PC sixuality in Fallout 4

Post » Thu Nov 26, 2015 10:03 pm

What? How does that have anything to do with it? All the people have problem related to things other than pre-war anything. Veronica's girlfriend (likely Christine from Dead Money) was basically driven out by Elijah and possibly other people in the BoS. Arcade says nothing about gays are treated. Betsy is an NCR soldier, and they have the Don't Ask, Don't tell thing going on.

That does not really say much about gays are treated in New Vegas.

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Post » Fri Nov 27, 2015 6:35 am

The only places said to have a problem with it are the NCR Army (and even then, apparently just on the frontier. Major Knight says "this isn't the Republic" when asked about why you can't be "friends"), the Brotherhood of Steel (due to them desperately needing more children), and Caesar's Legion (the same faction that enslaves women). In and around New Vegas itself, no-one seems to have a problem with it, judging from all the prosttutes that'll proposition/serve you regardless of gender.

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Post » Thu Nov 26, 2015 8:35 pm

New Vegas shouldn't be the exemple for morality... ;) But even 200 years after the war gays are not the norm and the army and other groups still dislike them. But nobody ingame cares about skin colour. I think it's logic that pre-war the gays were treated worse than ethical groups. The pre-war world wasn't perfect.

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Post » Thu Nov 26, 2015 7:07 pm

Thumbs up to that.

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Setal Vara
 
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Post » Fri Nov 27, 2015 8:52 am

I wanna know something.

Why does it matter?

Maybe I'm wrong, maybe I'm not.

It's not like the player has to sit through the relationship in any meaningful sense. It's killed off at the start.
To be used as a later plot device... Maybe. Probably.

A relationship may imply sixuality, but it is not indicative of it. My uncle is gay, and he was married to a woman for years.

So it isn't the sixuality so much as the pre-established relationship itself that has people concerned.

Which, more or less, has to do with having a pre-determined origin.

And, as you saw fit to bring up previous games, all the fallout main characters have origins. They even have pre-determined endings.

One last thing. The modern Fallouts char Gen have always been themed around something.
Your birth and and growing up in Fallout 3.
Your recovery at Doc Mitchells in New Vegas.
And what it is now.

The relationship at the beginning is just that. Character generation.
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Post » Thu Nov 26, 2015 10:21 pm

Is it possible that the relationship is merely platonic and the baby, rather than being their son, is actually their nephew that they're raising for whatever reason? Did the game specifically say that this was actually the main character's child, or is everyone (including the devs) thinking this because apparently only the child's biological parents are capable of taking care of kids?

Why couldn't it be the grandparents taking care of their grandson? Or the aunt and uncle taking care of their nephew? Or just two kindhearted people who adopted an infant from foster care?

But point is, none of this matters because as soon as we complete our name and SPECIAL, we haul to the vaults and our character is put to sleep for 200 years, with the spouse/partner and kid presumed dead.
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Post » Fri Nov 27, 2015 1:24 am


Fallout 1: You are a vault dweller. You drew the short straw, and have to go into the Wasteland to find a water chip. Nothing said on gender, age, or sixuality, but the sprite is white-ish.
Fallout 2: You are the Vault Dweller's grand child, making you your tribe's Chosen One. Nothing said on gender, age, or sixuality, but it uses the same sprite as for the Vault Dweller.
Fallout Tactics: You are a tribal recruited into the Mid-West Brotherhood. Nothing said on race, gender, age, or sixuality.
Fallout 3: You were raised in a vault. You had a decent childhood. Your father raised you. At age 19, you leave the vault to find your father. Nothing said on race, gender, or sixuality.
Fallout: New Vegas: You are a Courier. You have been shot while delivering a valuable package. You give some vague answers to an inkblot test. Nothing said on race, gender, age, or sixuality.
Fallout 4: You are married to your husband/wife, whom you seem to love, have a son named Shaun, and have your own home, car, and robot servant. This strongly implies that you are heterosixual, and at least in your mid-20s. Nothing said on race or gender.
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Post » Fri Nov 27, 2015 12:27 am

if you want to be gay... be so in real life, I'm not a fan of six in games of any kind.

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Post » Fri Nov 27, 2015 12:52 am

I'd like for the kid to have a major role in the game, and that it's acutally our own kid from a heterosixual marriage, just so I can see people's jimmies rustled.

Or maybe our PC will reference his wife and how much he loves her throught the game. Lmao.

That's it. Inspired by this thread, my character will be a homophobe. I'm using my imagination.

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Post » Thu Nov 26, 2015 10:20 pm

It says nothing about your sixuallity if you but it in a context of a anti-gay society like in the 50s. There were many gays who were married and had children just to fit into the society. And they still could love their wife in a non sixual way.

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Post » Fri Nov 27, 2015 5:35 am

Like the 1950s, except mixed race marriages are completely fine? Why would they stop being racist, but still be homophobic?
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Post » Fri Nov 27, 2015 6:30 am

Racism and homophobic have not much to do with each opther. There are many people who are racist but not homophob and vice versa.

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Leonie Connor
 
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Post » Fri Nov 27, 2015 9:52 am

From memory, wasn't there same-six relationships in Fallout 3, and New Vegas?

(Insert joke about being married 101: It's always the same six)

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Post » Thu Nov 26, 2015 11:02 pm

Ignores most of what I wrote. Didn't bother to answer my question.

Why does it matter?
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Post » Thu Nov 26, 2015 9:37 pm

I believe bigotry is the word you're looking for. Let me list out the popular ones:

RACISM- Hating someone due to their race.

HOMOPHOBIC- Hating someone due to their sixual orientation.

sixISM- Hating someone due to their gender.

XENOPHOBIC- Hating someone due to what nation they come from.

One doesn't always mean the whole thing. A sixist can be absolutely fine with LBGT+ people and people not the sixist's own race or countrymen. Racism itself has its own 'sweet' level of bigotry. You can hate one race and yet have absolutely no problem with the other races. Same with xenophobia.

Humans are kind of complicated like that.
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Alexander Lee
 
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Post » Fri Nov 27, 2015 8:02 am

I'm not buying this game unless Mr. Handy is wearing a rubber glove and holding a bottle of lotion.

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Post » Fri Nov 27, 2015 6:57 am

That brings to mind something from Futurama:

http://futurama.wikia.com/wiki/Robosixuality

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Post » Fri Nov 27, 2015 10:00 am

What if the PC does not have sixual preference whatsoever. He/She just is part of goverment regulated program that demands healthy people to make sure there is young americans popping to world.

I assume that Vault-Project and such had to make sure population will survive. No matter what kind of disaster happens.

I also believe goverment gave some bonuses to "couples" that lived under same roof and managed to make healthy kids.

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Post » Fri Nov 27, 2015 3:44 am

I was thinking more of this actually: http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Fisto

But ... since there are human looking androids .... hmm ...

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Roddy
 
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Post » Fri Nov 27, 2015 1:09 am

I really hate that this kind of thing has crept into videogames.

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Post » Fri Nov 27, 2015 6:37 am

My original post was simply asking a question about sixuality in the game and it is amazing how defensive people have gotten about this...

One can and should be able to discuss sixuality options like every other aspect of the game. It would be interesting if the game does actually offer you the choice to have homosixual relationships even though you start off in a heterosixual family. It would be great to have a game deal with repressed sixuality in a 1950's world. It may not be an area of the game you are interested in that is fine... I think it would add another dimension. I probably won't spend that much time on crafting.

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Post » Thu Nov 26, 2015 10:53 pm

Honestly I thought about this while watching the presentation. Now I'm bisixual with a strong male preference, but I didn't mind the whole being married to a woman and having a child thing, because back then, that was the norm and being gay was frowned upon. Now, I don't want hot steamy gay six or anything like that in the game, honsetly I hate six in games I play, it distracts me from the game unless it's done right like in Mass Effect.

I'm hoping there will still be the options to be gay and bi, and that you can come out to characters in the game and such, and hopefully have some male hokers somewhere in there as eye candy, but honestly, if none of that is in it, I'm fine with it. This game is going to be amazing, and little nit-picks about sixuality will just distract us from what Bethesda has given us. If they add a gay and bisixual perk in, good on them! Honestly I really respected them for it in Fallout New Vegas, and having full on gay characters like Arcade Ganon. :D

Besides, if you don't remember, in the presenation the main character was seen wearing a dress. So cross-dressing comfirmed? xD

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Post » Fri Nov 27, 2015 12:28 am

I love how people are focusing so hard on whether they want the front hole or the back hole. It's frickin Fallout - focus on the [censored] power armour, those badass deathclaws and the scary ghouls. You should be focusing on your sixuality irl - not in something that will only, at bare minimum, effect 2 or 3 lines of dialog (If you're lucky, you may even hear the moans as you split a guy open whilst staring at a black screen).

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Susan Elizabeth
 
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Post » Thu Nov 26, 2015 8:43 pm

No I'm straight but let me tell you something:-It's called Roleplaying you know when playing a RPG people sometimes do that.....

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Post » Thu Nov 26, 2015 7:02 pm

That's offensive.
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