LEAVE THE IMMATURITY AT THE door, if you cannt, then this topic isn't for you. Other Major TITLES and RPG title (witcher, mass effect, GTA 5, etc) This is a General Discussion democratic way on whether there should there be six in fallout seeing that there is already violence, glorify one advlt topic and censoring another is it right, this other post was frozen denying other to join in othe discussion because it reached its max limit of comments, but should the polls, i dunno, above my pay grade but the discussion can continue here, please feel free to join here. other post here (http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1563370-nudity/)? seeing that we all had to be 18 or older to accessing the game i'm assuming only advlts and MATURE audiences are playing it. Also should there be transgender characters in Fallout 4? please vote and add your input. if you are offended i am sorry but maybe your not mature enough for this discussion.

It would be better if you defined your terms.

Specifically, "should" has a lot of meanings. I voted based on the one I see on the forums, where it seems to relate to what would enhance my personal play experience.

And there "should" always be an "I don't care" option.

At this point I can't help but feeling, that you keep picking controversial topics for your polls, for the sole reason of stirring up the waters.

Not including is not the same as censoring. Just think about all the things they could be accused of censoring by not including them, if that is your standard. The struggle for womens rights, the struggle for mens right, black rights, circumsition, jews, the list goes on and on. This is ridiculous.

Meh personally I dont think any game should intentionally shoehorn in six just for the sake of it, if a game designer choose to and implements it in a tasteful fashion, fine. But if a game designer choose not to, I feel we should respect that.

(And honestly I personally find its ironically childish to specifically ask for six to be added, because face it, it really only sounds like there is one particular reason why you ask for it to begin with)


As for transgender, only if Beth finds it story related to do so, adding one just because is a shallow exuse.

I think you can wear dresses and I'm sure I've seen a raider in a frock so that counts towards transgender. There is also six in fallout 4 but it's that we'll hidden you would likely not notice it.

I think they should do it how it was done in the fable games tbh.

The other thread was closed because of the post limit. Not even sure why you have 'democracy' as a tagline.

Also, six shouldn't be in video games, not because of tastes or morality, but because it never seems to come off right. Always feels cringeworthy to me.

As for Transgenders? Honestly, while I'm MTF myself, don't see the need for it. I'd rather not have to constantly avoid reading about Jack Thompson and friends screaming about sin in games.

You are the worst poster ever.

thank you for your input so far.

I voted yes. As long as it's done good enough.

The Witcher 3: Wild Hunt does it good enough and CD Projekt RED sold 6+ million copies.

Bethesda Softworks and Bethesda Game Studios sold and shipped 12+ million copies of Fallout 4 and I'm sure most of those people are 18+ years old.

i'll say it again, this sort of thing should be left to modding community

Bethesda is not the government and should not steer away from their main purpose to appease the impulses of a minority

also, am i the only one that doesn't want six, nudity, etc. in games? or at least in games like this?

when Bethesda makes rpg's...video games, I dont think they ever had in mind titilating the six drives of advlts, if that is what you are looking for then I think you're looking in the wrong area, this kind of crap pisses me off actually

why do the Freudian over (or perhaps under) sixed population and people that like to spend all their extra time 'discovering themselves' and pawns to the media have to come in and ruin it for the rest of us...

F these posts, take your political hooha elsewhere

Fallout 4 already has "six" but it's not shown. I'm fine with that because six scenes were always dumb in movies, comics and games.

thanks for voting, keep it coming. the witcher did do a good job ballower. im now more curious what Borderlands will do though not in regards to graphics but game play in regards to similaritys to fallout

There's always been six in Fallout. It's just never been graphically depicted. Of course, the real question being asked is probably "should six be graphically depicted in an M-rated manner, in the vein of Witcher and Mass Effect?" To which I reply, "no". Any and all moral issues aside, it'd come off as awkward and uncomfortable, contributing little while wasting effort better spent elsewhere.

As for transgenders, I don't know. I saw a Reddit thread claiming that KL-E-0 is a "tranmisogynistic" depiction, but it was in that section of Reddit where people use the term "cis" unironically (I got there from Google search, I swear).

Also probably worth mentioning that I believe these forums themselves are rated T/PG-13. Also probably worth mentioning that six is an integral part of The Sims series, yet it's never gone past a T-rating, so even when depicted in some degree, it doesn't have to be in the usual M-rated manner that immediately comes to everyone's mind.

First off, there is six in fallout 4, you just don't see it happen.not sure why you would want to tbh, too busy building and adventuring to worry about my PC's intimate relations with his companions.

And how do you know there are not any trans in the fallout universe/fallout 4??

u should add the "i dont care" option, alot of ppl will vote that.

Is there really six in Fallout 4? Do you have proof? Without spoiling much to everyone?

I don't care what people do in their private lives or to their own bodies, but this kinda thing doesn't enhance the game. it draws attention away from the story being told, so unless that story involves Hetero or LBGT as an important factor then it should be left for the player to fill in the blank. I don't need told be told the female NPC i'm engaging in dialog with used to be a man or likes other women unless it relates to the story.

Having nudity or six doesn't necessarily mean driving the six drives of advlts. It's about realism and what will actually happen in the real world in a post apocalyptic Earth destroyed by nuclear bombs and lack of a educational system and schools.

There will be brothels, there will be hokers, and so on.

The Elder Scrolls II: Daggerfall does have nudity the Nymphs.

The Elder Scrolls III: Morrowind has a strip club.

The books in The Elder Scrolls video games generally talk about lots of six.

The Grognarak books in the Fallout video games show like six or whatever.

I'd dare say we share a similar view on the subject.

I've not voted and nor shall I as I currently can't play the game.
In the op you say assume and it's wrong to do this.
I've bought the game for my son and belive he's old enough and mentally at an age to play a game like this.

To add something like six into the mixing pot once the game has gone on sale and has been sold to the public is a no no.

I think you also have to ask yourself what you would personally get out of the game if it was included and be specific in what you require.

Edit. I voted.

I don't really want to get involved in a dispute & let me make this clear that I respect people & their opinions. Ever since Fallout 4 was announced I've seen a lot of chat that pertains to sixuality etc. Call me old fashioned but its just a video game where the main aim is surviving in a post nuclear world. I play video games for that very reason. I don't understand why there has to be so much emphasis on the subject. Next people will be asking why can't we hump super mutants. Just my 2 cents on the matter.

These are not the things I look for in a video game. I'm not saying they have no place in them, but these should not be selling points either.

As for representing social groups in video games, I am not a fan of people lobbying video game developers with social issues. If bethesda wants to represent a group then that should come from THIER creative vision, not YOUR social politics.

No and no, simply because it is time that could be better spent making more quests or more dialogue options or more weapon and settlement mods.

It is just not what the game is about, it is off topic basically. I am not against either of the two, that just isn't what I am looking for when I am playing a game. six is a feature I would ignore if it was in the game, it wouldn't offend me or interest me.

As far as having a diverse cast, do it if it fits the story, don't do it if it doesn't. You shouldn't be forced to include certain types of characters just for the sake of having diversity. I have no problem with transgender people, but I don't think there is any particular need for a transgender character in Fallout.

Oddly enough i felt that when the characters get shot, its sounds oddly like a sixual moan js , i mean the "talent" who gets paid to voice act, doesn't actually get shot or maybe know what getting shot feels like.