the ending slides.

As for why you don't actually see the act, I don't think we need to. That would hardly be appropriate.

DLC pack coming to a store near you soon: "Bended Steel; Son of Fisto".

It's simple. The difference between depicting six and not depicting six is the difference between two ratings. M - for Mature, and AO - advlts Only. See if they included something as arbitrary as a simulated, graphic representation of six in the game, the folks who rate video games (the ESRB in the United States, the most lax rating board in the world probably) would be forced to give the game an AO rating. Now this may seem silly to some of you but let me point out that there are very few AO rated games in the world today, and none of which have made sales on the level of M rated games. This is in large part due to the fact that no major retailers would carry an AO rated game for the same reason most major retailers don't sell XXX or crush videos.

So it's a choice. Developers can submit the will of a minority group of players who are waiting for them to make a game showing a short clip of their player getting freaky with some pixelated person which would put the title at risk of attaining the AO rating and dooming their title to the aisles of XXX stores...

OR

... the developer could make a game that forgoes including unimportant scenes for the viewing pleasure of a small group of people who want to get some digital action, (potentially pissing them off) and get the M rating which allows them to sell their product in the video game aisle at Wal-Mart and Best Buy.

Me personally, I'm glad they didn't because since they didn't choose to include the sixual exploits of the courier, I was able to buy this game at Wal-Mart.

Dragon Age Origins did six scenes quite well and that is M rated, I'm not bothered about seeing the scene in every erotic detail, but a darkening screen then nothing, seems to me they just could not be bothered, nothing to do with the rating.

Dragon Age: Origins was also a third-person perspective based game with cinematic scenes. Fallout 3 and Fallout: New Vegas are first-person and third-person based with no cinematic scenes. Including a six scene into the game that isn't graphic in detail would be almost impossible without affecting the rating of them game. The alternative would be to force a third-person cinematic scene, but that would break the mold of the game. That'd be like forcing the player to watch something happen in the third-person perspective in Half-Life (a game heralded for the lack of cinematic scenes and instead telling the entire story through the eyes of the main character.).

lol

I disagree that Dragon Age: Origins did six scenes well. They managed to be simultaneously dull and gratuitous. The song Leliana sang in camp was far more erotic than watching my character stare wall-eyed at the top of the tent.

I think until, socially, our views on six and sixuality change in a big way... you're never going to see more than mediocre attempts at capturing a faint glimpse of it in games. And although very few of us will agree on what exactly -constitutes- a good representation of six in video games... I think it is safe to say that if we all have a general idea of what we would personally like to see.

So rather than let this become some kind of a statement about what games we think did six justice... let's instead look at it from this other angle.

If you feel like six ought to be a reality of certain types of games... how do you think it ought to be implemented?

Eh. I could care less about six in games, really. With a little effort you can get six in real life. Real life does not allow saving the populace of post atomic DC or Las Vegas by blowing the heads off evil slavers and mutants. Let's concentrate on that.

Because we all know blowing someone's head up into a million chunks is okay, but seeing six, OMFG NO WAI!!!!!!11111

I think by doing this, Bethesda is saying: STOP REPOPULATING THE WORLD MORONS! WE ALREADY DESTROYED IT TWICE!
And for the arguments against the lack of nudity in Fallout:
"Horrific, deplorable violence is ok. As long as no one says [censored], [censored], or [censored]."
-TAOR Episode 40

Funnily enough, that isn't even romance related.

As for New Vegas, it seems there is (not shown) six everywhere :ahhh: Though in my honest opinion, those "six sounds" in Gomorrah sound more like someone gettng murdered to me ^_^

How do you know they aren't someone getting murdered. We already know that prosttutes get killed at Gomorrah on occasion. :3

Honestly I don't understand why the screen just fades to black, you don't hear anything, and it just fades back. I mean just walk into Gamorrah and the ENTIRE time you are there you hear inappropriate background noise especially if you are walking in and around the suites.

six got a little more interesting with FONV just like drug use got a little more interesting with Point Lookout. I would rather not say how much I enjoyed Walking With Spirits. Also I made no less than sixteen batches of Moonshine with one of my characters. Why? Becuase the visceral vicarious voyeur in me was getting off on such delinquencies. I'd be the first to admit that the first time I waltzed into a cathouse, Zoestra lounge or scored in FONV I was like "hell yeah".

But it is enough, if I want porm I will shell out fifteen bucks and rent one...we don't need the game getting carried away.

Sometimes moderation is what makes something fun...

I don't really care either way, I just think it is beyond [censored] that a pair of briasts are more horrible to behold than someone's head being blown to bits. But that is society for you.

There are people who obsessively exhaust every possible dialogue option. I feel very sorry for the prudish player who has no choice but to accept any proposition, be it from ghoul, same six character or robot.

Just say no. Besides the post ..uh "operation".. dialogue options with Fisto are hilarious

..Everyone knows- six is evil.
Anyone suggesting that, should have their brains blown and arms hacked off.

But really, people are idiots and sense of what is "right" or wrong" is just messed up.
Always been.

six with prosttutes isn't all that great in real life, why would it be any different in a game? To improve the immersion they should have added some squeaking bedsprings then a bored female voice asking "Are you through yet?" before it fades back out. If you make friends with Sarah Weintraub things go considerably differently...but then she isn't a hoker.

I could be wrong, but from what I know the U.S. is in particular one of the countries that handles the concept of six the worst. At least when it comes to how they rate things. Where as severe violence(at least in movies) will be rated PG, six will be rated M(and if it's too detailed, it gets that one other rating I can't remember which gets the rated product banned from stores like Walmart). Again, could be wrong, but I heard Europe and/or Canada handles it far better and handles the issue of rating violence/six almost if not entirely oppositely. It's all about who's in power in the rating system-and their personal opinion. (I think someone else, however, already stated that here)

As others have said, video games are still treated as if kiddish. If following movies at all, I'm guessing this ridiculous idea will fade away and things like six and such won't be such a big deal. But in any case, I agree that the whole anti-six view opposed to anti-violence view is ludicrous. The only people disturbed by the concept of six are taught to be that way by whoever raised them-things like [censored] are traumatizing, yes, but not six itself.

It's almost amusing how the popular view-at least in the United States' media-kind of contradicts an animal's typical instincts, since those instincts involve its own and its species' survival ultimately.

Actually there is supposed to be sound effects but they are bugged currently, i noticed a fix for it on Nexus the other day. And you get the temporary Well Rested perk

I get the sound effects, two consecutive ones :goodjob:

I get the sound effects every time with the women you don't pay, but when you hire Sweetie, Dazzle or the old woman it would just fade to black for a couple seconds then back to where you were. Seemed to me there was a definite difference those whose affections you won via a quest....or seduce with Lady Killer or speech checks...and those you paid.