I've been thinking about it and looking around, and I can't seem to find any indication of anyone in the Elder Scrolls series being anything but heterosixual or asixual. Does homosixuality, bisixuality, or pansixuality exist in the Elder Scrolls universe? Heterosixuality obviously exists since reproduction is mostly the same as it is in the real world, and there are multiple cases of attraction between a man and a woman in the games, but I've never seen anything but that.

Vivec was polyamorous and his Buoyant Armigers were said to be his homosixual lovers (male OR female as Vivec was a hermaphrodite).

A Hlaalu councilman was openly bisixual and asked either male or female characters to undress for him in Morrowind.

During a Fighters Guild quest in Oblivion you find the journal of the Guildmaster's son, with comments about his homosixual affection for a bard in his military unit.

Ah yes, Crassius Curio. He also asks you to kiss him on another occasion.

Crassius Curio! I completely forgot about him. Thanks.

I can always depend on you guys in the Lore forum <3

I personally find him cute and endearing but Vivec's sixual appetites are what really entertain me. He's said to be the wife of Molag Bal for crying out loud. That's NOT white bread middle American sixuality. That's beautiful, weird and uniquely Elder Scrolls.

I fondly remember Crassius Curio's hilarious sixual mores. I would say bravo Bethesda, although I believe it was a mistake and his dialogie for female PCs was transferred to males.

Well, there's always Vivec, bless him. I don't think the word "boundaries" exists for him.

I remember reading him getting married or something like that to Molag Bal and the two of them showing their affection for one another. The idea of Molag Bal knowing affection is still mind numbing to me.

Curio wasn't really what I'd call cute, it seemed a bit more like sixual harassment to me. Harmless, maybe, but still.


I don't think so. As I recall, he asks female characters to strip "naked" in front of him and asks male characters to give him a kiss. Two entirely different things.

He's just an excited old man. sixual harassment is more serious when it's a young aggressive guy usually. I mean what's the old man gonna do anyway? He'd have a heart attack at his age.

There is a tendency for the paragons of white bread American middle class sixuality to be found emulating the Amigers in crummy restrooms and/or remote parking lots.

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But never mind sixuality, I can't recall love ever being the subject outside of love for the divine and divine lovers. We do have a goddess or two devoted to the concept, and people are living together so it obviously happens, but it's never been a crucial element of the story I believe.

AFAIK that was for not for two different genders, but instead different questlines. He asks you to strip for the Hlaalu initiation, but a kiss to be made hortator. In both instances, I think it's the same dialogue for both male and female characters (although I believe the males also have a bribe option for the hortator questline).

In Morrowind, I remember an Imperial woman having romantic feelings toward a Dunmer bandit that robbed her. I remember in Oblivion, the Heavy Armor trainer was attracted to the Inn Keeper at the inn he stayed at. I also remember the Orc in the Dark Brotherhood sanctuary mentioning he had sixual relations with the Bosmer woman there, even claiming he had her undergarments to prove it.

Those words don't exist. It's a good bet that Tamriel lacks the established social concepts as well.

There is evidence of every manner and combination of sixual behavior, and no reason to belief that Tamriel's mortals function any differently. Leave it to the Altmer to have some perversely inconceivable custom regarding sixuality, however.

I'd bet good money the Altmer are vehemently against homosixuality. For a race that tries to transcend mortality via eugenics, the idea of (physical) love existing for anything other than procreation would be completely alien to them.

To that end, I'd expect that the Altmer probably have customs involving some form of arranged marriage. Any Altmer "unlucky" enough to be born gay would probably be married to a member of the opposite six against his will (though he'd probably admit it's for the good of his people) and would be forced seek out a homosixual relationship the same way we humans were (and in some sad cases, still are): in secret.

I imagine social attitudes of homosixuality in the Summersets to be similar to during the McCarthy-era United States: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Societal_attitudes_toward_homosixuality#McCarthy_era
(Like I said, breeding away mortality would be something quite important to the Aldmeri Dominion, so a "you're with us or you're against us" mentality seems pretty likely)

Of course, this is all speculation, but given the mindset of the (more traditional) Altmer, it's probably not far off, IMO.

I think that's a rather unimaginative view of staunch social conservatism. There's far more scope for ugliness than the obvious.


Really, the Altmer shouldn't care about procreation much at all. They are only fertile when population pressure is low enough.

Whatever they think about homosixuality, it must be, as a rule, surprising and incomprehensible to humans.

six is not required for procreation. It actually is just a strenuous physical activity and a disease vector. I don't think they're into it, at all.

It's a strenuous physical activity only to those who do not enjoy it, and it's only a "disease vector" in the real world, and it has only been that since fairly recently. And to use the Orc in the Dark Brotherhood as an example again, he seems to boast about having intimate physical relations with the Bosmer woman. And Crassius Curio certainly seemed very interested in sixual activity. I'm sure there have been other mentions of six in the series that are in alignment with this line of thought.

Syphilis was around long before Cortez showed up in Mexico and got busy.

I once wrote a bit describing Ocato for a piece that went nowhere, but I seem to have lost it. I know it implied that he had been grown in a chrysalis, like all altmer children, and rated very unfavorably by the aether matrons of that hive (which would be why he found work in Cyrodiil).

Don't forget he made wives of Yokudan kings. Think about that!

EDIT: Mr. Quimper, I thought it was more that he was considered a sellout than anything.

Seems like the wood elves are into it.
"I have the feeling you and I are about to become very close."

But yeah, you have necrophiliacs, beastiality, and rupophilia. Pretty much anything you can think of in the real world probably happens on Nirn too.

Really? I like Vivec even more than before.

Are there any examples of sixual preferences (or activities) among Aedra and Daedra, which aren't related directly to their sphere(s) but rather due to the individual being's own desires and idiosyncrasies? It's hard to imagine an entity like Sanguine being anything other than thoroughly bisixual, but I wonder if other Daedra (or Aedra) would experience love or six(uality) in ways more personal to them.

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So that works.

Hard to be anything -sixual when you wear gender like a hat.

Don't forget the Transvestite Orc proprietor of the 'Missing Pauldron' in Bliss/New Sheoth.

Falanu Hlaalu is a necrophiliac, I think I'd rather have homosixuality than THAT