Yeah or the fact that you could "pimp" you wife out to traders for caps... =p

delete, nevermind

sixuality, violence, slavery...
The game is all about it. Personnally I don't care for sixual content. I focus on my own playstyle, simply ignoring slavery and sixuality in the game, and avoiding violence as much as I can. Too bad the game is very limited when choosing this way, compared to Oblivion or Morrowind but nevermind. It is a good toy and you can imagine different playstyle and stories. It stimulates imagination and creativity. Far better than the TV where you passively absorb sixual or violent content all day long without any mean to change it.

So, if some players like it, it is a very good idea to make it possible for them to play their own way and to enjoy simulated sixuality or virtual crime, as long as they don't identify themselves to the character in game ( seems obvious). If the lone wanderer becomes a pimp or a slaver it is only a character in a game.

I like to see as many options as possible made available. That makes the game play more flexible and leads to more diversity in subsequent play throughs. The sixual content in F3 is very subdued for a mature rated title. I had no issues with any of it. It can be totally avoided, if that is desired, or it can be utilized from a role playing perspective in a very limited nature. But I didn't see anything I felt was over the top or exploitive. If anything there was far less of it than I would really expect to see in an environment like that. I would think people would be far more disturbed by the over the top violence in the game than any of sixual content. Not to mention child slavery, cannibalism, drug use, and alcholism. It's a game full of the dark side of human nature. It's funny to me how, for some people, that's not supposed to include six.

I would just have here as an option. Although I'm admiring companies like bioware for putting six in games because it's such a taboo subject. Plus I don't think anyone should be ashamed of six

I don't care much for it. I can definitely see how raiders and thugs would have prosttutes, but I don't expect anything like romance.

The Saboteur (sort of a GTA4 in WWII Paris, fighting Nazi's) provides a code to unlock nudity. Also, if nudity is unlocked, it can be toggled on/off in the game settings. Not integral to the game experience at all. It's more of an ambiance thing while inside Parisian bistros.

nvde Pack Gives Gamers Choice in The Saboteur
Your parents won't approve of this.
http://ps3.ign.com/articles/105/1052152p1.html

One additional point, the sixuality vs Violence argument. It's great to glorify horrific, bloody violence against every living thing, yet it's horrible to display any form of sixuality between consenting advlts.

i also agree with garrison64, i wuold like the option, but not every person has to go for that option, i would like as many options to the game as possible, do you think love can bloom on the battlefield? we'll find out! rather then have the developer put censorship on, put censorship in the hands of the consumer.

i dont really mind it
i personally think it needs more
for realistic factors

Wait... there was sixuality in Fallout?!?!? I cant think of any at all except the fact that Nova is a prosttute but you dont actually do/see anything, and same with Dukov. They are just supposed prosttutes but nothing actually ever happens. Other than this the game didnt really have any and I was fine with that.

sixuality in video games = boring.

It seems to usually be used as a lure to draw in all the typical desperate, anime loving gaming nerds, like with Bayonetta or w/e that turd of a game is called.

I agree, like with Ninja Gaiden. Its got nothing but pretty much naked chicks all over the covers. That is not what the game is about, but I guess it draws people to buy it... Also Guild Wars always has chicks on their covers (though with plenty of cloths on) obviously trying to appeal to mean to buy it.

My parents died in a freak six accident. No, not really. lol It was a fairly regular six accident. No, my parents are fine. Don't worry. At least I hope they are, who knows what they're getting up to? I should call. Oo, er. What if they're... y'know. I'd better leave it, I'm sure they're fine.

Heh. Not sure what that was all about, sorry if I made anyone uncomfortable, mentioning death, and the fact that my parents... dun dun dun... have six...

... probably...

... who knows? I hope you don't, you voyeur.

I'm not talking about hidden codes dude. That just riles up the censor people, and tarnishes the companies putting stuff out there. I'm talking about options, during the launcher for the game, with warnings as and when you tick certain boxes. (This feature opens advlt content of a sixual nature that some people may find offensive.) This little box over here, now, careful with this one. (Opens up gratuitous violence of a sixual nature. Click at your own peril, you have been warned. Bethesda, its parent company, and any loosely associated affiliate type dudes are not responsible for your clicking this option, and any damage it may cause to your ability to function in a normal social environment. Again, you have been warned.) *click* (Not sure if you caught the last warning, but this stuff is crazy. Seriously, Bethesda, its parent company, and all affiliates highly recommend you DO NOT utilise this option. Seriously.) *click click click click* ^_^ "Come on! Woo!"

You know? So the devs can cover their backs. Companies could even provide a service to unlock content once proof of ID has been given, and then offer codes to the advlt, which has to be put in every time or something. The fact that some devs have to resort to hidden codes is testament to how ridiculous the censorship has become. These governing bodies, meh, who gave them that authority. Are they governed by... who? Exactly? Who decides what? It gets my goat. Democracy my bee-hind. <_<

This game has graphic graphic violence, but sixuality is the thing that turns people off?

I want a separate poll of how many Americans are fine with violence but offended by the sixuality. I would bet Europeans and other folks wouldn't blink an eye at the very tame sixuality in this game.

Nothing compared to seeing BJ's and HJ's in GTA 4.

Yeah, I was playing GTA IV before Fallout 3 (still haven't finished it).

Compared to GTA IV, Fallout 3 has -no six- what so ever and any sixual tension is very limited.
And I don't see what the big deal is, honestly.
I live in Australia and still have free to air TV. Late at night I'm watching TV and I am bombarded with a plethora of adverts telling me to download pormography to my mobile phone. That doesn't make sense. We can have adds that encourage a sixualy explicit nature but we can't have that in our games?

Well, I think it's the fact that games are called just that, games. Therefore, ancient dinosaurs with ideals stuck in the 1950's think that sixuality in games is going to directly influence children, because they are 'games' and children play games. Right?
Wrong. This is digital entertainment.

Check out just about every independent gaming magazine. Those things don't come with ratings, and yet to pay for the mags they're pumped full of porm to your phone ads, text chat six things. Do parents know? Do they care? Are the censors paying attention? <_< Is it odd that the official 360 magazine in the UK is from the same publishers as the independent 360 mags, and yet the official mags don't sport six to your phone ads? -_-


That's hitting the nail on the head, right there. There's this belief that games are for kids, and then there's this glaring contradiction when it comes to slapping ratings on the covers of the games. "M" and "18". These things are for advlts. "But what if kids get their hands on them?" What if... ? Indeed. What if they get their mitts on copies of R rated movies, or watch TV after six PM? Bleh.

The fact that six isn't included in the games isn't what bothers me. Whatever blows your hair back, if it works and it suits the game-world put it in. If we get it out of the way now, perhaps ten years down the line it'll be one of those givens that players barely even notice. It's not a big frackin' deal. lol We're all advlts, eh? *svcks thumb* I mean gawwwwwd. *throws nearby video game and flushes red* It's so unfair! CBBCSF or whatever the hell are like, the worst parents ever! They don't let me see anything!

Edit: Typoifcatorz.

Thank you sir. Someone here with some sense. If you don't want six or violence in your video games, buy a Wii and play some Mario Kart. Maybe that's more your speed.

I am still racking my brain to figure out WHERE the six is in Fallout. I can't honestly think of one instance of sixual innuendo.

There's a reason the box has an M or 18+ (depending on where you live) on the box. This is the same game that allows you to blast people to a pile of gore, ergo it isn't appropriate like that. It is a post-apocalyptic wasteland where people will do anything to survive and wouldn't be the same without the drugs (which at least have consequences), prostitution, or swearing. I didn't find the sixuality too extreame at all, it was more present in Fallout 2 in fact.

From all the reviews I've seen on Bayonetta it is far from being a turd and that has more to do with it having fun game play than her flashing digital boobies which of course she does do. And your Anime loving game nerds provide millions of dollars to the game producers so, yea, they're going to cater to them from time to time.

And done correctly, sixuality in a game can be every bit as fitting as it is in a movie or book. Gaming is just another form of entertainment and although you may not find sixuality entertaining in that format, I can assure you there is a vast audience out there that would find it very appealing.

@ Verisco - I don't know about you but the draw of Fallout to me was this post apocalyptic bad-ass wasteland. That's all I knew, and that it got good reviews. I don't try to learn every bit or detail about a game before it comes out, I prefer to learn about the game by playing it.

It was handled well in The Darkness. My mouth dropped open. The idea of romance, and then this breath-taking violent sequence that removes the object of the game character's affection - his girlfriend - from the game, was pretty epic. Done right, it works. Done wrong, it'd probably make for an epic flop. But it is one of those things that is down to the player. Like turning options on and off, in-game gore, or whatever, there are aspects to the games that a player can miss completely, intentionally or not. You could play Fallout 3 a hundred times and never hit an enemy with a baseball bat. You could play KotOR 1/2, NWN 1/2, Mass Effect... and never experience romance or sixual content.

Our kid mentioned the other day about the first girl in GTA4, whose name I forget. When it came to the crunch in the story (if you played you know what I mean) my brother said he was completely removed from the story. Like, "Who are you, and why should I care?" But Nico was giving it stacks as part of the story. That's the whole thing done badly. When a player's choice impacts the story, if only he chose to do what the devs intended, and not something else entirely. He hated that segment of the game.

If I buy a game that advertises a open wasteland filled with shootouts and incredible enviroments, I'm not going to give a fudge about any of the sixual themes or content in it. Don't care about Bayonetta, I think the theme and over-the-top main character is straight up cheesy and silly. As far as desperate anime loving nerds, yeah they give game developers millions, and irritate those of us with good tastes in games in the process because more games catering to them do come out. There's countless fools who give Lil'Wayne millions of dollars too; it doesn't mean his music is good or that they know what real music should contain.

six in games can sometimes be like buying tickets to see an air show just to find that a portion of the perfomance is women in bikinis jumping up and down.

If you're trying to make a realistic video game, largely set in a real setting (Washington DC) and you're going to have lots of human characters, then sixuality is very much necessary and logical. It would be beyond stupid for Bethesda to pretend that people aren't sixual.

You pay a woman to sleep with you and she actually sleeps... We don't call this six where I live :hubbahubba:

I think there needed to be more of it, we already have slavers, sadistic psychos who torture and kill people and drug users. So yes there should be more of it and not just about six drugs felt pathetic too, addiction only npc one was addicted and he was just craving, real drugs wouldnt do that they would have physical and mental side effects if they dont kill you. Honestly I am confused as to why we can have things like the airport scene in MW2 where violence is acceptible but six is looked at as an abomination, somewhere along the line all cultures [censored] up if its now a point where we can all watch violence and not care but anything sixual drives us insane.