PC sixuality in Fallout 4

Post » Thu Nov 26, 2015 9:08 pm

Guess I'll have to wait a little longer before I decide whether to buy the game or not, depending on how they handle the marriage and kid thing.

As for those of you who can't understand why a set character sixuality matters to some of us, this is why:

Almost every game, book, movie, song etcetera out there is about a straight character. It's not a question of whether or not the player character is straight in this game specifically, it's more like "oh no, not AGAIN!!!"

Imagine if the opposite was true. I think a lot of people (myself included) would have a huge problem with almost every game, book, movie, song etc. featuring a gay character. And if a game series that were known for allowing freedom in that regard suddenly featured Gay Main Character no. 264852799136567187658769837516235876, all of those people (myself included) would be rightfully upset.

And that aside, there's also the baby. One might be straight and not want a baby. That's in fact pretty common. And that aside, there's also the fact that your character has a preset husband or wife. Not every straight person is attracted to the same type of appearances.

There's simply too much restrictions on core parts of the player character's personality. Making it less our own character, and more someone else's.

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Celestine Stardust
 
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Post » Fri Nov 27, 2015 5:30 am

This part isn't true. You can customize them both and the person you leave the creation screen with is the one you're going to play. If you thought spending 5 hours sculpting your character was too much, imagine doing it twice. :P Too bad the spouse probably dies.
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Jack Walker
 
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Post » Fri Nov 27, 2015 5:28 am

It's called being overly privileged, when you must insist that every game be designed you meet your very specific desires.

How do some of you even play Checkers? "King Me! Why does it have to be called a King Me! Why can't it be Queen Me!, or Queen that used to be a King Me! I hate this game!"

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Shelby McDonald
 
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Post » Fri Nov 27, 2015 12:17 am

Shoehorning in a gay relationship to appeal to a small minority of people does a disservice to gay people, who probably wouldn't care otherwise.
In my observations gay relationships are very similar to straight relationships.
Treating it as something special or significant in the way you did is called fetish-ising and it's creepy.

Plot, story, those are important too, you know.


My best, and closest, friend is gay, and he wouldn't appreciate the spotlight and attention people here have been giving his sixual orientation.
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David John Hunter
 
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Post » Thu Nov 26, 2015 8:16 pm

They never said every game. Besides Fallout is suppose to about giving us freedom right? But why limit that for what I'm sure will be nothing more than one of the two game old story cliches we seen about a trillion times.

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Rhiannon Jones
 
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Post » Fri Nov 27, 2015 4:33 am

Oh well. I'll have to be grateful for that I suppose. :bowdown:

I can decide what my opposite gender spouse and mother/father of my child will look like. Yay roleplaying freedom!

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Tiff Clark
 
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Post » Thu Nov 26, 2015 8:23 pm

Shoehorning in a gay relationship to appeal to a small minority of people does a disservice to gay people, who probably wouldn't care otherwise.
In my observations gay relationships are very similar to straight relationships.
Treating it as something special or significant in the way you did is called fetish-ising and it's creepy.

Eh, what? :bonk:

I think you need to re-read my post, because your reply looks like a huge misunderstanding. There's no logic link whatsoever between what I said, and what you replied.

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Post » Fri Nov 27, 2015 1:31 am

Are you sure his name is Mr Handy and not Mr. F.I.S.T.O.

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Post » Fri Nov 27, 2015 6:22 am

Just out of curiosity, do you see the irony in this statement?

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Dorian Cozens
 
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Post » Thu Nov 26, 2015 7:55 pm

No Irony to be found.

Telling someone to stop thinking their opinion is the only one that matters.

No irony there brosef.

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Crystal Clarke
 
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Post » Fri Nov 27, 2015 2:11 am

Hmmm.

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Chantel Hopkin
 
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Post » Thu Nov 26, 2015 8:43 pm

marriage and romance is dumb and has no place in video games like fallout and i hope they dont carry that crap over from skyrim because that was just lame ass awkward [censored] and utterly pointless

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Post » Fri Nov 27, 2015 4:04 am

If this wasn't supposed to take place in the 50's and if the story fit the time/place I would not care what sixuality the beginning was. However, I would find it unlikely to see an open gay marriage at that time in the average american household.

It's basically the tutorial part, once you wake up be whatever you want. The world is destroyed as your character once knew it. Maybe you were hiding who you really were prior, but no need to now. You can be gay, you can be a psychopath, you can be a hero, do what you want. Just know, if you are gay, it shouldn't define who you are. You still can be a hero, or a monster. Being gay is like being straight-it's just who you prefer to be intimate with.

Now if the complaint is that we know any background on our character that is a separate issue. However it's only the tutorial part of the game so I don't have an issue with it, and we've always had some background when playing a Bethesda game.

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Post » Thu Nov 26, 2015 9:52 pm

No sense crying over it any more, what is done is done. You're married or were married. Now 200 years later you are single. Go out and enjoy yourself in finding your preferred mate in the Wasteland.

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Post » Fri Nov 27, 2015 2:09 am


This is why "Gamergate" happened....the SJWs want to force their neurosis on us all, even if it kills the industry.
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Post » Fri Nov 27, 2015 5:04 am

/Sigh

Dragon Age: Inquisition forums is this way--------->

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Post » Fri Nov 27, 2015 2:04 am

As I said in another topic

You know, being gay myself, I was one of the ones who felt strongly about this. Perhaps we should just trust Bethesda about this.

Howard said, "This is an enormous dynamic world where you can create any kind of character you want, go where you want, and do what you want." Maybe we should just trust what he says is true.

There is no reason for him to lie to us or to exclude us from the game.

I realize I was one of the ones fighting tooth and nail for this but I guess I will drop it until I actually play the game.

As I mentioned I am sure Bethesda will have everyone covered in some form or another. If not and I am indeed straight, I will believe Bethesda will have a compelling reason for doing so.

If that is the case I will play the mother who has lost everything, trying to survive the wasteland and the grief of losing her family. That sounds just as interesting of a story as me being in the game
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Post » Fri Nov 27, 2015 6:09 am

I don't think Bethesda quite knew they'd get this sort of reaction from the decision of representing the PC in a relationship with the opposite six from the get-go and as a plot point.

In a game by a company that made its name from player freedom, I don't think it's asking much at all to decide my player character's sixuality. And to dismiss this as just "uppity SJWs infesting another game" is ignorant and selfish.
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Post » Fri Nov 27, 2015 12:21 am

Well, Gamergate became a clustereff of what it was. It was ORIGINALLY about corruption in video game journalism, but either trolls or journalists trying to distract from the issue turned it into a the issue of gender and the rest devolved from there. Another case of good intentions gone horribly horribly awry.

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Post » Fri Nov 27, 2015 6:54 am

Right? Also there seems to be substantially more people whinging about SJWs than actual SJWs.

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Post » Thu Nov 26, 2015 8:33 pm

Discussion on this singulary topic has reached high enough traffic that Bethesda may actually comment before the game releases. Or not, they could ignore it easily.
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Post » Fri Nov 27, 2015 12:31 am

Ugh, so sick of gamers and their "give me what I want!" Attitude. Just let the developers make a game, stop forcing them to put equality into a game just because. If they wanted to make a gay character then fine, great! As a straight person I would be fine with that and not question Bethesda. But no they decided to go with a straight protagonist, and that's fine. If they add options for gay people then kudos to Bethesda, if they don't then quit complaining it literally won't matter in Fallout.
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Post » Thu Nov 26, 2015 10:55 pm

How do we know for sure that in the beginning we can't make our couple as two men or two women? We don't but even if we can't, we can be whatever we want once we come to 200 years later.

I mean a two hundred years is enough time to change anyone.

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Post » Fri Nov 27, 2015 8:17 am

From E3 gameplay. :shrug:

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Post » Fri Nov 27, 2015 5:28 am

I don't understand why you guys think this is just about SJWs or some kind of "gay agenda". It's about player freedom, you know that thing Bethesda was talking about during E3. Instead of just saying "derp SJWs nothing to see here derp" address how this clearly go against the player freedom that we are suppose to like in these games. Also please save me the "if the main was gay only I wouldn't complain" crap okay. Any of you remember The Last of Us DLC crap storm over the main character being gay? A lot of people was saying "I don't want it force on me", " THE GAY AGENDA NOOOOO!",ect.

I'm not gay and have no interest and making gay character but that doesn't mean I can't see why it shouldn't be a option.

Edit-Oh and the "It's the 50s" argument. So does that mean we shouldn't be able to make a interracial couple then? And if I'm a black guy dating a white woman we are looked at funny and treated bad(if not beaten up or killed)? I mean it's the 50s right?

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